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[Suilebhain]

Geeze, Disney does sexier scenes. Hell, even Ash took off the suit. What's up with that?

[screwoffreg]

They are saving the real steamy stuff for ME 3. Sweating, heavy breathing, all that. Its gonna be wild man. Wild.

[Jamelo]

nah they caved in to the Fox news BS. Fox news gets mad at every single thing possible while the politicians they support cheat on their wives and have sex with prostitutes...honestly I would of loved if Bioware came out and gave a subtle F U to fox.

[kelmar6821]

Why does it always have to be that they caved? How about they just made the classier choice?

Besides, having full blown nudity/porn would have meant that there would be a significantly decreased teanager market (parents wouldn't allow it). If that market were decreased then there wouldn't be as much funding for ME3 or DLC's

I'ld rather have a better funded and developed game and story, than interactive smut. That would be the real rip off. (teehee aren't i so punny...)

Modifié par kelmar6821, 20 mars 2010 - 07:18 .

[Fat Headed Wolf]

And I thought we were past this......



And when in the world has Disney done "sexier" scenes?



Of course some people may respond that the game is rated M (in the US at least), but I think that just furthers my point. It is rated M...... as in Mature...... as in we should be Mature enough not to think its a rip-off just 'cuz uz don't get see some boobage. (or side boobage; as it may be)

[david46]

Movies have scenes simulating sex, some with items of clothing being worn. Maybe Bioware's contract with the voice actor stipulated no pixelated naughty bits. None of the male characters were naked either so I guess fair is fair. No naked boobs for the males and no naked buns for the females seems fair to me.

[CmdrFenix83]

kelmar6821 wrote...

Why does it always have to be that they caved? How about they just made the classier choice?

Besides, having full blown nudity/porn would have meant that there would be a significantly decreased teanager market (parents wouldn't allow it). If that market were decreased then there wouldn't be as much funding for ME3 or DLC's

I'ld rather have a better funded and developed game and story, than interactive smut. That would be the real rip off. (teehee aren't i so punny...)

classier?  The scenes in the first Mass Effect were *far* more tasteful and romantic than this series of clothed dry-humping we have in ME2.  Almsot every single sex scene here has much more emphasis on just the sex than any form of romantic attachment.  I have no idea how you could equate cheesy '70's porn intros to 'classy'.

Modifié par CmdrFenix83, 20 mars 2010 - 07:37 .

[kelmar6821]

I wasn't comparing ME2 to ME1, i was comparing current ME2 to ME2 with nudity.

I think you are mostly thinking of the Miranda scene, but you denounce all the scenes. Most of the other scenes were much more tasteful than Miranda's.

Modifié par kelmar6821, 20 mars 2010 - 07:31 .

[Fat Headed Wolf]

CmdrFenix83 wrote...

kelmar6821 wrote...

Why does it always have to be that they caved? How about they just made the classier choice?

Besides, having full blown nudity/porn would have meant that there would be a significantly decreased teanager market (parents wouldn't allow it). If that market were decreased then there wouldn't be as much funding for ME3 or DLC's

I'ld rather have a better funded and developed game and story, than interactive smut. That would be the real rip off. (teehee aren't i so punny...)

classier?  The scenes in the first Mass Effect were *far* more tasteful and romantic than this series of clothed dry-humping we have in ME2.  Almsot every single sex scene here has much more emphasis on just the sex than any form of romantic attachment.  I have no idea how you could equate cheesy '07's porn intros to 'classy'.

"Did anyone one order a pizza? With extra sausage?"

"I'm a plumber. I'm here to lay down some pipe."

"Did you call the cable company? I got a lot of cable running out here."

Come on, they were not nearly as bad a '70's pornos.

Oh, and be prepared to be bombarded by Talimancers claiming Tali's romance was the most touching and emotional scene in an interactive and/ or viewing dimension.

[CmdrFenix83]

kelmar6821 wrote...

