Sorry if this has been posted elsewhere, I have been unable to find any kind of constructive information on this issue.
So lets start off with the problem I'm having. The title pretty much says it all, I am getting literally epic, legendary, unplayable lag at all times in DA:O, for no apparent reason. For the vast majority of my play through, my only issue was with the memory leak causing incredible load times, but was able to play on max settings unimpeded, as long as I didn't switch areas. So, in frustration, i quit playing and waited for a patch to fix it. Lo and behold, 1.03 comes along, and I decide that with DA:A coming so soon, now's a wonderful time to finish my play through. Luckily, the loading issues are resolved, but now if I play for any longer than perhaps 30 seconds, there is uncontrollable lag in every way. The game play and frame rate slow to a bare crawl, spells will take untold minutes to go off, the inventory window will take an incredible amount of time to open, and who knows if the game even receives my commands to use potions or not.
Obviously, this is highly frustrating.
Without further Ado, here are my system specs:
Windows 7 Professional 64bit
AMD Phenom x4 9600 @ 2.3ghz
8gb RAM
ATI Radeon HD 4850 w/ 512mb
200+ gb free HD space
Any ideas as to whats causing this? Prior to this monumental lag, I was playing smoothly on max settings and 4x AA, I'm now unable to play on lowest settings with no AA. The lag seems to be happening equally no matter the settings i try, with no real apparent reason. Of course I'm playing with nothing going on in the back ground, or anything like that.
Also, my copy of the game is straight brick and mortar retail, no digital / steam editions here.
Help!?
Insane, Unplayable lag in DA:O
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starrider1026
, mars 20 2010 01:56
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Posté 21 mars 2010 - 08:46
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Just wondering if you changed Catalyst versions between the time it was good and the time it was "lagging"? I might sound like a broken record here, but have you looked at you vid card to see if it has any dust bunnys living in it? If it does, clean it out. I think ATI's catalyst drivers are now at 10.3 or 10.3a.
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Posté 21 mars 2010 - 09:01
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I have a similar problem, I can play for so long and then suddenly the framerate takes a massive hit (it happened before with the old ATI drivers and it happens just the same with the new ATI drivers so I don't think it's that)
System specs:
Windows XP SP3
AMD Phenom X4 9500 @ 2.2ghz
2gb RAM
Sapphire Radeon X1950XTX w/ 512mb
135gb free HD space
It's really weird because until the bug happens the game runs perfectly smoothly.
System specs:
Windows XP SP3
AMD Phenom X4 9500 @ 2.2ghz
2gb RAM
Sapphire Radeon X1950XTX w/ 512mb
135gb free HD space
It's really weird because until the bug happens the game runs perfectly smoothly.
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Posté 21 mars 2010 - 09:05
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Welcome to the ever growing crowd.
My story is very similar to yours. Haven't been able to play game since about a week after I got it on preorder because of massive slowdown at the Landsmeet. None of the three patches have helped me at all. I may be naive but I still think that BW will figure out whatever the problem is and patch it correctly.
EDIT: Was so busy ****ing forgot to give ya some advice.
Try running game in Windowed Mode. For me it helps a little, still locks up but it takes a little longer. Also try disabling any Sustained Buffs or anything that causes AoE effects on screen. Again it just barely helps me but you might get better results. Good Luck!
My story is very similar to yours. Haven't been able to play game since about a week after I got it on preorder because of massive slowdown at the Landsmeet. None of the three patches have helped me at all. I may be naive but I still think that BW will figure out whatever the problem is and patch it correctly.
EDIT: Was so busy ****ing forgot to give ya some advice.
Try running game in Windowed Mode. For me it helps a little, still locks up but it takes a little longer. Also try disabling any Sustained Buffs or anything that causes AoE effects on screen. Again it just barely helps me but you might get better results. Good Luck!
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Posté 21 mars 2010 - 09:40
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It's the 1.3 patch, it "fixed" load times and added horrible video lag and stuttering through out the entire game.
My comp is a little old but was able to handle DA:O respectably prior to installing 1.3. Now it is unplayable. Waiting for a patch to patch the patch is your only hope here, BioWare failed on this one.
Already a very large post about this with some Moderators recognizing the issue, though that doesn't really help our cause <shrug>
My comp is a little old but was able to handle DA:O respectably prior to installing 1.3. Now it is unplayable. Waiting for a patch to patch the patch is your only hope here, BioWare failed on this one.
