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[CrazyShuba]

Okay, I can understand making us pay for Kasumi, but paying for THREE OUTFITS?

That's ridiculous.

You can use the whole "they need to make a profit" BS, but all it is is adding glasses to two of them, reskinning Garrus' old armor, and changing colors around.

If it was for all the characters, and they actually looked good, then I'd consider buying it.

[TheTrooper1138]

Ecael wrote...

TheTrooper1138 wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...

Ray Joel Oh wrote...

I'll pay for it just to support more DLC.

That is kinda what I am leaning towards.  If buying this will tell them that the fans want more DLC, then I might do it.

that's exactly the wrong kind of thinking, because that would rather show them that we are willing to pay for any piece of garbage they're throwing at us... I will buy real DLC for reasonable amounts of money.. but this... no...

I agree. We should be buying DLC that is useful and worth buying (although there have been arguments about Kasumi's DLC and whether or not she's already in the game).

However, skipping this DLC to download Firewalker for free and paying for Kasumi DLC means that we want more missions and gameplay options, not texture mods.

yeah, I won't get this DLC, but I guess I'll get Kasumi.

Ray Joel Oh wrote...

Not paying for it just shows them "Hey, I guess there isn't a market for DLC anymore, guess we'll save ourselves some time and money by moving on to other things."

see this:

Schroing wrote...

If Bioware is idiotic enough to equate this with real, money-worthy DLC, then I'm not sure I want them to continue in the game-making business.

exactly. I was disappointed by RtO already, was a complete joke, not worth any money really for that little bit of content, but if we're supposed to pay for THREE LOUSY SKINS now, then they're really going too far. If that becomes they're future policy, then I will not support it any longer...

[Ray Joel Oh]

There's no way that not paying for DLC will encourage more DLC, and I don't see how paying for DLC will discourage good DLC. I'm happy to support their efforts.

[RadiantViper]

I really really wish it was free but it's no biggie cause I just won't buy it. Just hope this isn't a slippery slope.

[The_ilest]

this crap should have been part of the kasumi dlc if you ask me. dang it that means kasumi and these costumes might cost like 800 points put together.

[Collider]

If you don't want it, don't buy it.

[RadiantViper]

Collider wrote...

If you don't want it, don't buy it.

Genius! Never would have thought of that. I usually buy things I don't want.

Modifié par RadiantViper, 20 mars 2010 - 03:03 .

[TheTrooper1138]

Ray Joel Oh wrote...

There's no way that not paying for DLC will encourage more DLC, and I don't see how paying for DLC will discourage good DLC. I'm happy to support their efforts.

OK, let me put it like this: let's assume, you are a dev for a moment. Now you have the choice to either make some stuff that didn't really require a lot of work and still sells or to work on some new good stuff that would require a lot more effort and that will sell as well, but you have to work more and the people are gonna buy the stuff you don't have to work so much for anyways.. what do you do? 

[Mondo47]

*shrugs*

I like the retro-80's-style sci-fi-ness of the Alt-Appearance stuff so far... the price isn't astronomical or anything...

Something larger would be nice, sure, but I'll part with the readies if it supports the development of other DLC.

[Ray Joel Oh]

TheTrooper1138 wrote...

Ray Joel Oh wrote...

There's no way that not paying for DLC will encourage more DLC, and I don't see how paying for DLC will discourage good DLC. I'm happy to support their efforts.

OK, let me put it like this: let's assume, you are a dev for a moment. Now you have the choice to either make some stuff that didn't really require a lot of work and still sells or to work on some new good stuff that would require a lot more effort and that will sell as well, but you have to work more and the people are gonna buy the stuff you don't have to work so much for anyways.. what do you do? 

Good content will sell anyway, and they can get away with charging a lot more for it.  I'm fine with encouraging their experimentation.

[Collider]

RadiantViper wrote...

Collider wrote...

If you don't want it, don't buy it.

Genius! Never would have thought of that. I usually buy things I don't want.

at least you admit it =p

[TheTrooper1138]

Ray Joel Oh wrote...

TheTrooper1138 wrote...

Ray Joel Oh wrote...

There's no way that not paying for DLC will encourage more DLC, and I don't see how paying for DLC will discourage good DLC. I'm happy to support their efforts.

OK, let me put it like this: let's assume, you are a dev for a moment. Now you have the choice to either make some stuff that didn't really require a lot of work and still sells or to work on some new good stuff that would require a lot more effort and that will sell as well, but you have to work more and the people are gonna buy the stuff you don't have to work so much for anyways.. what do you do? 

Good content will sell anyway, and they can get away with charging a lot more for it.  I'm fine with encouraging their experimentation.

yes, but if they can sell the other one as well, why bother creating something that requires real effort?

[searanox]

They have a term for this. It's called "nickle and diming". This is what BioWare is doing here. Protest it by not buying. It's that simple. You lose out on nothing.

[Ray Joel Oh]

TheTrooper1138 wrote...
yes, but if they can sell the other one as well, why bother creating something that requires real effort?

Because a real estate agent learning they can sell fifty glasses of lemonade as quickly as they can sell fifty houses isn't going to give up their day job.

[Aryck the One]

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Aryck1095 V2 wrote...

You guys are a bunch of slack-jawed idiototic cheap-skates. You're seriously turning a matter of TWO DOLLARS into an argument about economics and capitalism? I'm sorry, but that is just ridiculous.

