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[NKKKK]

Morrigan's baby will help us.

[Ceridraen]

Or possibly even BE us... Wasn't BG like that, at some point? You're a half god. I mean, Morrigan could give birth to 5 at once. Or more. (then get her own reality show, & inspire the world to turn off their tvs forever more)

[IanPolaris]

Ceridraen wrote...

Or possibly even BE us... Wasn't BG like that, at some point? You're a half god. I mean, Morrigan could give birth to 5 at once. Or more. (then get her own reality show, & inspire the world to turn off their tvs forever more)

BG was like that the entire way.  Bhaal sensed that he was going to die in the time of troubles and if he did nothing, he would be slain forever.  So he gave his most trusted priestess a way of ressurecting him after he 'died' by putting the various parts of his soul or essence back together.  He HID his soul/essence by procreating (and probably raping) women from all across Faerun of all different races.

Not all his spawn (and you are called a Bhaalspawn) had the same amount of essence, but you (the PC) had more than most but were unusually strong willed and was able to control it as well.

Sorry to digresss but I could easily see Morrigan's baby being our next PC with the sole quibble that it would have to be human or half-dwarf.

-Polaris

[Ceridraen]

And as it's written, a half-elf will look human, so that's not fun. I do remember BG, vaguely - and I can see them doing something like this with Morrigan's baby. Not sure how I feel about it, but I'd rather it be that than her baby be the main villain.

[SilverKnight158]

It doesn't seem like a good idea to let the Architect live...Or at least that's my thought

Modifié par SilverKnight158, 30 mars 2010 - 04:03 .

[tmelange]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

The Mother attacked the surface, Amaranthine in specific, for a very specific reason. She wanted to prevent "the father" from getting the Wardens and wanted to provoke the Wardens into killing her "The mother knows your ways, you won't let her live after what she's done", because she thought death was a release.

Her reasons for attacking the surface have nothing to do with survival (iindeed, she wanted to die) and it, being insane, is an anomaly. Her actions cannot be considered a leading indicator vis a vis what awakened and non-isane darkspawn would do.
 

Weren't you the one who took the position about 20 pages ago that the Qunari merchant should be indicative of an existing immunity to the taint even though he is also an anomaly? 

[Vicious]

Morrigan's baby is certainly a possibility for future PC or party member, especially if as reports specifically say Dragon Age 2 is NOT Dragon Age Origins: 2.


We all know in Bioware RPGs you have to either be a member of an elite order or have a special bloodline.
Baldur's Gate: Bhaalspawn
KOTOR: Jedi Knight
Jade Empire: Spirit Monks
Mass Effect: Spectre/Cerberus
DAO: Grey Warden
NWN: none initially, but in the expansions you come from some fancy school of adventurers.



Having the soul of an ancient dragon would certainly qualify. And also help fulfill ALL of Bioware's cliche's as evidenced on this chart.
http://gza.gameriot...._1257581825.png



Only caveat is that yes, you are basically forced to human/half-dwarf, but Bioware could easily work around it, [say, due to the magical nature of the ritual the unborn child takes the race of whomever killed the Archdemon... ugh sounds terrible but there ya go] And even if you WERE forced into being a human again... well it's nothing new. Damn near every RPG nowadays forces you into a prewritten main character.

Modifié par Vicious, 30 mars 2010 - 04:33 .

[Layn]

i don't remember about the lost, the first definitely didn't show himself to be insane. He came with the mission to trap you in the fade. did his job. How would you react if you found out that someone you call mother and trusted completely knew you would get trapped in the fade? Look at Oghren's reaction at being in the fade!



anyway, i wish there was an MMO with one time events, where the first group to get there and do it, basically decides over the fate of the world (to smaller or bigger degree). It'd be so awesome if threads like this would actually matter. Of course there would have to a very heavy death penalty, so players don't make a choice lightheartedly

[Efesell]

Why would anyone ever expect the next game to be called Origins 2

[EmperorSahlertz]

Efesell wrote...

Why would anyone ever expect the next game to be called Origins 2

Some people are of the belief that Origins are the most important part of the game, and surely will be icluded in the next game.

[Popeandy]

I spared the architect seemed to be the "good" ending. The messenger / architect kept to their words despite being Darkspawn and didn't seem to do any wrong in the epilogue. But who knows maybe just better off killing every Darkspawn talking or no. It would take a lot to redeem Bioware from this fail expansion though...

[CybAnt1]

Some people are of the belief that Origins are the most important part of the game, and surely will be icluded in the next game.

There's certainly an opportunity if they are going to introduce new playable races or backgrounds.

Imagine a Qunari origin story.

Or a Human Commoner origin story (which seems to be missing). 

And how about a rather "special" origin story ... with you growing up as Morrigan's child? (I'm convinced she's determined to be a better mommie than Flemeth.) 

