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[Doctor_Jackstraw]

Oh man that IS a major plot hole. (It does make me wonder if it'd be cool for bioware to have made missions where ammo clips DONT drop from certain enemies...or annoying)

[exxxed]

gmartin40 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

Darth Drago wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

gmartin40 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

three minutes?

what the.......

and waaaaaaait a minute how exactly are we fighting Geth again? didn't we (some of us) REPROGRAM them???

I believe the ones outside the Perseus Veil weren't reprogrammed.

legion specifies ALL Heretics will be reprogrammed in a matter of days since they are all linked by the comm relays

Its BioWare brain fart logic. Just like finding thermal clips on a planet of shipwreck survivors that have been lost for 10 years or why Collectors drop thermal clips.

some husks do too

It's a game. Now you guys are bringing up things that don't need to be brought up. "...or why Collectors drop thermal clips."<<Really now??

 Bioware officials were the ones stating that they were aiming for a more realistic feel for Mass Effect, eh they even made a small documentary Sci vs. Fi, and an interview with some physicist explaining the science behind Mass Effect...

 So yeah, doesn't make any sort of sense...

[Dethateer]

That physicist has a show on Discovery Science. And his ideas relating to teleportation are... disturbing, to put things lightly.

[Jalem001]

If the Heretics do not connect themselves to the FTL network then they won't be reprogrammed and will hold out until they connect. So there could be Heretics, in theory, for decades. But it would just be small, isolated, pockets.



Also: I was waiting on Hammerhead before I passed judgement on ME2's side missions. This pretty much means that ME2 was a HUGE step in the wrong direction in terms of side missions.

[Doctor_Jackstraw]

http://www.destructo...ns-163035.phtml

Linking this because towards the end they mention that there are going to be dlc's that feature adventures that last several hours down the line. (Common knowledge I would assume but YOU NEVER KNOW)

Modifié par Doctor_Jackstraw, 20 mars 2010 - 11:15 .

[IRMcGhee]

If they didn't drop ammo you could run out of clips on those levels. Or do you guys think your team should have to go around punching enemies for half the mission ?

[crimzontearz]

IRMcGhee wrote...

If they didn't drop ammo you could run out of clips on those levels. Or do you guys think your team should have to go around punching enemies for half the mission ?

how about not implementing AMMO at all? you know

like the VAST majority of their previous games?

what's next? Oblivion/fallout-like deteriorationg gear?

[ImperialOperative]

exxxed wrote...

 Bioware officials were the ones stating that they were aiming for a more realistic feel for Mass Effect, eh they even made a small documentary Sci vs. Fi, and an interview with some physicist explaining the science behind Mass Effect...

 So yeah, doesn't make any sort of sense...

That's fine and dandy, but in the end game mechanics take precedence over lore specifics and logic.

Modifié par ImperialOperative, 20 mars 2010 - 11:26 .

[TJSolo]

IRMcGhee wrote...

If they didn't drop ammo you could run out of clips on those levels. Or do you guys think your team should have to go around punching enemies for half the mission ?

Depends on the mission.
If they didn't use or drop clips on the ship wreck, Shep and crew could just pick up and use the weapons that don't use clips.

Anyway that doesn't matter because it is purely functional to the ammo system that every enemy you fight has a chance to drop ammo even if it is illogical. 
All hail simplicity.

[RhedmondBarry]

NvVanity wrote...

xDarkicex wrote...

Why do people hate the Horse armor?? 0_o.. I liked it I loved riding my horse around, I know some people fast traveled but not me. it was a good DLC.

Probably because there was a mod for PC that existed that gave you horse armor. No wait not just Steel and Elven but every other kind as well. Daedric Horse armor is pimpin.

As for the DLC it's free. Who cares. If I give you a free sandwich are you going to complain because it doesn't have lettuce or its not your favorite type of bread?

No, but I would complain if there was a big old grey hair on my free sandwich.  And crappy free DLC is that big old grey hair, it just turns you off to the sandwich.

Modifié par RhedmondBarry, 20 mars 2010 - 11:29 .

[RyuGuitarFreak]

yoomazir wrote...

RyuGuitarFreak wrote...
Don't you know who the majority or minority is? Look at the "Mass Effect 1 or Mass Effect 2" poll here at Bioware Social. Mass Effect 2 IS MORE SUCCESSFULL than Mass Effect 1.

Are you saying thate the millions of people that have bought ME1 and/or ME2 have been in that poll? please, don't make me laugh.

