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[TheCrakFox]

Why can't this be included with the Kasumi DLC? There's no way I'm paying for them, hell, even if they were free I'd only use the Garrus one.

[mcsupersport]

TheTrooper1138 wrote...

95Headhunter wrote...

Capitalism's a beautiful thing.

No, it's not.

Yes it is, because you don't have government saying they are taking your money and giving it to you anyway, when you really don't want it. 

I don't have a problem with them charging for DLC, but 3 skins for 2.00 just seems silly, and worthless.  The ones shown are not great, good, but not great, so no I would no pay for just those 3 skins.  They should have added them to another DLC, and upped the price some, unless it is for all companions, and then I might consider it.  If these stupid DLCs don't make a profit then EA/Biowar will have to change their stratagy on how they make their money, which hopefully means better DLC and not this bs fluff, which is half done.

[OverlordNexas]

Better they charge for things that are purely aesthetic instead of things of actual value such as weapons or armor. This is for people who want it, not something that they need.



I'll be buying it because I have a few spare MS points laying around and I think Garrus's fixed armor looks sweet.

[Ethereal24]

it should be free as stated on the mass effect website.



"Included in each copy of Mass Effect 2, for both PC (digital and box) and X360, there is a Cerberus Network card with a unique single-use code. Login to the Cerberus Network in Mass Effect 2 and register your code to enlist! Once you are a member, Cerberus Network content is available to you at no extra charge."



from the main website at:- http://masseffect.bi.../info/cerberus/

[TheTrooper1138]

mcsupersport wrote...

Yes it is, because you don't have government saying they are taking your money and giving it to you anyway, when you really don't want it. 

lol, what the hell are you talking about? Really your views on politics are pretty shortsighted... there's more than 2 systems, you know... :innocent:

[Dablab]

Nope from what I see Jack and Thane have been watching too much CSI:Miami, and Garrus just fixed his armor.

EDIT:I won't get it.

Modifié par Dablab, 20 mars 2010 - 12:52 .

[Garlador]

I wouldn't mind $2 for skins for EVERYONE... but for just three characters? And Garrus being the only one I'm interested in? Sorry, Garrus, buddy, but I don't like you THAT much.

I'll pass on this one. Simply not something I'm interested in. Too pricey and too narrow. If it had been cheaper or there was more outfits (like Tali...), I might consider it.

[95Headhunter]

TheTrooper1138 wrote...

95Headhunter wrote...

TheTrooper1138 wrote...

95Headhunter wrote...

Capitalism's a beautiful thing.

No, it's not.

Let me put it this way. Without it, that game that's the whole focus of these forums probably wouldn't exist.

ah, the old "without Capitalism there's no art" argument... I don't think you want me to go into that one... just look at how long Capitalism is around and at how long art has been around... sorry, but your argument is pure bullcrap, nothing more.

Wow. That's a little presumptive don't you think? Given that I haven't even given an argument, you're not really in any position to call anything bullcrap, are you?

I'm not talking about art here. At all. I'm not sure I'd even classify video games as art. Regardless, some of the best art is free.

I'm talking about the business behind the game. I'm talking about business models, company trading rights and mostly the freedom of the capitalist economy that allows businesses to flourish. Just like Hollywood, the video game industry flourishes under capitalism because its the only system (in practice at least) that affords a company the money to invest in such a project, and its consumer base the disposable income to be able to purchase that end product.

I'm not going to get into this argument anymore. I'm merely suggesting that the video game industry is a classic example of a capitalist product. I'm not saying there isn't a better way, and I'm not saying that a Communist society (for example) couldn't produce a great game - even if I'm yet to see proof of that. Of course, there is that whole tetris issue...

[TheTrooper1138]

Ethereal24 wrote...

it should be free as stated on the mass effect website.

"Included in each copy of Mass Effect 2, for both PC (digital and box) and X360, there is a Cerberus Network card with a unique single-use code. Login to the Cerberus Network in Mass Effect 2 and register your code to enlist! Once you are a member, Cerberus Network content is available to you at no extra charge."

from the main website at:- http://masseffect.bi.../info/cerberus/

so who said, this is Cerberus content? Cerberus content is what the declare it, nothing else...