Indeed, I can see a very interesting "passing the torch" type moment, where "our" Warden-Commander plays the "Duncan" (so to speak) recruiting the newbie into the GWs. 

I don't know if future chars must necessarily be GWs, but up until this point the GW order and the Darkspawn have been so central to the story it's hard to decide where else they would go; unless they're willing to come up with some other group and set of villains that will be as central as these two elements have been. 

Modifié par CybAnt1, 30 mars 2010 - 02:53 .

[EmperorSahlertz]

The Human Commoner isn't as much "missing" as it was cut for lack of intrigue. Sad though, would have caused the whole Redcliffe incident to be a touch more personal (The human commoner Origin was planned to be a farmer from Redcliffe).

[SilverKnight158]

Modifié par SilverKnight158, 30 mars 2010 - 03:38 .

[roundcrow]

CybAnt1 wrote...

Indeed, I can see a very interesting "passing the torch" type moment, where "our" Warden-Commander plays the "Duncan" (so to speak) recruiting the newbie into the GWs. 

I like this idea, or maybe, though I don't know about the typical guest list for a Calling feast, your old character could be entering the Deep Roads?  Easy enough to swap in Generic Grey Warden if you don't import.  

[Volourn]

"NWN: none initially, but in the expansions you come from some fancy school of adventurers."



'Fancy' use small house with exactly one master in the middle of igloo land? L0L

[Thor Rand Al]

I like the idea of you being the Old God child/adult. How you're actions can affect the future. Mom wants you to go 1 way but another side of you wants to do another way (depending on who the father is and how they were played in Origins.) Your actions as the Origins pc could determine the child as they get older. It would be hard to do if Alistairs the father but you still could have mom's very first best friend if you played female or if you played male and gave Morrigan the baby yourself.

[keesio74]

Who else besides Justice approves of you killing the Architect? I know Velanna, Howe and (surprisingly) Oghren disapprove. I would hope Sigrun would approve since she is a Legion member (whose job is to kill darkspawn)

[IanPolaris]

keesio74 wrote...

Who else besides Justice approves of you killing the Architect? I know Velanna, Howe and (surprisingly) Oghren disapprove. I would hope Sigrun would approve since she is a Legion member (whose job is to kill darkspawn)

Sigrun violently disapproves of you letting the Architect live and calls it, "Reeks of Stupid" and in fact will fight you and the rest of your party unless you pass a persuade check (and I think her reasoning is extremely sound on this too).  I also think that Anders things that the Arichitect can not be trusted.

-Polaris

[Basher of Glory]

After finishing my second game, I'm still uncertain.
Initially the Architect sounds reasonable and intelligent. At least he seems not to be insane like most of the darkspawn.
OTOH he missed to make himself known as something new, something which has altered to the better, a "new race", which might be a future ally. No, he started a war, slaughtered lots of people and made unjustifiable experiments.
He tried to justify this with words like "misunderstanding" and "...yet I don't understand your kind..." and "...I had to do what has to be done...for a better future"
This reminded my of some persons we had in the younger history and the poor tries to justify their crimes agains humanity. IMO not the way to introduce oneself as a future "friend".

The Architect's argumentation delivered a small insight in his ideas about a "new race of counscious beings", who start to learn about the other races and their ways to live. Yet, they are still "babies", not capable to do much more than that, what instict and reflexes allow. But they might develop quickly and be a valuable ally against the "soulless" darkspawn, thus a true hope to end the threat of the blights once and forever.

Well, they "might". What, if not?

I always play the good guy, heck, I'm totally unable to play an "evil" character. But even my good wardens had either a bad feeling about letting him alive or a good feeling after he was dead.

Modifié par Baher of Glory, 31 mars 2010 - 05:13 .

[prsquared]

the architect looks like duncan without a beard to me

[Thor Rand Al]

keesio74 wrote...

Who else besides Justice approves of you killing the Architect? I know Velanna, Howe and (surprisingly) Oghren disapprove. I would hope Sigrun would approve since she is a Legion member (whose job is to kill darkspawn)

You lose approval if you kill the Architect from Nathaniel, Oghren, and Velenna and the other 1's approve if you kill him but I've yet done Sigrun but from what I've read so far she's for you killing the Architect.  But Ander's and Justice def want him gone.

[Thor Rand Al]

vilnii wrote...
I felt the need to quote myself to get this confusion back on track.

There can be no negotiating with Darkspawn! 

Ok I'll oblige you



All I have to say is for anyone that thinks the Architect deserves to live, replay RTO and see Cailan's body hanging like that and then tell me the Architect deserves to live.  Especially after finding out he's the cause for the ArchDemon waking up and the Blight in the first place.


I just got done replaying RTO and and after seeing Cailan's body up there ya the Architect deserves no mercy.

[Meltemph]

"Sigrun violently disapproves"



Can't blame the girl either, seeing as the Architect could royally **** over the Dwarfs and the retaking of their territory.