No. But sure is a good way to find out what game the FANS liked most? Maybe the reviews? Or maybe go for sales? Or Metacritics user reviews? Now, put all of that together. Are you following me? EVERYTHING points out that ME2 is more sucessful than ME1. Maybe you're too blind to see.

[crimzontearz]

RyuGuitarFreak wrote...

yoomazir wrote...

RyuGuitarFreak wrote...
Don't you know who the majority or minority is? Look at the "Mass Effect 1 or Mass Effect 2" poll here at Bioware Social. Mass Effect 2 IS MORE SUCCESSFULL than Mass Effect 1.

Are you saying thate the millions of people that have bought ME1 and/or ME2 have been in that poll? please, don't make me laugh.

No. But sure is a good way to find out what game the FANS liked most? Maybe the reviews? Or maybe go for sales? Or Metacritics user reviews? Now, put all of that together. Are you following me? EVERYTHING points out that ME2 is more sucessful than ME1. Maybe you're too blind to see.

not to mention that polls are a SAMPLE of a target population/audience usually in the hundreds from which one extrapolates a percentual current or currents of thoughts......

heeeeeeeello? we ARE a sample of the Mass Effect target audience...a WELL VARIED sample at that from all over the world not just the us....

people should stop using the ridiculous claim that the result of a poll here is not a good representation

[yoomazir]

RyuGuitarFreak wrote...

No. But sure is a good way to find out what game the FANS liked most? Maybe the reviews? Or maybe go for sales? Or Metacritics user reviews? Now, put all of that together. Are you following me? EVERYTHING points out that ME2 is more sucessful than ME1. Maybe you're too blind to see.

Oh yes, like Bioshock 2 or Modern Warfare 2 right? both sequel, both having sold more than their predecessor and guess what? both of them are disapointments, just like ME2. These sequels sold well because they come from good games and people expected their sequels to be also good, yet they discover that what they loved have been butchered for the sake of sooner release and fast sales. 
I'll bet anything that if people actually knew what was in tehse sequel at least half of them would have passed.

oh and yes, I'm so blinded by these people with their 5 years old mentallity.

[TJSolo]

crimzontearz wrote...

RyuGuitarFreak wrote...

yoomazir wrote...

RyuGuitarFreak wrote...
Don't you know who the majority or minority is? Look at the "Mass Effect 1 or Mass Effect 2" poll here at Bioware Social. Mass Effect 2 IS MORE SUCCESSFULL than Mass Effect 1.

Are you saying thate the millions of people that have bought ME1 and/or ME2 have been in that poll? please, don't make me laugh.

No. But sure is a good way to find out what game the FANS liked most? Maybe the reviews? Or maybe go for sales? Or Metacritics user reviews? Now, put all of that together. Are you following me? EVERYTHING points out that ME2 is more sucessful than ME1. Maybe you're too blind to see.

not to mention that polls are a SAMPLE of a target population/audience usually in the hundreds from which one extrapolates a percentual current or currents of thoughts......

heeeeeeeello? we ARE a sample of the Mass Effect target audience...a WELL VARIED sample at that from all over the world not just the us....

people should stop using the ridiculous claim that the result of a poll here is not a good representation

The user polls here are really rough sampling and subject to a lot of bias. Namely a poll like asking if a player prefered ME1 over ME2. There isn't any way to even check that those answering have played either game not to mention both.
Then there are polls with wording problems of the answers/questions which skew the poll.
The user polls are interesting to look at but not the greatest in terms of actually getting samplings without a heavy bias error.

[Tempest]

ME2 is a huge improvement over ME1 in more ways than one. Plus this is a thread for Hammerhead, not ME2 in general. If you want to complain about it, look at the other hate threads related to ME2 in general.

Now for hammerhead, though it is fairly short, i'll judge the missions based on overall time completion and enjoyment.

Modifié par Tempest, 21 mars 2010 - 12:25 .

[Tempest]

As for the geth issue. We all know that Hammerhead is coming. Now when we get to use it isn't specific. Could we use it the very second we look at the galaxy map? If it works the same way as Zaeed and the Normandy crash site than there are NO mess ups on the time line. Just whether or not we choose to put off that quest more towards the end than the beginning.

[JKoopman]

I see people are still using the "It's free!" argument to defend disappointing DLC, as if that hasn't been refuted a dozen times over already.

Look people, the Firewalker pack isn't free. It's part of the Cerberus Network which is itself a $15 product, access to which is provided as part of the retail price of ME2. Let me say that again. ACCESS TO THE CERBERUS NETWORK IS PART OF THE PURCHASE AGREEMENT MADE BETWEEN  BIOWARE AND THE END USER. Saying that we shouldn't complain about ****ty DLC because "it's free" would be like buying a new car only to find that it has 4 flat tires and when you take it back to the dealership they tell you not to complain because "the tires were free with the purchase of the car."