Already a very large post about this with some Moderators recognizing the issue, though that doesn't really help our cause <shrug>
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Posté 21 mars 2010 - 06:55
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I did think of the driver issue, and updated to the most recent drivers, which unfortunately didn't help at all.
I will try the windowed mode and see if that will at least allow me to finish the game, otherwise, I guess I'll just hold off on buying awakening until we see patch 1.03a or 1.04. This is just really disappointing given the great games bioware makes, if only there could be a little bit less crap to sift through to get to the greatness.
I will try the windowed mode and see if that will at least allow me to finish the game, otherwise, I guess I'll just hold off on buying awakening until we see patch 1.03a or 1.04. This is just really disappointing given the great games bioware makes, if only there could be a little bit less crap to sift through to get to the greatness.
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Posté 21 mars 2010 - 07:31
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since you guys have older phenoms try searching for TLB Disabler in google or some such. should fix your problem.
its not so much Dragon Age but how the older phenoms were throttled by Microsoft at some point or another with a windows update ages ago? again if you google it you can find articles about it.
its not so much Dragon Age but how the older phenoms were throttled by Microsoft at some point or another with a windows update ages ago? again if you google it you can find articles about it.
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Posté 22 mars 2010 - 09:17
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jbmoberg wrote...
since you guys have older phenoms try searching for TLB Disabler in google or some such. should fix your problem.
its not so much Dragon Age but how the older phenoms were throttled by Microsoft at some point or another with a windows update ages ago? again if you google it you can find articles about it.
1) Only windows Vista has this problem, I'm on XP SP3 and Starrider1026 is on Win-7, the TLB disabler doesn't seem to have any effect.
2) For such a massive problem, why does it only affect DA:O?
The game doesn't hang, so much as it instead slows to a crawl and if you retreat to an area where it was previously running at normal speed it can often speed up again, also I find that pressing and holding the object highlight key (TAB) can also help to reduce the problem for some reason, so it's definitely NOT a processor problem or that'd only increase the problem.
I think it might have something to do with VRAM fragmentation.
Modifié par Legion-001, 22 mars 2010 - 09:27 .
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Posté 22 mars 2010 - 10:58
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I'm getting slowdowns, too. While they were rare in 1.02, it's pretty common now in 1.03, and I've to close/reboot the game to fix them 
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Posté 22 mars 2010 - 08:48
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Does anyone know if bioware is actually ever going to fix this?
I'm hoping that someday I might be able to actually play the game without having to keep quitting and restarting.
I'm hoping that someday I might be able to actually play the game without having to keep quitting and restarting.
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Posté 23 mars 2010 - 06:19
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@jbmoberg
Its pretty much like legion-001 described, my motherboard has the TLB disabler, (that was actually the first thing I tried shortly after release to fix the old insane load time issue), but it has zero effect on my performance in DA:O.
I guess i'll head down to the game store and grab the money i put down on DA:A, its looking more and more like this is a bioware issue than something wrong with my machine. Damn shame, but oh well, perhaps I'll try back in august or september.
Its pretty much like legion-001 described, my motherboard has the TLB disabler, (that was actually the first thing I tried shortly after release to fix the old insane load time issue), but it has zero effect on my performance in DA:O.
I guess i'll head down to the game store and grab the money i put down on DA:A, its looking more and more like this is a bioware issue than something wrong with my machine. Damn shame, but oh well, perhaps I'll try back in august or september.
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Posté 17 juillet 2010 - 04:47
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Same problem here. This game is completly unplayable for me. I have to restart almost every 15 minutes...
Could Bioware please do something about this? Considering how it turns great games into complete failures, it seems to be a pretty sad thing...
Could Bioware please do something about this? Considering how it turns great games into complete failures, it seems to be a pretty sad thing...
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Posté 17 juillet 2010 - 05:04
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Sorry, but Bioware doesn't interact in here. The closest you will get is EA's help / support site.
Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 19 juillet 2010 - 09:06 .
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Posté 17 juillet 2010 - 05:20
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Patch 1.04, which releases on Monday, is supposed to fix these issues.
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Posté 19 juillet 2010 - 08:18
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For all of you just search in google for TBL disable fix and trust me, you will be pleased with the results))
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I can't comment on Win 7 because I'm using XP Pro SP3 but this has been my experience:
1. Most of my problems with games and other programs happened not as a result of the game's code or the program's code, but due to improper installation of my OS, improper BIOS settings, or improper driver installation.