[Garlador]

Ethereal24 wrote...

it should be free as stated on the mass effect website.

"Included in each copy of Mass Effect 2, for both PC (digital and box) and X360, there is a Cerberus Network card with a unique single-use code. Login to the Cerberus Network in Mass Effect 2 and register your code to enlist! Once you are a member, Cerberus Network content is available to you at no extra charge."

from the main website at:- http://masseffect.bi.../info/cerberus/

Except it appears this isn't "Cerberus Network" content.

[Chuvvy]

GnusmasTHX wrote...

Part of a larger pack.

This is bordering on horse armor.

Dude,this is worse than horse armor atleast horse armor gave you a bonus and it cost 1 dallor more when it first came out. I think they raised the price as a joke last summer.

[Schroing]

Of course it should be free. I know a variety of people who could do that in photoshop, and mods that do similar things already exist.

Besides which, they're utterly hideous. I wouldn't get them if they were free.

[Empiro]

Free PC mods FTW.

[Ethereal24]

ahhh okies my bad sorry lol.
ahwell. thats my 2cence out the window lol


Edit:- just looked back at website sorry it does cost ur right my bad. 160 ms point.... i think not....

Modifié par Ethereal24, 20 mars 2010 - 12:50 .

[TheTrooper1138]

95Headhunter wrote...

TheTrooper1138 wrote...

95Headhunter wrote...

TheTrooper1138 wrote...

95Headhunter wrote...

Capitalism's a beautiful thing.

No, it's not.

Let me put it this way. Without it, that game that's the whole focus of these forums probably wouldn't exist.

ah, the old "without Capitalism there's no art" argument... I don't think you want me to go into that one... just look at how long Capitalism is around and at how long art has been around... sorry, but your argument is pure bullcrap, nothing more.

1) Wow. That's a little presumptive don't you think? Given that I haven't even given an argument, you're not really in any position to call anything bullcrap, are you?

2) I'm not talking about art here. At all. I'm not sure I'd even classify video games as art. Regardless, some of the best art is free. 

1) Yes you did, indirectly. And who knows what might be, if we wouldn't be living in Capitalist societies. You can't know that, so any assumption on that point is *bullcrap*

2) Depends on the game. I wouldn't call CoD art for example, since it's just mainstream fast-food gaming, but more sophisticated games are definitely art.

[Garlador]

Schroing wrote...

Of course it should be free. I know a variety of people who could do that in photoshop, and mods that do similar things already exist.
Besides which, they're utterly hideous. I wouldn't get them if they were free.

Sorry, but I do like the fact that you said "They're hideous... but it should be free!" That just implies that you WOULD download it if it was free content but won't because it's premium.

As much as I would like Garrus's armor, it's not something I need and the content is entirely optional. I can live without Inferno Armor, I betcha I can live without Jack's shades. And Inferno Armor at least has stats, unlike these.

[Vizkos]

I'd prefer a "let you put whatever armor on them you want" pack.

[mcsupersport]

[quote]TheTrooper1138 wrote...

[quote]95Headhunter wrote...

[quote]TheTrooper1138 wrote...



ah, the old "without Capitalism there's no art" argument... I don't think you want me to go into that one... just look at how long Capitalism is around and at how long art has been around... sorry, but your argument is pure bullcrap, nothing more.
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Mass Effect is a game, put out by developers to make money by satisfying a desire of a populance. 

You can't eat art, you can't drink art, unless you are working with food.  Art doesn't give you a place to live, or protection from the elements, unless it is clothing or a building.  But art can enrich you life and soul, while you shiver, starve and die.  The only way for Art to continually exist is if all the basics are handled by someone, allowing free time for art to be created.  In civilized areas, art can be traded, or sold to meet the demands of living.  You sell art for food, clothes, money, or a place to live.  This is capitalism, get over it.  All the way back to Michaelangelo, you will find artist selling their wares and skills to live.  Whether it is to noblemen, church, or state, it is all selling of skill.    It is the same thing as a carpenter, lawyer, doctor, or plumber selling their ability to feed, house, and cloth their family/selves.