Furthermore, people who bought ME2 used (or who have multiple accounts/gamertags) actually have to spend $15 out of pocket for access to the Network. So any way you look at it, the content provided through the Cerberus Network has real monetary value and we're not out of line for expecting quality from that content.

RyuGuitarFreak wrote...

yoomazir wrote...

RyuGuitarFreak wrote...
Don't you know who the majority or minority is? Look at the "Mass Effect 1 or Mass Effect 2" poll here at Bioware Social. Mass Effect 2 IS MORE SUCCESSFULL than Mass Effect 1.

Are you saying thate the millions of people that have bought ME1 and/or ME2 have been in that poll? please, don't make me laugh.

No. But sure is a good way to find out what game the FANS liked most? Maybe the reviews? Or maybe go for sales? Or Metacritics user reviews? Now, put all of that together. Are you following me? EVERYTHING points out that ME2 is more sucessful than ME1. Maybe you're too blind to see.

I'm sure WWE wrestling and NASCAR are more popular than museums or the theater. That doesn't make them better. Just more popular.

Modifié par JKoopman, 21 mars 2010 - 12:58 .

[SithLordExarKun]

yoomazir wrote...

Oh yes, like Bioshock 2 or Modern Warfare 2 right? both sequel, both having sold more than their predecessor and guess what? both of them are disapointments, just like ME2. These sequels sold well because they come from good games and people expected their sequels to be also good, yet they discover that what they loved have been butchered for the sake of sooner release and fast sales. 
I'll bet anything that if people actually knew what was in tehse sequel at least half of them would have passed.

oh and yes, I'm so blinded by these people with their 5 years old mentallity.

Yoomazir grow up you act like a child, people like you when being proven wrong get all upset and start cussing, it makes you look foolish and it proves that you have no faith in your own argument but are just getting upset over the fact that there is proof against your argument in the first place.



You just can't accept the fact that many people prefer ME2 over ME1
can you and must act like a spoiled child that didn't get his toy? heh

Modifié par SithLordExarKun, 21 mars 2010 - 01:38 .

[yoomazir]

SithLordExarKun wrote...
 You just can't accept the fact that many people prefer ME2 over ME1 can you and must act like a spoiled child that didn't get his toy?

Oh look who's here,and no, I can accept people having different tastes than me tyvm
And by the way, that spoiled child & toy thing, looks like you got some knowledge about about, what's your story son? you lived that recently? did it traumatise you? where did end your toy? from your lovely comments I sincerely hope it's not in that blackspot where the sun doesn't shine...

Modifié par yoomazir, 21 mars 2010 - 01:44 .

[Doctor_Jackstraw]

was anyone dissapointed in Zaeed? Or the Normandy Crash Site? Or the extra gear we've recieved already? I mean not every piece is going to be fully featured on it's own but as a whole when cerberus network is finished and done with it'll probably combine to be worth well more than the 15 dollars it costs to try to be a cheapskate at EB Games.  The entire purpose of Cerberus network is to give us continuously supported content without adding extra fees ontop of it as we go.  Cerberus network is all about quantity of content, while stuff like the Kasumi dlc is quality of content where it's a more impressive piece on it's own.


I mean it's not like this stuff is already made and they're just messing with us. that's childish and dumb to think that. we get stuff as it is finished and we get paid dlc for more extravagent ideas like kasumi (Who's got about as much content as we got in the first few cerberus updates and then some; her loyalty mission is apparently larger than even the official ones and apparently is 2-3 parts long)

Modifié par Doctor_Jackstraw, 21 mars 2010 - 01:52 .

[SithLordExarKun]

yoomazir wrote...



Oh look who's here,and no, I can accept people having different tastes than me tyvm

Your actions tells a completely different story. Infact 90% of your posts are bashing people that actually liked ME2.

yoomazir wrote...
And by the way, that spoiled child & toy thing, looks like you got some knowledge about about, what's your story son? you lived that recently? did it traumatise you? where did end your toy? from your lovely comments I sincerely hope it's not in that blackspot where the sun doesn't shine...

My story is that i have knowledge about how your drunken father beat you for loose change just to get a little more booze while your mom sold her family fortune just to raise someone like you. Hence you voicing your insecurities on the internet.
Really, if you want to try to insult people, try to insult people more intelligently rather than your typical "ask a stupid question" and trying to annoy me in the process which obviously didn't work.