I wasn't comparing ME2 to ME1, i was comparing current ME2 to ME2 with nudity

There was nothing 'classy' about ME2's sex scenes.  Some of them didn't show any scene, others were like frantic, hormone-raging teenagers.  Not to mention the build up for most of them also revolved around 'Hey, let's ****!'  'Okay!'  They were a huge step backwards from the ones in the first game.

It's obvious BioWare was impacted heavily by that Faux News report.  First DA:O's comically hilarious 'undie-sex', and now this. 

Stuff like this makes me hate this country:
graphjam.com/2010/03/02/funny-graphs-tv-censorship/

[CmdrFenix83]

Fat Headed Wolf wrote...

CmdrFenix83 wrote...

kelmar6821 wrote...

Why does it always have to be that they caved? How about they just made the classier choice?

Besides, having full blown nudity/porn would have meant that there would be a significantly decreased teanager market (parents wouldn't allow it). If that market were decreased then there wouldn't be as much funding for ME3 or DLC's

I'ld rather have a better funded and developed game and story, than interactive smut. That would be the real rip off. (teehee aren't i so punny...)

classier?  The scenes in the first Mass Effect were *far* more tasteful and romantic than this series of clothed dry-humping we have in ME2.  Almsot every single sex scene here has much more emphasis on just the sex than any form of romantic attachment.  I have no idea how you could equate cheesy '07's porn intros to 'classy'.

"Did anyone one order a pizza? With extra sausage?"

"I'm a plumber. I'm here to lay down some pipe."

"Did you call the cable company? I got a lot of cable running out here."

Come on, they were not nearly as bad a '70's pornos.

Oh, and be prepared to be bombarded by Talimancers claiming Tali's romance was the most touching and emotional scene in an interactive and/ or viewing dimension.

Note the banner in sig.   Even if she was adorable, at one point she still pounces Shepard like a feline in heat.

[GodWood]

The point of the romances is not so you can see some pixelated nudity.

[CmdrFenix83]

GodWood wrote...

The point of the romances is not so you can see some pixelated nudity.

How many of the 'romances' can you call a romance in ME2?  Thane's you could... Tali's... Garrus's is about 'relieving stress'... Jack's maybe if you go all the way through it.  Miranda's might be, but it's pretty clear that there's issues with that one.  I have no comment on Jacob's because it's the only one I'll never play out.. though I hear the priiiiize was all he was after.  That's what... half of them? Pfft.

[WarChicken78]

I'm with the crowd that says nudity isn't a vital part in a game.
But I'm always wondering about american morales.
It's perfectly ok to see the protagonist hit a woman in the face from a short distance, but not to show some skin?
I don't want much to see. I don't want a porn-game, but the lovescene in ME1 was a lot better than what we get in ME2 and the only thing we could see was a boob viewed from the side.
I don't get that.

Modifié par WarChicken78, 20 mars 2010 - 07:49 .

[WarChicken78]

Argh, double post

Modifié par WarChicken78, 20 mars 2010 - 07:48 .

[Tlazolteotl]

CmdrFenix83 wrote...

Miranda's might be, but it's pretty clear that there's issues with that one. 

Miranda's is definitely a romance, in the sense that it's as much of one as she's capable of having.

[CmdrFenix83]

WarChicken78 wrote...

I'm with the crowd that says nudity isn't a vital part in a game.
But I'm always wondering about american morales.
It's perfectly ok to see the protagonist hit a woman in the face from a short distance, but not to show some skin?
I don't want much to see. I don't want a porn-game, but the lovescene in ME1 was a lot better than what we get in ME2 and the only thing we could see was only a boob viewed from the side.
I don't get that.

This is pretty much my point.  Not that I would complain if they took it further, but I would have preferred at least something on the level with ME1.  It's not about the pixelated ******, it's about censorship.  I personally hate any form of censorship when it comes to games, movies, etc. 