Modifié par mcsupersport, 20 mars 2010 - 12:58 .

[Schroing]

Garlador wrote...

Schroing wrote...

Of course it should be free. I know a variety of people who could do that in photoshop, and mods that do similar things already exist.
Besides which, they're utterly hideous. I wouldn't get them if they were free.

Sorry, but I do like the fact that you said "They're hideous... but it should be free!" That just implies that you WOULD download it if it was free content but won't because it's premium.

...I'm sorry, but I...just don't understand your logic here.

[Ecael]

monkeycamoran wrote...

Ecael wrote...
As for $2.00... I'd get more use out of an ice cream sandwich. I'd wait until it eventually becomes free (I hope).

That sounds good about now.

Well, it's either new textures for 3 characters or:

[Garlador]

Schroing wrote...

Garlador wrote...

Schroing wrote...

Of course it should be free. I know a variety of people who could do that in photoshop, and mods that do similar things already exist.
Besides which, they're utterly hideous. I wouldn't get them if they were free.

Sorry, but I do like the fact that you said "They're hideous... but it should be free!" That just implies that you WOULD download it if it was free content but won't because it's premium.

...I'm sorry, but I...just don't understand your logic here.

I misread. My mistake.

[Chuvvy]

95Headhunter wrote...
Capitalism's a beautiful thing.

Implying the United States is a capitalist nation.Capitalist Economys have no government ovesite the free market controlls everything.The U.S. and most "Capitalist Nations" are a Managed Economy. They have more freedom than a Socialist or a Comunist Economy would but less than a Capitalist does.

Oversite isn't the right word it's not like they could make everything insainly expensive and no one could do anything about it but whatever.

[Garlador]

Slidell505 wrote...

95Headhunter wrote...
Capitalism's a beautiful thing.

Implying the United States is a capitalist nation.Capitalist Economys have no government ovesite the free market controlls everything.The U.S. and most "Capitalist Nations" are a Managed Economy. They have more freedom than a Socialist or a Comunist Economy would but less than a Capitalist does.

Oversite isn't the right word it's not like they could make everything insainly expensive and no one could do anything about it but whatever.

Let's save the discussion on "Capitalism" for the General Off-Topic rant threads and talk about the costume pack here instead.

[eternalnightmare13]

I would pay 2$ for three pieces of casual wear for my Sheps. I would pay for suits of armor and helmets for thane, jack, miranda, jacob, and samara instead of their ridiculous half face respirators they wear on some missions. Even if it were included in the vanilla game I wouldn't use these outfits, except for Garrus'. If I have a few points left after getting Kasumi I might get it. Then again, I may not.

[TheTrooper1138]

mcsupersport wrote...

TheTrooper1138 wrote...

ah, the old "without Capitalism there's no art" argument... I don't think you want me to go into that one... just look at how long Capitalism is around and at how long art has been around... sorry, but your argument is pure bullcrap, nothing more.

Mass Effect is a game, put out by developers to make money by satisfying a desire of a populance. 

You can't eat art, you can't drink art, unless you are working with food.  Art doesn't give you a place to live, or protection from the elements, unless it is clothing or a building.  But art can enrich you life and soul, while you shiver, starve and die.  The only way for Art to continually exist is if all the basics are handled by someone, allowing free time for art to be created.  In civilized areas, art can be traded, or sold to meet the demands of living.  You sell art for food, clothes, money, or a place to live.  This is capitalism, get over it.  All the way back to Michaelangelo, you will find artist selling their wares and skills to live.  Whether it is to noblemen, church, or state, it is all selling of skill.    It is the same thing as a carpenter, lawyer, doctor, or plumber selling their ability to feed, house, and cloth their family/selves.

trade=/=capitalism. Trade has been around since the dawn of man, Capitalism is an economic system, in which capital is much more important (or lets say "effective") than actual labour. It's an unjust system and should be abolished, simple as that. 
But of course, if you can't even seperate basic prinicples of human society life from an economic system I guess it's pointless to discuss this with you...