[EternalWolfe]

Doctor_Jackstraw wrote...
SNIP

I think that part of the problem is that everything they've heard about the Hammerhead, and the ideas they see in their own mind, they just expected more then what they've seen so far.

Of course, I'll hold my judgement back until I get a full picture of it - at the very least, it looks like the Hammerhead might be more fun to drive around then the Mako was.

I'll miss the exploration - that is what I'd like to see.  A few good explorable worlds with the Hammerhead.

[RyuGuitarFreak]

yoomazir wrote...

RyuGuitarFreak wrote...

No. But sure is a good way to find out what game the FANS liked most? Maybe the reviews? Or maybe go for sales? Or Metacritics user reviews? Now, put all of that together. Are you following me? EVERYTHING points out that ME2 is more sucessful than ME1. Maybe you're too blind to see.

Oh yes, like Bioshock 2 or Modern Warfare 2 right? both sequel, both having sold more than their predecessor and guess what? both of them are disapointments, just like ME2. These sequels sold well because they come from good games and people expected their sequels to be also good, yet they discover that what they loved have been butchered for the sake of sooner release and fast sales. 
I'll bet anything that if people actually knew what was in tehse sequel at least half of them would have passed.

oh and yes, I'm so blinded by these people with their 5 years old mentallity.

It is a disappointment FOR YOU. And some people. I'm telling you to look at the big picture. It sold better. I know some people who didn't play ME1 but was interested in ME2 and they liked it. Because it's more a shooter? WHOT THE HELL CARES? Games are about having fun, no matter the genre. But let's talk about quality. I made that poll as an example. It is like a versus thread. The majority of people voted ME2 as better. The majority of reviewers in their sites and magazines pointed that ME2 is an IMPROVEMENT from ME1. And some users who reviews. Some even say it's game of the year material already. What can you conclude about this?

Yeah, I am the one who has a 5 year old mentality.

And yes, I loved Mass Effect 1.

Modifié par RyuGuitarFreak, 21 mars 2010 - 02:06 .

[SithLordExarKun]

Just ignore that social reject, he obviously doesn't like anyone whose taste is different from his and i bet you if the poll showed more people liking ME1 than ME2 he would use it to his advantage rather than argue against it.

Modifié par SithLordExarKun, 21 mars 2010 - 02:11 .

[exxxed]

RyuGuitarFreak wrote...

It is a disappointment FOR YOU. And some people. I'm telling you to look at the big picture. It sold better. I know some people who didn't play ME1 but was interested in ME2 and they liked it. Because it's more a shooter? WHOT THE HELL CARES? Games are about having fun, no matter the genre. But let's talk about quality. I made that poll as an example. It is like a versus thread. The majority of people voted ME2 as better. The majority of reviewers in their sites and magazines pointed that ME2 is an IMPROVEMENT from ME1. And some users who reviews. Some even say it's game of the year material already. What can you conclude about this?

Yeah, I am the one who has a 5 year old mentality.

And yes, I loved Mass Effect 1.

 And what's it to you that it sold better? Are you making any profit from this? Or are you justifying the fact that you like the game because it's more popular?

Next i'll quote myself from another thread:

 " Ok but you have to actually ask yourself how many of the people who voted started the series with ME 2 and then bought ME 1, and how many of them are "Shooter only, RPG boring" players, plus brig in to this equation the number of people who didn't play Mass Effect 1 on the PC where all the features (Mako handling, inventory tedious, squad commands, power wheel etc.) were improved (yea we on the PC got an pretty good inventory with sections for each kind of item and etc.), i think this pretty much sums up all the people who liked ME 2 better, and believe me most of the new fans were attracted to this franchise with nr. 2 because of it's action part and not the RPG, exactly in contrary with the first one where most of the people who bought the game came from an overall great KoTOR experience expecting more of the same, which they got , now the fanbase was divided because half of them expected an improved Mass Effect 1 experience and were disappointed, and the other half which includes new players and people who wanted this to become more "streamlined" got what they wanted, an action game with an engaging story period."  

 The reviewers stated that it's better... you can't have your own opinion or what? And most reviews i've seen or heard sound like brown-nosers, or totally biased. 
 Come to think about it, the same reviewers said that the first is a great innovation to the genre and it brought a more fleshed out combat system, now the combat system has taken over the franchise it seems "ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL".

 I'm not holding against anyone who likes the sequel better than the first, but there really are some valid complaints about it, just like it was with the first, people who didn't like it complained and the ones who did stayed silent, now it's exactly the other way around!
 
 
Take care!