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The Origin of the Reapers


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Maybe I'm not the first one with this theory, but I just played ME1 and ME2 again and payed a LOT of attention to everything related to the Reapers and came up with a detailed and reasonable theory on what the Reapers are, their origin and what we might expect in the future considering the Reapers and the story of Mass Effect (3).

No, this is not another lame far fetched theory, I really thought this through. Please bare with me (I'll try to keep this as short as possible).


The origin of the Reapers:


The reapers are machines, but they still have organic tissue and they recuire a lot of DNA to be created. In order to make a human reaper, they had to blend countless human bodies into a big milkshake. But why? Why would a machine have organic tissue? The only answer I can come up with is: Because they where once organics themselves.

Yes, that's right, the Reapers where once simple organics like you and me. They where once no different than humans, asari, salarians or krogan. A simple organic species and space-faring race.

But then the next question arises:


How did this race became the first Reapers?


This organic race was propably really smart, smarter than any of the current space-faring species (humans, asari,
turians, etc). While at the pinnacle of their evolution, they discovered the technology to create their own mass-effect fields and create devices that could manipulate space and time. These devices eventually became the mass-relays.

Finally, their last and best piece of technology, would have been the ability to make themselves immortal. With their technology they forced evolution upon themselves, turning themselves into immortal beings with their advanced technology and in the end the very first Reaper.

But...


What about the 50.000 years cycle?


The organic species they once where do no longer exist. They don't even look like the race they once where. Most likely all of them eventually became Reapers, but if we see how many human lifes it takes to make a modern Reaper, we can say that they probably started with only a few Reapers.

After depleting the entire galaxy, they went to dark space to look for new resources. When they finally returned to The Milky Way they discovered a new space-faring race had arised by using their technology they left behind (the mass-relays). Which gave the Reapers a plan, the plan of the 50.000 years cycle. And so the "endless" cycle of "salvation through destruction" began.

So...


What now?

Well, the first thigh that I came to mind after writing down this theory was the human Reaper. obviously we where supposed to become the newest Reaper and join them in their immortal "godly" life. But what if The Illusive Man found out about this? What if TIM somehow knew all of this? Didn't he talk about placing humanity "on top of the food chain"?

Well, I fear that TIM would think that immortality is not such a bad thing. In fact, I think in some way TIM already is immortal with tech similar to those of the Reapers. And what if you saved the Collector's Base at the end of ME2... god know what he's up to...


Well, I guess we'll find out after ME3...

Modifié par Luc0s, 20 mars 2010 - 11:10 .


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Your theory has merit, but i doubt Bioware is going to pull the "The Reapers are actually good guys, Saren was right after all!" trick on us, it doesn't fit in with the whole "Galactic Extinction Cycle" thing, i mean, why would the reapers kill all of the organic life forms, wouldn't it be more effective to let them all reproduce and steadily create more reapers?

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Gre3nham wrote...

Your theory has merit, but i doubt Bioware is going to pull the "The Reapers are actually good guys, Saren was right after all!" trick on us, it doesn't fit in with the whole "Galactic Extinction Cycle" thing, i mean, why would the reapers kill all of the organic life forms, wouldn't it be more effective to let them all reproduce and steadily create more reapers?


I never said a organic species that want immortallity and kill entire races to add new Reapers to their fleet are good guys.

I mean, that doesn't sound very "good guy" to me, does it?

They kill all organic species because they only take the best to turn into Reapers. The rest of the races are useless, to they'll "clean them up" to make room for new species. It makes perfect sense.

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Luc0s wrote...

After depleting the entire galaxy, they went to dark space to look for
new resources.


They don't seem very smart if they thought this was a good idea.

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Two threads? Really? *sigh*

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This theory sounds a little good, but then again, I have getting more drunk.



But yes, I really, *really* hope Bioware actually reveals Reaper's secret rather than making some half-assed ending that leaves more qiestions than answers.

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Mcjon01 wrote...

Luc0s wrote...

After depleting the entire galaxy, they went to dark space to look for
new resources.


They don't seem very smart if they thought this was a good idea.


Well, maybe they tried to go to another galaxy but decided it was just way to far? Who knows. Ar some point they must have decided to add new numbers to their fleet. But what can you expect from an arrogant, greedy and immortal race that sees themselves as gods?

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Mallissin wrote...

Two threads? Really? *sigh*


The other thread can be locked because it was accidently posted in the classES forum, while this thread obviously belongs in the Quest and Storyline forum.

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Luc0s wrote...

What about the 50.000 years cycle?

The organic species they once where do no longer exist. They don't even look like the race they once where. Most likely all of them eventually became Reapers, but if we see how many human lifes it takes to make a modern Reaper, we can say that they probably started with only a few Reapers.

After depleting the entire galaxy, they went to dark space to look for new resources. When they finally returned to The Milky Way they discovered a new space-faring race had arised by using their technology they left behind (the mass-relays). Which gave the Reapers a plan, the plan of the 50.000 years cycle. And so the "endless" cycle of "salvation through destruction" began.


I believe the truth is much simpler - Reapers are just afraid that other species could surpass them technically, so they come back every now and then to nullify all advanced life. 
That rises a questions - why not wipe ALL life (down to viruses) in galaxy, or blow galaxy up or something? Or why do they harvest at all?

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gloowacz wrote...

Luc0s wrote...

What about the 50.000 years cycle?

The organic species they once where do no longer exist. They don't even look like the race they once where. Most likely all of them eventually became Reapers, but if we see how many human lifes it takes to make a modern Reaper, we can say that they probably started with only a few Reapers.

After depleting the entire galaxy, they went to dark space to look for new resources. When they finally returned to The Milky Way they discovered a new space-faring race had arised by using their technology they left behind (the mass-relays). Which gave the Reapers a plan, the plan of the 50.000 years cycle. And so the "endless" cycle of "salvation through destruction" began.


I believe the truth is much simpler - Reapers are just afraid that other species could surpass them technically, so they come back every now and then to nullify all advanced life. 
That rises a questions - why not wipe ALL life (down to viruses) in galaxy, or blow galaxy up or something? Or why do they harvest at all?


Either:

A) They're not as immortal that they don't need resources at all. So maybe they still need resources to stay alive.

B) They do it for fun. They like playing god and adding new (better?) Reapers to their fleet. For the same reason we watch TV or play video-games, they play "the 50.000 cycle game".

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They were once a telepathic species. When a black hole was created after a sun was completely drained of dark energy, it threatened to swallow their entire galaxy. To survive and escape with their whole civilization, they ascended. Became part machine. Their whole society existing in one mind. Similar to the Geth. Their galaxy became Dark Space, completely devoid of just about everything. Then they found our galaxy, found that living as a ship isn't as practical, nor easy as they had anticipated. They sought to engineer a species that they could descend into, telepathically through the indoctrination. They created the Mass Relays and the Citadel, in order to coerce space-faring species to adopt and grow along the paths they require. When it is clear that a certain species is unable to become something the Reapers can use, they save the civilization. Turning them into a Reaper like them, as well as purging the galaxy of their existence. So they can start again.

My theory. It's not very good.

Modifié par Gar_Logan, 21 mars 2010 - 12:12 .