BioWare can claim they've taken this path because of 'artistic choice', but it will always come off as caving to the ultra-uptight conservatives(not a bash on everyone with conservative views) that went and made up a massive BS report based on trailer clips to a game not a single one of them played or even watch someone else play.

[Keltoris]

CmdrFenix83 wrote...

classier?  The scenes in the first Mass Effect were *far* more tasteful and romantic than this series of clothed dry-humping we have in ME2.  Almsot every single sex scene here has much more emphasis on just the sex than any form of romantic attachment.  I have no idea how you could equate cheesy '70's porn intros to 'classy'.

This.

ME1's 5 secs of sideboob and then cutting away was a lot more tasteful than Miranda dry-humping you for 30 secs.

[Whereto]

I wonder sometimes.Fox News must be naïve to think that this is such a problem to young views when the internet is there and pretty much a house hold item. Households that cant afford games of this cost still can afford internet sometimes and that mean childern have access to hardcore nudity much worse than a side boob. In the plam of your hands now you can access porn much worse than what Fox was reporting and the fact is this trend is becomeing more popular with the introduction of things like the iphone. What ever is in me3 could not possible be as bad as what i can get in a couple quick taps of my fingers, yet a game is under fire fo what could of been alot worse.



Also you tell me that killing people is so much better than nudity, I dare you lol.

[GodWood]

CmdrFenix83 wrote...

GodWood wrote...

The point of the romances is not so you can see some pixelated nudity.

How many of the 'romances' can you call a romance in ME2?  Thane's you could... Tali's... Garrus's is about 'relieving stress'... Jack's maybe if you go all the way through it.  Miranda's might be, but it's pretty clear that there's issues with that one.  I have no comment on Jacob's because it's the only one I'll never play out.. though I hear the priiiiize was all he was after.  That's what... half of them? Pfft.

IMO:
Thane: Is a romance and a tragic one at that.
Garrus: I see it as a romance and whether they did get physical or simply talked it out is up to the imagination of the player.
Jack: If you do the casual thing it obviously isn't but if you properly romance her I'd say hers is the most meaningful and deep of all the romances. (my favourite)
Miranda: Personally I wasn't a fan of her romance, it seemed more like a fling than anything.
Jacob: I guess you could take this either way as depending on certain choices you make he'll say he loves Shepard but you can also have him not say that and still have the scene.

[Raanz]

Seriously, some of you need to get off of the Fox News thing. I am sure it had very little to do with why they left out nudity. If it did, then BW is to blame....shame on them for one 2 minute report influencing their decisions in regards to their product.

I guess it's cool to hate fox news.

[Lemonwizard]

CmdrFenix83 wrote...

kelmar6821 wrote...

I wasn't comparing ME2 to ME1, i was comparing current ME2 to ME2 with nudity

There was nothing 'classy' about ME2's sex scenes.  Some of them didn't show any scene, others were like frantic, hormone-raging teenagers.  Not to mention the build up for most of them also revolved around 'Hey, let's ****!'  'Okay!'  They were a huge step backwards from the ones in the first game.

It's obvious BioWare was impacted heavily by that Faux News report.  First DA:O's comically hilarious 'undie-sex', and now this. 

Stuff like this makes me hate this country:
graphjam.com/2010/03/02/funny-graphs-tv-censorship/

I don't know where you got your rose tinted glasses, but I don't recall the "build up" of "I met Liara 1 mission ago and now she's suddenly talking about this connection she thinks we have and awkwardly explaining how her species has sex" being much better. Not insinuating the ME2 build up was fantastic either, but calling it a huge step backwards suggests to me you've not played ME1 in a while.

[Goodwood]

The purpose of Faux News is to be the carnival clown, the over-the-top distraction that draws your attention away from the behind-the-scenes work of the neoconservative movement (the goal of which is to turn America into a fascist corporate state). They know full well that every syllable they broadcast is absolute bollocks, and they make every effort to maintain that charade.



Just FYI.