2. Unless you do a completely clean fresh reinstall of your OS Windows will read data from a previous installation and set parameters based on that data, even if they may wrong for your setup, or less than optimum for your current hardware setup.
3. Unfortunately, this means losing all data you may have backed up on your drives unless you can afford an external drive that you can physically disconnect from your system to ensure that Windows will not read ANY data from the drive WHATSOEVER during installation, and personally, I don't trust Windows not to read old bad data even after it is fully installed, but that's just me.
In my case this meant losing 20 - 40 GB of downloaded games and other data that had to be downloaded all over again, major frustration that I still don't understand the OS enough to force it not to read old bad data and a lot of wasted time.
4. By clean fresh reinstall I mean exactly that. Destruction of all partitions completely and repartitioning all your Hard drives to ensure that Windows cannot read any old data WHATSOEVER.
As far as I know this will help cure most common problems, but I'm sure there are some viruses out there that even such a drastic step as this won't solve, maybe rootkits or boot sector viruses.
If there's something like that on your system, good luck you're going to need to do some research.
5. Make sure your BIOS is up to date for your MOBO. Get your computer tech to do this and step 6 for you unless you know what you're doing because you can make your system unbootable with a bad flash or fry your CPU by setting voltages improperly. A bad flash could happen if the power fails while you're flashing the new BIOS. I've been lucky so far, but this is never a step I take lightly.
6. Make sure your BIOS settings are correct for your hardware. I've owned computers since the 80's and been using Windows since Win95 but to get my system set up correctly this last time still took 3 consecutive tries. There are lots of little settings to remember and sometimes things just seem to work more effectively if you install things in a particular order. If even 1 BIOS option is set incorrectly it can impact on system performance adversely, sometimes to a dramatic degree. Remember, it's the combination of the various options available in the BIOS that makes the difference.
If you don't know what a particular BIOS setting does, you will need to do some research and even then there might not be very much info available. In that case, if you're brave you can experiment to see if you can figure out the impact of changing a single option in your current setting, but many changes may not have an immediate or obvious result.
You can also fry your CPU or make your computer unbootable if you don't know what you're doing so be warned, screwing around in the BIOS without prerequisite knowledge can destroy your computer.
7. Make sure you install the correct drivers for your MOBO, and make sure you install them correctly. I try to do this just as soon as I have a running copy of Windows going because these drivers will probably have an impact on everything else in the system.
8. When you install drivers for your sound setup and vidcard, don't install from the installation disks that came with the hardware, unless you know for a fact that those disks already contain the latest drivers available for your hardware. Instead, get your network set up and your antivirus in place then download and install the latest drivers from the manufacturer's website right from the start. Doing it this way will ensure that you avoid a host of possible problems associated with improper driver installation.
9 Learn to keep your system clean and how to tweak the OS for best performance. I don't know about Win 7 but the XP NTFS date/timestamp tweak can dramatically speed up disk I/O.
10 Keep a record of your choices and prepare for frustration. When you finally have your system operating at peak efficiency, make a record of your BIOS settings, the exact order that you installed drivers, base system programs etc. and put it in a safe place for the next time you reinstall.
Pretty simple basic stuff, right? But even with many years of Windoze experience and many, many reinstalls under my belt, I still had to reinstall 3 consecutive times before I got everything right this last time. Sometimes the order in which you install certain drivers can make a difference.
Your reward for all this work and frustration? You'll have a blazingly fast stable system that runs as fast as it is capable of and has few or no problems with any programs you install, at least until you install a program or virus that breaks things.
I understand that this kind of process is not for everyone, as it entails massive frustration when things go wrong, a lot of time spent reacquiring data that you already had, and more than average willingness to make sure your system is set up correctly. If you're satisfied with a less than optimum setup none of this is really necessary.
Windows is perfectly capable of gimping along with many wrong settings, improperly installed drivers or programs etc., but they will cause problems somewhere in the system at some point with some program or other, sooner or later.
If you want your games to work perfectly, make sure your OS is installed correctly. If you're unable or unwilling to learn how to do that yourself, it may pay off in terms of frustration saved to get a computer tech who's also a gamer to install your system for you.
1. Most of my problems with games and other programs happened not as a result of the game's code or the program's code, but due to improper installation of my OS, improper BIOS settings, or improper driver installation.
