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[Qwepir]

LoneFullmetal wrote...

Qwepir wrote...

-Skorpious- wrote...

My main gripe with planet scanning is that it took the beautifully rendered planets of ME:1 and turned them into hideous cookie-cutter models. 

You seem to be confused.
Let me fix that for you

-Skorpious- wrote...

My main gripe with planet scanning is that it took the hideous cookie-cutter planets of ME:1 and turned them into ordinary planets. 

Just so you know, planets are spherical, so they aren't really "cookie-cutter" models.

Hey, cookie cutters do come in different shapes. Though I don't see what good a spherical shaped cookie cutter would do when you can just roll it into a ball...

What I'm saying is how can he say the planets area "cookie-cutter" models when all planets are round. Would he rather some of them be cubes?

[The Angry One]

bjdbwea wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

What? What? Honestly that minigame is silly. Use your brain? You make 3 guesses based on vague assumptions then you shut the terminal off and try again - no consequences.

Nonsense. You can certainly approach the mini game that way - but if you do "waste" a few seconds thinking, it's all logical and not "vague assumptions". Besides, in my game the terminals are locked after you fail once (except when you have selected a special perk). Not to mention the fact that you can't access some terminals at all if your skill isn't high enough, and that your chances of success depend on the skill too. That's called role playing.

The terminals lock if you make 4 failed attempts. If you make 3 and shut it off however, you can do it again with no penalty. That's called bad programming.
You can "think" all you want, and they'll still be vague assumptions. Sometimes the answer is randomly illogical.

[bjdbwea]

It's never illogical. Maybe the skill of your character isn't high enough. But Fallout 3 was not the topic here anyway. The question was whether better mini games can be done, and the answer is: Yes, Fallout 3 may still not be perfect, but it's a thousand times better than the repetitive, boring "games" that BioWare implemented.

Modifié par bjdbwea, 20 mars 2010 - 07:24 .

[Spectre_Moncy]

True. Planet-Scanning sucks too much. I get this very uncomfortable feeling when I'm doing it. I get this dreadful feeling everytime I enter a system with undiscovered planets. Casey, You even notice this? No. $$$ blocks your eyes to this annoying mini-game.

[spacehamsterZH]

I hate the planet scanner as much as the next guy, but come on people, the only advantage the eleventy dozen copy/pasted versions of the Mako mission had was that you could basically skip them altogether if you wanted to. We're talking about a grand total of three or four terrain textures and about the same amount of different building models repeated ad nauseam here. The planet sidequests in ME2 are clearly better, and no, they're not all shooter levels, anyone who says that needs to play the damn game instead of talking about it on the internet.



I've said it before, I'll say it again - automate full planet scans to locate anomalies with reduced mineral yield (because you don't have to work for it anymore), add more loot and random drops from killed enemies to missions. Problem solved.

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

The best part of the orbital scanning minigame is how easy it is to hack with the savegame editor.

[Fraevar]

I like the scanning. Especially on PC, because I can just up the mouse-sensitivity. As for it being "strangely addictive" I can vouch for that - never moved on from a planet until it read Poor/Depleted

[WilliamShatner]

You know what else is addictive? Heroin.



In fact most things at are addictive aren't actually good for you.

[TJSolo]

spacehamsterZH wrote...

I hate the planet scanner as much as the next guy, but come on people, the only advantage the eleventy dozen copy/pasted versions of the Mako mission had was that you could basically skip them altogether if you wanted to. We're talking about a grand total of three or four terrain textures and about the same amount of different building models repeated ad nauseam here. The planet sidequests in ME2 are clearly better, and no, they're not all shooter levels, anyone who says that needs to play the damn game instead of talking about it on the internet.

I've said it before, I'll say it again - automate full planet scans to locate anomalies with reduced mineral yield (because you don't have to work for it anymore), add more loot and random drops from killed enemies to missions. Problem solved.

you **** about ME1 planets and then call planet scanning better?
You do know every single damn planet you scan in ME2 is the same exact damn shape and size with a different texture.
The size when you scan it is the same no matter how big the planet actually is.
Planet scanning is the biggest copy/paste F U there is in the ME series.

