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Average Hammerhead mission completion time: Approx. 3 mins. WTF?


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Comparing Bethesda's DLC and BW DLC isn't really sensible. The Fallout 3 team did all the DLCs for the game, where as the main team of ME2 is already doing ME3 (and has been doing ME3 for some time). So comparing the 2 DLCs isn't fair.



As for HH missions, there will be, with out a shadow of a doubt, a big DLC with longer and more missions that you will have to pay money for.

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I really do not care if this is free. Bioware is giving me something for free that i could easily pay for myself. I would have rather been charged and received content, instead of getting something seemingly pointless that i fear will seem highly tacked onto the game.

Modifié par brzozowski4, 21 mars 2010 - 07:38 .


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SithLordExarKun wrote...

Secondly  , you're the only person i bashed on this thread, the only other "people" i bashed in this forum were TJsolo and Dink, one of it was because i was being stalked and the other because he crossed the line.


I told you I was not going to bother with you or any of your comments after the last time. Don't bring up my name in this you arrogant S O B. 
You harrasss people over and over with comments soaked in gasoline.
Anytime someone puts a bit of emotion in a post you job on them trying to get a response.

As far as stalking goes, you have been stalking yoomazir for while, a long while.
Spare the righteous justification you have for your attitude; put a cap on it.

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TJSolo wrote...

Keep hope alive! Maybe it will one of the few sequels that can out sell its predecessor within the same gaming generation.
You would have to link me to your hindsight or jaded vision. GOTY talk is still GOTY talk, you and your "more praise" denotes your small viewing window or poor memory.


I'm using facts to back up what I'm saying. I dunno how it could be questioned.

Check Metacritic or Gamerankings.com. The fact that "ME2" is averaging higher review scores than "ME1" obviously means the sequel has a better chance to win GOTY since the same sites rating it higher compile the GOTY lists. It's not rocket science.

As far as sales, even if "ME2" sells the same as "ME1" that's an accomplishment in itself, considering the two games came out at completely opposite times of the year, in terms of game sales. But right now this minute, "ME2" is ahead by 350k, in one of the slowest times of year for game sales.

Modifié par hex23, 21 mars 2010 - 09:27 .


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i already new this was coming sadly

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I suspected that it wouldn't be very long because it's 5 missions, if they were all long imagine how much would it be. Maybe we'll get more Hammerhead missions latter on, and harder... I hope.

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[quote]TJSolo wrote...

I told you I was not going to bother with you or any of your comments after the last time. Don't bring up my name in this you arrogant S O B. 
[/quote] So why are you responding? Trying to save face on the internet again?
Talk about stalking people when you still constantly stalked me after being warned by a MOD
Consider yourself reported.


[/quote]

Modifié par SithLordExarKun, 22 mars 2010 - 02:27 .


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[quote]SithLordExarKun wrote...

[quote]TJSolo wrote...

I told you I was not going to bother with you or any of your comments after the last time. Don't bring up my name in this you arrogant S O B. 
[/quote] So why are you responding? Trying to save face on the internet again?
Talk about stalking people when you still constantly stalked me after being warned by a MOD
Consider yourself reported.


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I was never warned by a mod and my reply was based on the fact you felt the need to bring my name up and disparge my character yet again. If you want to talk about your opinions fine but there is no need to bring up my name or any poster for that matter to support you opinions.

Report all you want so that mods can actually research the situations you seem to start.

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man both of you 2 seriously stfu. you guys are like 5 year olds

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People complained about elevators. Result: elevators removed.



People complain about free content. Anticipated result: production of free content will cease.

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Didn't wanna bump thread but since it's been done.....



This is from the guy who uploaded those videos Gamefaqs account:

"Theres 2 more missions, one is quite long where you traverse through a volcano, it also includes a walk around part inside a mining base of sorts, the other is the one youve already seen via official channels collecting data and shooting geth. The geth one is quite short."



and after responding to being asked if he was a Bioware employee



"Surley if i was an employee trying to build hype, id do it for a piece of content that has a price attached to it, no lets hype a freebie that most people will download anyway as its free.



Not only that but the firewalker is kinda lame... there is only one mission worth playing and i have not capped that level."



I still find it hard to believe Bioware planned/made only 5 missions(4 of which are short)for a vehicle that was intended for the main game @_@.


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hex23 wrote...

TJSolo wrote...

Keep hope alive! Maybe it will one of the few sequels that can out sell its predecessor within the same gaming generation.
You would have to link me to your hindsight or jaded vision. GOTY talk is still GOTY talk, you and your "more praise" denotes your small viewing window or poor memory.


I'm using facts to back up what I'm saying. I dunno how it could be questioned.

