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[Thalorin1919]

I also believe that DA-2 is going to be a different story and character and all that. I love all my Origin-Awakening companions and the story, but you can only drag on something so far.



BUT I do believe we will see one or even two more expansions for Origins. Morrigan and her child will come up again soon, whether it be expansion or sequel. And all of our wardens leave - with my Morrigan romance I end up going to Orlais. I'm sure alot of people who didnt romance her travel with there love interests anyway to Orlais.



Morrigan went to Orlais no-matter what you did in Origins. I'm expecting this in an expansion.

[Pwnzor326]

I thought they would continue the Warden storyline by doing something with the Architect maybe helping him stop the blight for good?

edit: Crap I forgot that you have the option to kill him in Awakening so I don't know if they would do that.

Modifié par Pwnzor326, 21 mars 2010 - 05:21 .

[BanksHector]

If they undid the US ending, I do not see why they cannot undo you killing him lol. So anything is possible.

[Thor Rand Al]

I don't see how being able to play your Warden from Origin's would hurt DA2. Unless the game is either before or way after Origin's. But if they have it maybe 20 yrs why not have my character play. And the ending could be where you've got to deal with your Calling. If Bioware would either make an expansion or a game where at the end you have to deal with that it would make a lot of people happy because they are getting the closure they want, me included. I hope and wish it can be done.

The thing is we have no clue on what DA2 is about. It could be about some of the decision's we made from both game's, it could be about Morrigan's child, it could be about having to stop Weisshaupt fortress trying to take over Ferelden and you have to stop that even though you are a Warden yourself (which I still like that idea from whoever mentioned it yesterday on a different post.)



As far as saying it would hurt well lets wait until they start announcing details about the game.



But regardless of what Bioware decides to do I will be very happy and content with because DA is my ultimate favorite game, expansion's, DLC's and all. And Bioware does a dang good job of delivering us some excellent games.

[Hamarabi2006]

How about you play as new character that helps your exact Origins character defeat a new Darkspawn problem? Your exact origins character, all the way down to looks, alignment, decisions, event outcomes all carry over, but you don't control that character this time. They are the hero and you just help that character to do what they do best, kill darkspawn and demons. You'll be your own character's sidekick! Or maybe you are sent out by the Commander of the Grey to do all the missions with a new bunch of recruits.

I think it would be interesting and fun to see your own origins PC, especially if they were crowned King or Queen, become an NPC with a voice, one that you adventure with and/or advise throughout the next game. Of course you would have to be able to advise the NPC version of your Origins character on every major decision.

I don't know, maybe that's a dumb idea. Probably, a lot of folks would not like it.

P.S.  They will probably have a new adventure, still within the Dragon Age, but after your Warden had long passed away.  I'm fine with whatever they plan to do.  

Modifié par Hamarabi2006, 21 mars 2010 - 06:41 .

[BanksHector]

I got a idea but have no idea how good it is. Maybe make it where you import you old Warden and you do kinda like a Duncan role where you can pick someone to enlist in the Warden's and you see the origin of that character from you old character. Then on you way back to where you are to undertake the joining you get ambushed and your old warden gives his live while saving yours. So  the person you enlist escapes and gets to where you was going and tells them what has happen and you become that character. Kinda like him pasting the touch to you because he saw something special in you.

Modifié par BanksHector, 21 mars 2010 - 06:08 .

[Thor Rand Al]

Hamarabi2006 wrote...

How about you play as new character that helps your exact Origins character defeat a new Darkspawn problem? Your exact origins character, all the way down to looks, alignment, decisions, event outcomes all carry over, but you don't control that character this time. They are the hero and you just help that character to do what they do best, kill darkspawn and demons. You'll be your own character's sidekick! Or maybe you are sent out by the Commander of the Grey to do all the missions with a new bunch of recruits.
 

Lol has a game ever done that?  It might be interesting to see

[PJLara]

This might be considered off-topic but why in the world are we already discussing DA2 when the story of the Warden can be continued in another expansion or two?

Did I miss some announcement from Bioware or EA that there wouldn't be any further expansions apart from Awakening?

Both NWN and NWN2 had 2 major expansions and, in the case of the former, there were fantastic mods from the community. I just don't understand this desire for a 2.0 version when the 1.0 version came out in December and hasn't even been fully utilized yet.

Have Bioware even announced that they are already developing the DA2?

Besides, other than the storyline, DA2 should have some technical changes or notable updates to the game engine for it to be worthy of a 2.0 designation. At the very least, I imagine the new DA2 will take advantage of at the latest multi-core technologies and the newer graphics processors that both ATI and nVidia are bringing to the market.

That said, the current engine seems pretty robust and the graphics are far from dated so I can't imagine that there will be a need to move so far away from the core of the current game.

Modifié par PJLara, 21 mars 2010 - 06:40 .

[Hamarabi2006]

@PJLara
There was an announcement about Dragon Age 2 being released in February of 2011, I believe.

Modifié par Hamarabi2006, 21 mars 2010 - 06:46 .

[Special_Agent_Goodwrench]

Hamarabi2006 wrote...