I'm pretty sure I can dig up two dollars in pennies if I dig through my piggy bank. Hell, I'll give 'em THREE dollars if they would just get rid of those stupid sunglasses. I'll even throw in a bag of Skittles.

By the way, doesn't Jack's new duds remind you of Mission Vao from KOTOR? Just a thought. Hmmm... I wonder if they'll come up with some Mandalore-style armor for Zaeed...

Thank god. Someone else who realizes how much two dollars is actually worth.

Every two dollars I spend on this is two dollars I didn't spend on something else.

Because two dollars is such a huge fraction of your total income that you have to save it incase you need it for another purchase. <_<

It's more than enough. You know, I could sponsor a needy child in Africa or something for a whole damn month.
Are you saying Bioware deserves my money more than needy children?
Are you?

Well I'd rather give Bioware two dollars than give two dollars to Africa in aid that's going to get stolen by armed militants the instant it gets there and will never reach it's intended destination.

Someone's Mr. Jaded.

Jaded? Hardly. Just when you take into account that Ghana is pretty much the only country in central Africa not currently experincing some form of civil war, it seems unlikley that the aid given will get to its intended recepients. Now if you're talking about giving money to Ghanean children, trust me, they don't need it. Their country just found a ****load of oil! Which history has shown brings nothing but profit, not corporate explotation and political instability.
No, that never happens.

Africa isn't the only third-world country, you know. There are plenty not involved in civil wars, and plenty of those are occupied partially by children.

Yes, there are, but you distinctly said African children. If you want to send some money to some child in a stable third world country, be my guest.

Edit: I just realized that, in a topic that is supposed to be about wether or not we are going to be buying some paid DLC or not, we have gotten into a debate about the economic and political stability of Africa. 

How the hell did that happen? 

Your guess is as good as mine. First we're arguing over paying two measly dollars for some new DLC, then we
move on to capitalism and ice-cream sandwichs, and now we're on impoverished children in Africa. What the heck?

[Collider]

It does appear like a lot of the money thrown at Africa is wasted by either government corruption, inept use, or rebels stealing it. Sad but true.

[mcsupersport]

Ray Joel Oh wrote...

TheTrooper1138 wrote...
yes, but if they can sell the other one as well, why bother creating something that requires real effort?

Because a real estate agent learning they can sell fifty glasses of lemonade as quickly as they can sell fifty houses isn't going to give up their day job.

But if the real estate agent learns they can sell 100 Condos on the internet at 10% profit margin or carry people around in a car and sell 20 houses for 30% profit margin, which are they going to do??  The idea is quick easy reskin turns around fast, allowing minimum work and still makes decent profit and new planets/levels missions requiring hours and hours of planning, programing and testing taking months to make slightly more profit, then most companies will go for what is quick and easier.  If you buy the cheap stuff, they think that is what you want, but if you pass on the cheap and only buy the bigger meaningful stuff, they realize you want the bigger stuff.  Companies will try to give you what you want, as long as they can make a profit from it, and one way to know if they are is how a product sells.

[TheTrooper1138]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

I want more and better DLC than ME1. I can do without the small stuff. I want expansion packs and stuff. I'll pay for that.

Agreed, so do I. The Liara DLC might be promising, if it turns out to be more than a simple side-quest and has some real story and character development!

[CmdrFenix83]

JeanLuc761 wrote...

Nah, something as trivial as that should be free. Not saying that texture work doesn't take time but when it holds no ingame bonus I'm not inclined to pay for it.

This.  Paying for new clothing for squadmates is absurd.  Isn't this the whole point of the Cerberus network?  I mean... I'd pay for worthwhile *content* to the game.  Cosmetic appearances are not content.

[GnusmasTHX]

TheTrooper1138 wrote...

95Headhunter wrote...

TheTrooper1138 wrote...

95Headhunter wrote...

Capitalism's a beautiful thing.

No, it's not.

Let me put it this way. Without it, that game that's the whole focus of these forums probably wouldn't exist.

ah, the old "without Capitalism there's no art" argument... I don't think you want me to go into that one... just look at how long Capitalism is around and at how long art has been around... sorry, but your argument is pure bullcrap, nothing more.

/facepalm.

[hawat333]

Well, yeah, 2 dollars isn't much, I just don't see the point of it not being included in the network or in one of the other DLC packs.

[Hyper Cutter]

Terraneaux wrote...

It *should* be free, but EA doesn't make money by giving things away for free.

Well, it's not "giving away for free" so much as "giving away to anyone who bought the game new or bought a CNet card"...

And this is not worth it at all. It might have been if it was new outfits for the whole squad for that price, but $8 (remember, there's enough squadmates for at least 3 more packs like this) for a bunch of costumes isn't worth it.

Anyone who thinks "stop complaining, the price isn't that much": That's exactly what they want, for you not to notice them nickel-and-diming you as they toss you the occasional scrap of content...

[Dethateer]

Hyper Cutter wrote...

Terraneaux wrote...

It *should* be free, but EA doesn't make money by giving things away for free.

Well, it's not "giving away for free" so much as "giving away to anyone who bought the game new or bought a CNet card"...

And this is not worth it at all. It might have been if it was new outfits for the whole squad for that price, but $8 (remember, there's enough squadmates for at least 3 more packs like this) for a bunch of costumes isn't worth it.

Anyone who thinks "stop complaining, the price isn't that much": That's exactly what they want, for you not to notice them nickel-and-diming you as they toss you the occasional scrap of content...

You're only wearing your keyboard down.

Modifié par Dethateer, 20 mars 2010 - 10:03 .