Check Metacritic or Gamerankings.com. The fact that "ME2" is averaging higher review scores than "ME1" obviously means the sequel has a better chance to win GOTY since the same sites rating it higher compile the GOTY lists. It's not rocket science.

As far as sales, even if "ME2" sells the same as "ME1" that's an accomplishment in itself, considering the two games came out at completely opposite times of the year, in terms of game sales. But right now this minute, "ME2" is ahead by 350k, in one of the slowest times of year for game sales.


Well you weren't talking GOTY chances based on scores you were talking about praise which is immaterial seeing a GOTY nomination is an equal level of praise.
Game score also does not increase chances of winning GOTY, it can put a game in the running but after that it is based on votes.

You want to see the difference based on time of year but fail to see that initial sales of a sequel corresponds to the popularity and sales of the predecessor. You comparisions of ME1 and 2 approach them as they are two rival products.
ME2 has passed the 3 week new game phase and sale pacing reflects that. The pacing has dropped below the pacing ME1 had at the same time.
Very few sequels can surpass the sales of the predecessor. Best of luck to ME2. There is a long year ahead to accomplish that feat.

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TJSolo wrote...


I was never warned by a mod and my reply was based on the fact you felt the need to bring my name up and disparge my character yet again.

Good lord are you THAT sensitive? All i told that reject was the only other person i bashed was you and some other guy, and that you were stalking me a while ago.

You seriously care too much about what people think of you on the internet so I'll let this go without comment. Mocking you is like having a boxing match with a crippled kitten.

TJSolo wrote...
If you want to talk about your opinions fine but there is no need to bring up my name or any poster for that matter to support you opinions.

Report all you want so that mods can actually research the situations you seem to start.

Oh right like how you started attacking me first.

Modifié par SithLordExarKun, 22 mars 2010 - 02:50 .


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SithLordExarKun wrote...

TJSolo wrote...


I was never warned by a mod and my reply was based on the fact you felt the need to bring my name up and disparge my character yet again.

Good lord are you THAT sensitive? All i told that reject was the only other person i bashed was you and some other guy, and that you were stalking me a while ago.

You seriously care too much about what people think of you on the internet so I'll let this go without comment. Mocking you is like having a boxing match with a crippled kitten.

TJSolo wrote...
If you want to talk about your opinions fine but there is no need to bring up my name or any poster for that matter to support you opinions.

Report all you want so that mods can actually research the situations you seem to start.

Oh right like how you started attacking me first.


Don't deflect.
You brought me and someone else up only to try and justify why you antagonize people. It is nice how you mention your premise was to mock me, class poster you are. If this was the mocking forums you would get a B.
Don't bring up my name in your posts for a mocking, ridiculing, or flaming reason.
That level of maturity would be greatly appreciated.

Oh right like how you started attacking me first.


Like I said report it. Let the mods research it.

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TJSolo wrote...



Don't deflect.
You brought me and someone else up only to try and justify why you antagonize people.

Antagonizing you =/= antagonizing other people. Don't act like just because i "attacked" you, it means i attacked every other member in this forum.

By the way don't play the victim, the very first argument we had was when you started to stalk me throughout the entire forums relentlessly attacking and challenging me  at every post i made.

And what ever happened to you not wanting to respond to me?? You even said in your PM that you would leave me alone yet here you are barking : "Like I said in the thread.

I am going to stop commenting to your song and dance in threads, so
you can enjoy your posting style.

My biggest mistake in the last 40mins was commenting on your comment
and not the topic.


^posted by you in a PM.

Can i say over sensitive hypocrite?

TJSolo wrote...


It is nice how you mention your premise was to mock me, class poster you are. If this was the mocking forums you would get a B.

Mock you? I just said i wouldn't bother mocking you, to reassure your sensitive personality that i am not going to attack you.

TJSolo wrote...

Don't bring up my name in your posts for a mocking, ridiculing, or flaming reason.
That level of maturity would be greatly appreciated.

Stop policing the forums, stop dictating weather people are right or wrong, stop stalking me and last but not least, stop being so sensitive about how people think of you on an internet forum.
That level of maturity would be greatly appreciated.

But seriously, i can do that, if you quit stalking me and leave me alone.

#341
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Could TJsolo and SithLordExarKun kindly stay on topic please. We don't need this thread getting closed from a flame war.

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Indeed.

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Ragnadaam wrote...

Didn't wanna bump thread but since it's been done.....

This is from the guy who uploaded those videos Gamefaqs account:
"Theres 2 more missions, one is quite long where you traverse through a volcano, it also includes a walk around part inside a mining base of sorts, the other is the one youve already seen via official channels collecting data and shooting geth. The geth one is quite short."

and after responding to being asked if he was a Bioware employee

"Surley if i was an employee trying to build hype, id do it for a piece of content that has a price attached to it, no lets hype a freebie that most people will download anyway as its free.