How about you play as new character that helps your exact Origins character defeat a new Darkspawn problem? Your exact origins character, all the way down to looks, alignment, decisions, event outcomes all carry over, but you don't control that character this time. They are the hero and you just help that character to do what they do best, kill darkspawn and demons. You'll be your own character's sidekick! Or maybe you are sent out by the Commander of the Grey to do all the missions with a new bunch of recruits.

I think it would be interesting and fun to see your own origins PC, especially if they were crowned King or Queen, become an NPC with a voice, one that you adventure with and/or advise throughout the next game. Of course you would have to be able to advise the NPC version of your Origins character on every major decision.

I don't know, maybe that's a dumb idea. Probably, a lot of folks would not like it.

P.S.  They will probably have a new adventure, still within the Dragon Age, but after your Warden had long passed away.  I'm fine with whatever they plan to do.  

It's an interesting idea but I think that many will agree if I say it'll be difficult (if not impossible) for Bioware to give "our" Warden the personalities we gave her/him.

That said, I still want to continue the story with my Warden. He story doesn't feel finished. She still did not live up to her promise of traveling somewhere with Leliana, nor does she think of taking her eye off the Architect anytime soon.

[Thalorin1919]

PJLara wrote...

This might be considered off-topic but why in the world are we already discussing DA2 when the story of the Warden can be continued in another expansion or two?

Did I miss some announcement from Bioware or EA that there wouldn't be any further expansions apart from Awakening?

Both NWN and NWN2 had 2 major expansions and, in the case of the former, there were fantastic mods from the community. I just don't understand this desire for a 2.0 version when the 1.0 version came out in December and hasn't even been fully utilized yet.

Have Bioware even announced that they are already developing the DA2?

Besides, other than the storyline, DA2 should have some technical changes or notable updates to the game engine for it to be worthy of a 2.0 designation. At the very least, I imagine the new DA2 will take advantage of at the latest multi-core technologies and the newer graphics processors that both ATI and nVidia are bringing to the market.

That said, the current engine seems pretty robust and the graphics are far from dated so I can't imagine that there will be a need to move so far away from the core of the current game.

I think I heard on IGN that they said they interviewed a developer for Dragon Age or something, and they said they were going to make a new engine for Dragon Age 2

[Ash Wind]

I disagree greatly, and I am not sure it has to be an 'all or nothing proposition. Seems to me that DA:A covered all bases by allowing you to import a character, or allowing you to create a new one.

My Character (for example) is the Hero of Ferelden as well as a Grey Warden. There is nothing stating that he can only fight darkspawn, he in fact does quite well against dragons, bandits and assorted other critters and gansters. The characters already created can do a great many things and go in different directions.

A New Game doesn't have to import my current character abilities. Writers are only limited by the scope of their imaginations, and there can be any number of viable (in a suspention of disbelif sort of way) reasons to start the charater off from scratch from an attributes and ablities sort of way.

And in my opinion, it would be lame heaped on top of lame for me, to play a different character dealing with Morrigan and Baby Old God. There doesn't have to be a happy ending, but there should be 'An' Ending. My Character, My Baby... My Ending.

[Sarah1281]

If they undid the US ending, I do not see why they cannot undo you killing him lol. So anything is possible.

They hardly undid it; there's no save for after the funeral so if you died the decisions can't be imported. They created the Orlesian Warden to take the place of the US character.

[Behindyounow]

Cancermeat wrote...

BTW has anybody speculated that we will be playing the Morrigan\\\\\\\\Warden child in 2?

Hopefully not. Why?

• No different Origins.
• No different races. You have to be human.
• It makes the dark ritual canon.

[Fault Girl]

I won't mind, as long as there is another expansion or something to tie up the ending more nicely. Wasn't pleased with how Awakening just said my character went off for no reason! Loved Awakening, but the ending was just so abrupt, make me feel like "what the hell?!"

[SDNcN]

Thalorin1919 wrote...

Ithink I heard on IGN that they said they interviewed a developer for Dragon Age or something, and they said they were going to make a new engine for Dragon Age 2

No just updating the existing engine.
http://www.joystiq.c...look-super-hot/

Hamarabi2006 wrote...

@PJLara
There was an announcement about Dragon Age 2 being released in February of 2011, I believe.

It hasn't been announced actually, they just included a piece of paper with that date along with the boxed
version of Awakening. It could be anything. One of the gaming sites said an EA employee told them could even be an iphone game.

Ash Wind wrote...

I disagree greatly, and I am not sure it has to be an 'all or nothing proposition. Seems to me that DA:A covered all bases by allowing you to import a character, or allowing you to create a new one.

The problem with a “best of both worlds”solution for importing your character is that by covering all the bases resources are also divided up.

It would have been interesting to see how Awakening would have turned out if the Orlesian Warden was the
only playable character or if they dropped the Orlesian altogether and focused on the Origins PC.

Without the need to create separate dialogue differentiating the two possible Wardens they could have fleshed out the Orlesian and the distrust of the locals much more. The same is true for the Warden, without need to account for the possibility the character isn't the hero of Ferleden there might had been more a connection to the events of the main campaign and may have been more cameos from known characters.