2. Unless you do a completely clean fresh reinstall of your OS Windows will read data from a previous installation and set parameters based on that data, even if they may wrong for your setup, or less than optimum for your current hardware setup.
3. Unfortunately, this means losing all data you may have backed up on your drives unless you can afford an external drive that you can physically disconnect from your system to ensure that Windows will not read ANY data from the drive WHATSOEVER during installation, and personally, I don't trust Windows not to read old bad data even after it is fully installed, but that's just me.
In my case this meant losing 20 - 40 GB of downloaded games and other data that had to be downloaded all over again, major frustration that I still don't understand the OS enough to force it not to read old bad data and a lot of wasted time.
4. By clean fresh reinstall I mean exactly that. Destruction of all partitions completely and repartitioning all your Hard drives to ensure that Windows cannot read any old data WHATSOEVER.
As far as I know this will help cure most common problems, but I'm sure there are some viruses out there that even such a drastic step as this won't solve, maybe rootkits or boot sector viruses.
If there's something like that on your system, good luck you're going to need to do some research.
5. Make sure your BIOS is up to date for your MOBO. Get your computer tech to do this and step 6 for you unless you know what you're doing because you can make your system unbootable with a bad flash or fry your CPU by setting voltages improperly. A bad flash could happen if the power fails while you're flashing the new BIOS. I've been lucky so far, but this is never a step I take lightly.
6. Make sure your BIOS settings are correct for your hardware. I've owned computers since the 80's and been using Windows since Win95 but to get my system set up correctly this last time still took 3 consecutive tries. There are lots of little settings to remember and sometimes things just seem to work more effectively if you install things in a particular order. If even 1 BIOS option is set incorrectly it can impact on system performance adversely, sometimes to a dramatic degree. Remember, it's the combination of the various options available in the BIOS that makes the difference.
If you don't know what a particular BIOS setting does, you will need to do some research and even then there might not be very much info available. In that case, if you're brave you can experiment to see if you can figure out the impact of changing a single option in your current setting, but many changes may not have an immediate or obvious result.
You can also fry your CPU or make your computer unbootable if you don't know what you're doing so be warned, screwing around in the BIOS without prerequisite knowledge can destroy your computer.
7. Make sure you install the correct drivers for your MOBO, and make sure you install them correctly. I try to do this just as soon as I have a running copy of Windows going because these drivers will probably have an impact on everything else in the system.
8. When you install drivers for your sound setup and vidcard, don't install from the installation disks that came with the hardware, unless you know for a fact that those disks already contain the latest drivers available for your hardware. Instead, get your network set up and your antivirus in place then download and install the latest drivers from the manufacturer's website right from the start. Doing it this way will ensure that you avoid a host of possible problems associated with improper driver installation.
9 Learn to keep your system clean and how to tweak the OS for best performance. I don't know about Win 7 but the XP NTFS date/timestamp tweak can dramatically speed up disk I/O.
10 Keep a record of your choices and prepare for frustration. When you finally have your system operating at peak efficiency, make a record of your BIOS settings, the exact order that you installed drivers, base system programs etc. and put it in a safe place for the next time you reinstall.
Pretty simple basic stuff, right? But even with many years of Windoze experience and many, many reinstalls under my belt, I still had to reinstall 3 consecutive times before I got everything right this last time. Sometimes the order in which you install certain drivers can make a difference.
Your reward for all this work and frustration? You'll have a blazingly fast stable system that runs as fast as it is capable of and has few or no problems with any programs you install, at least until you install a program or virus that breaks things.
I understand that this kind of process is not for everyone, as it entails massive frustration when things go wrong, a lot of time spent reacquiring data that you already had, and more than average willingness to make sure your system is set up correctly. If you're satisfied with a less than optimum setup none of this is really necessary.
Windows is perfectly capable of gimping along with many wrong settings, improperly installed drivers or programs etc., but they will cause problems somewhere in the system at some point with some program or other, sooner or later.
If you want your games to work perfectly, make sure your OS is installed correctly. If you're unable or unwilling to learn how to do that yourself, it may pay off in terms of frustration saved to get a computer tech who's also a gamer to install your system for you.
Modifié par werwulf222, 19 juillet 2010 - 05:01 .
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Posté 19 juillet 2010 - 02:48
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Crud, I know how to properly install an OS but not how to prevent a double post in these forums when trying to edit a post.
Modifié par werwulf222, 19 juillet 2010 - 05:03 .