[MadLaughter]

Planet Scanning is a good feature. It was just too slow. Fix that and we're good.

[Trauma3x]

if I want a good nap I planet scan. It's better than Nytol!

zzzzzz.zzz.zz

[Trauma3x]

I guess if you call sleep strangly addictive lol

[eternalnightmare13]

I don't even bother with planet scanning after my first time. Using imported characters I have enough to do the majority of upgrades and skip stuff like heavy weapons, or upgrades for the probes, and fuel.

[glacier1701]

Still no link to this article? Been trying to find it myself but dont see it anywhere so far.

[Doctor_Jackstraw]

I don't get all the EA hate. they're pretty alright these days. If Jeff Green said it then it must be true.  (I'm being serious EA is alright, it's Activision that are the jerkbutts these days)

Modifié par Doctor_Jackstraw, 20 mars 2010 - 10:36 .

[Darth Drago]

spacehamsterZH wrote...

The planet sidequests in ME2 are clearly better, and no, they're not all shooter levels, anyone who says that needs to play the damn game instead of talking about it on the internet.

-Do you mean these waste of time missions that take less than a few minutes to do? Guess you’ll just love the Hammerhead Firewalker download as well.

N7: Endangered Research Station -Turn on the shield and oh that’s it?
N7: Mining the Canyon -Power up the YMIR mech with conveniently placed power cells for every 20 feet it walked.
N7: MSV Estevanico -Walk around a rusted out wreck to get picked up by the shuttle at the target location.
N7: Quarian Crash Site - Protect the Quarian for a few seconds on a very short level.
N7: Eclipse Smuggling Depot -Aria’s reward quest. Kill the 3 Mechs before they destroy the crates.

[defunkti]

I bet Hudson just talked to some brown-nose reporters who wanted to please him.

Simple as that.

[exxxed]

defunkti wrote...

I bet Hudson just talked to some brown-nose reporters who wanted to please him.
Simple as that.

There are enough brown-nosers here on this very forum, i bet they have a cult with Hudson as their leader...

Wait... that actually makes sense. UNC: Father Casey xD

[Doctor_Jackstraw]

oh man darth drago you just listed my 5 top tier quests

[yowave]

It's fine, found my own way to scan planets really fast, no i am not using any cheats or mods -.-.

Anyway it's fine, it's better than ME1 that's for sure... whoa driving hours in lonely planets and seeing nothing but mountains *_* makes me sick.

[Zlarm]

Yeah as much as I like BioWare games they're not very good at coming out and saying "we messed that up".



Honestly it blows my mind that the scanning minigame even made it into the final game. Given how many people have complained about it, a significant portion of BioWare must have realized it was a bad idea. Did they just not speak up?

[Landline]

Planet scanning addictive? Is this a joke?



Then again, saw a quote from someone else at Bioware admitting that the scanning game went over "like a lead zeppelin"

[TJSolo]

yowave wrote...

It's fine, found my own way to scan planets really fast, no i am not using any cheats or mods -.-.
Anyway it's fine, it's better than ME1 that's for sure... whoa driving hours in lonely planets and seeing nothing but mountains *_* makes me sick.

The topic is pretty much just planet scanning is bad and not addictive.
No need to try and bring in a ME1 comparision; since instead of driving on planets you just scan the same planet...over and over.

[Darth Drago]

Zlarm wrote...

Yeah as much as I like BioWare games they're not very good at coming out and saying "we messed that up".

Honestly it blows my mind that the scanning minigame even made it into the final game. Given how many people have complained about it, a significant portion of BioWare must have realized it was a bad idea. Did they just not speak up?

Going by what I’ve seen in the game with the bugs, redundant pop-ups, text size/readability and a ton of other little things that shouldn’t have been in a final version of the game. My guess is that they used monkeys to play test the game, the developers just ignored any issues that the play testers brought up or maybe both.