My Character (for example) is the Hero of Ferelden as well as a Grey Warden. There is nothing stating that
he can only fight darkspawn, he in fact does quite well against dragons, bandits and assorted other critters and gansters. The characters already created can do a great many things and go in different directions.

As I have been asking, is there some unresolved plotline (Ex. Baalspawn & Reapers) other than Morrigan that would require the Origins PC? Is it enough to last another full campaign or even multiple sequels?

There hasn't been anything introduced yet into Dragon Age that would explain the PC being included into another game other than they repeated use of ambiguity in regards of their ultimate fate.

Modifié par SDNcN, 21 mars 2010 - 09:51 .

[1079036]

I definitely think that in Dragon age 2, you will be able to continue with your original warden.

Why? because of the epilogue in awakening.



"Some years later, the savior of Ferelden vanished entirely. Nobody knows for what purpose she departed, yet neither does anyone think her tale is complete."



BTW, my warden married Alistair and became the queen. There's absolutely no reason that she'll just vanish. Unless, of course, they are paving the way to Dragon Age 2.

[cactusmaac1]

It will probably be a new character in DA 2, similar to how they got Revan to disappear after KOTOR 1. I'm fine with that since we've barely seen anything of Thedas and it would be good to build up a whole new character, with a different backstory and all-new relationships.

[Aviena]

1079036 wrote...
BTW, my warden married Alistair and became the queen. There's absolutely no reason that she'll just vanish. Unless, of course, they are paving the way to Dragon Age 2.

For real. <_< Too KotoR II for my taste.

[UnAffectedFiddle]

Set in the future, Tevinter. Arguable birthplace of the first magisters and they used to be worshippers of the old gods. Add the Architect and the decadence of a nation on the decline and well...epic adventure in a land where there is slavery, decadence, tyranny and mages flipping off the Templars and part of the Chantry (since they like their Imperial Chantry who dont see mages as a blight).



Number of things they will make canon imho:

1. Morrigan had a baby.

2. Architect lives.

3. Alistair is king.



It has a sort of Bhaalspawn feeling to it, but its set in a much grimmer world and your character has huge obstacles in that:



1. Architect wants him.

2. Grey Wardens may decide he needs to die.

3. Templars loathe him.

4. Spirits/demons are likely drawn to him.



It opens up wonderful story elements:



1. Exploring the original darkspawn origins, hello...daddy?

2. Exploring the fade.

3. Rebellion.

4. Will your character fight to save people who abhor him.



The catch, well you see your conscripted into the Wardens as Darkspawn are growing in numbers around Tevinter and an attack is stage din your area (they are really just trying to find you) and your skills are shown in the battle (your harboring an old god spirit, its in your blood...). Cue you get the darkspawn blood to drink and...



OH ****.



Adventure really begins there...

[Liquidcz]

SDNcN wrote...

Continuing the Grey Warden will hurt DA:2

No, it won't, for reasons stated in this a the rest of threads on the same subject. I respect your opinion that YOU don't want to play the warden again, but it certainly wouldn't HURT DA 2. Besides, arguing about this is pointless, because things as basic as "who is the protagonist of DA 2" have surely been decided by BW long ago.

[blademaster7]

You know, I rather like the idea of Grey Wardens becoming the antagonists.

Think about it. They use your accomplishments as an excuse to take over Thedas and enforce their own law and order. Since there are no darkspawn to go after, they end up getting involved with politics and no one can do anything about it. Who's gonna stop them anyway? After the blight they all end up feeling like gods.

EDIT: Just to be clear. That doesn't necessarily mean you have to play as a GW. You could just be a nobody that tries to climb up to the top(as usual).

Modifié par blademaster7, 21 mars 2010 - 11:22 .

[SDNcN]

Liquidcz wrote...

No, it won't, for reasons stated in this a the rest of threads on the same subject. I respect your opinion that YOU don't want to play the warden again, but it certainly wouldn't HURT DA 2. Besides, arguing about this is pointless, because things as basic as "who is the protagonist of DA 2" have surely been decided by BW long ago.

Who exactly has been arguing in this thread?
The posts have been discussing whether or not the Warden's story should be concluded in DA:O and it's expanded content or if it is viable to continue it into DA:2. And if it is, then well how do they do it.

Modifié par SDNcN, 21 mars 2010 - 11:31 .

[Behindyounow]

The next game will likely not be about the Darkspawn. So, no need for Grey Wardens. They're not Spectres who fight any kind of evil, they only fight Darkspawn.

[Seraphism]

I'd like a Dragon Age: Infinite dungeons expansion. Like the NWN one but with the deep roads as the dungeon. Once the PC from DA:O gets "the calling" and heads to the deep roads to kill darkspawn before s/he dies. Basically an old school dungeon crawl with current pc.

Also wouldn't mind seeing another story/plotline based expansion for current PC but I think considering how combat was in awakenings due to level 30+ characters and the fact that bandits now drop better gear then King Cailan had i'd prefer DA 2 at least to be a new character.