Not only that but the firewalker is kinda lame... there is only one mission worth playing and i have not capped that level."

I still find it hard to believe Bioware planned/made only 5 missions(4 of which are short)for a vehicle that was intended for the main game @_@.


If what he says is true, it is really sad that the Hammerhead is more of demo and is not increasing the value of Cerberus Network.

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SithLord sucks eggs!

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Well thanks goodness they worked on this pointless thing instead of coding a 'remove helmet' option.

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TJSolo wrote...

Ragnadaam wrote...

Didn't wanna bump thread but since it's been done.....

This is from the guy who uploaded those videos Gamefaqs account:
"Theres 2 more missions, one is quite long where you traverse through a volcano, it also includes a walk around part inside a mining base of sorts, the other is the one youve already seen via official channels collecting data and shooting geth. The geth one is quite short."

and after responding to being asked if he was a Bioware employee

"Surley if i was an employee trying to build hype, id do it for a piece of content that has a price attached to it, no lets hype a freebie that most people will download anyway as its free.

Not only that but the firewalker is kinda lame... there is only one mission worth playing and i have not capped that level."

I still find it hard to believe Bioware planned/made only 5 missions(4 of which are short)for a vehicle that was intended for the main game @_@.


If what he says is true, it is really sad that the Hammerhead is more of demo and is not increasing the value of Cerberus Network.

So if they added a $$ fee to it to increase the value of the Cerberus Network then you would be okay with it? Or do you just not like the idea of having to use something like the Cerberus Network?

The bottomline is if the mission lengths are as short as they are, mind you the actual mission lengths for missions in ME2 outside of the main story missions are short themselves, only shows that it's either a test form of content (vehicle sections suck) or the initial stages of design for content in ME3.

So the only thing that really matters is whether or not the content is any good. So rate the controls etc and give Bioware the feedback they actually need to have so they can not have the abundunce of fail that the Mako and it's use was in ME.

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I would rather have 15 minutes of kickass Hammerhead missions than infinite hours of humdrum Mako shenanigans.

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mrfoo1 wrote...

TJSolo wrote...

Ragnadaam wrote...

Didn't wanna bump thread but since it's been done.....

This is from the guy who uploaded those videos Gamefaqs account:
"Theres 2 more missions, one is quite long where you traverse through a volcano, it also includes a walk around part inside a mining base of sorts, the other is the one youve already seen via official channels collecting data and shooting geth. The geth one is quite short."
and after responding to being asked if he was a Bioware employee

"Surley if i was an employee trying to build hype, id do it for a piece of content that has a price attached to it, no lets hype a freebie that most people will download anyway as its free.
Not only that but the firewalker is kinda lame... there is only one mission worth playing and i have not capped that level."
I still find it hard to believe Bioware planned/made only 5 missions(4 of which are short)for a vehicle that was intended for the main game @_@.


If what he says is true, it is really sad that the Hammerhead is more of demo and is not increasing the value of Cerberus Network.

So if they added a $$ fee to it to increase the value of the Cerberus Network then you would be okay with it? Or do you just not like the idea of having to use something like the Cerberus Network?

The bottomline is if the mission lengths are as short as they are, mind you the actual mission lengths for missions in ME2 outside of the main story missions are short themselves, only shows that it's either a test form of content (vehicle sections suck) or the initial stages of design for content in ME3.

So the only thing that really matters is whether or not the content is any good. So rate the controls etc and give Bioware the feedback they actually need to have so they can not have the abundunce of fail that the Mako and it's use was in ME.


Well considering that the pay2play content is starting; keeping the value and commitment to content placed on CN is an issue. I am not saying that this will be the end free content but generally people expected the content to stop either after Hammerhead or Kasumi.
If CN will only be used as a testing ground for pay2play content then why should someone spend $15 to get CN instead of just spending money on the actual content?
If CN was free for everyone universally then sure but to claim it has a value of $15 means it should be worth that much.

Seeing as most of the missions are linear, 3 minutes, and don't have that much combat seems that people waiting for the prolific return of a exploration/combat mako-type vehicle will have to make due with play testing the Hammerhead for Bioware.

I am not trying to play Nostradamus no matter how it sounds.; just that when the question comes up of should someone buy CN as it stands now my answer will be no.
Hopefully more commitement to CN content will allow me to say yes.

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SurfaceBeneath wrote...

I would rather have 15 minutes of kickass Hammerhead missions than infinite hours of humdrum Mako shenanigans.


Heheh - humdrum and shenanigans...

I concur, for what it's worth.

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SurfaceBeneath wrote...

I would rather have 15 minutes of kickass Hammerhead missions than infinite hours of humdrum Mako shenanigans.

so true.