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[SDNcN]

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

So because Mass Effect is a trilogy and DA isn't means they won't include PC in the next game? What? And because they rant a bunch of random stuff about the symbolic meaning of the DA:O name? huh?...

It is called Dragon age: ORIGINS because it is just that: The origins of a hero. His story is not yet told.

I was responding to your assertion that the name was due to it being the Origins of a hero that would be used in future titles. It wasn't.

Seriously do you honestly believe they would even bother making a whole goddamn bunch of hard and interesting choices if less of the hard ones (ie. the actually impactful ones like sideing with templars(mages elves/werewolves) wont even get imported to the next game?

As noted by Vicious, Bioware has a history of establishing canon endings.

What possible plotline can you imagine going on in some other palces than ferelden where people would actulaly give two pots of ****** about what happend to a bunch of Dalish Elves in eastern Ferelden? Or what happened to the Ferelden Circle? or for that matter ven who is regent of the land?
The easiest way to have all those chocies have any meaningful impact on the story would be to include the PC in the next games: FOr instance the Dalish of Orlais won't like you because you killed an entire clan in Ferelden, or the circle will like you because you settled problems they had a few years ago.

You just answered your own question.

Modifié par SDNcN, 26 mars 2010 - 04:46 .

[Brockololly]

If the writers and folks at Bioware want the Warden to be the hero in DA2, then the Warden will be the hero in DA2. If they want DA2 to be about us fighting flying monkeys in Antiva as a mutant pirate, then thats what they'll do. They can come up with any story reason they want to either have or not have the Warden return, or have Morrigan return or have the Warden go off to a distant corner of Thedas.

So, I have no clue- it could go either way, but I don't think having the Warden return for DA2 would be a bad thing- my Warden has unfinished business with Morrigan.

As for the whole Dragon Age being a "franchise" deal, sure they aren't going to stick with one hero like Shepard. But that doesn't preclude them from having the Warden come back for DA2 and then go off for a new hero in DA3-6 and then a new hero for DA7-12. Who knows what they have planned?

I'm all for exploring different areas of Thedas with different characters and PC's but for me, its the characters that make Bioware games and IMO, especially if you did the Dark Ritual, there seems to be more to do with the Warden and some of the characters of Origins.



But I'm sure Bioware has taken player choices into account to some extent in how they're going to approach future content since they'll know exactly what percentage of players did the Ritual or sacrificed themselves and all that. Thats the interesting sort of info I'd love to hear about.

[Zulmoka531]

Quite frankly, I hope DA2 ends though whole Darkspawn thing (as in finds a way to stop them permanently). I personally just don't like the fact that every Warden ends up either a ghoul or dead from the "taint". Reminds me too much of the whole Bhaal spawn thing in Baldur's Gate.



I would like to import my warden(s), especially after finishing Awakenings, but I don't think I would be too hurt if they weren't the star of DA2, and maybe merely mentioned.



I'd like to think my actions in my various playthroughs would leave some sort of impact on the future of Ferelden akin to what Mass Effect hopes to achieve with their import features.

[Behindyounow]

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

Seriously do you honestly believe they would even bother making a whole goddamn bunch of hard and interesting choices if less of the hard ones (ie. the actually impactful ones like sideing with templars(mages elves/werewolves) wont even get imported to the next game?
 

See Mass Effect 2. Mass Effect was touted at letting the player's decisions have consequences in the sequel. Look at how that turned out.

If Mass Effect cant even do it right, do you honestly think Dragon Age will?

Also, if the rumours are to be believed, then the Darkspawn wont be the main focus of the next game. Which means there is no point in carrying the Warden forward.

And finally, the origin stories were among the best part of the first game. Not having them in the sequel would be pretty dumb.

[Fallstar]

Personally, I'd like a few more DLC related to origins/awakening, possibly with one where you're warden evetually goes to Orzammar, and you have to fight off waves and waves of darkspawn before eventually succumbing. That would be a great DLC, adn would finish off Origins/Awakening quite nicely in preparation for DA:2

[Xandurpein]

The main reason why I think that Dragon Age 2 needs to be about a new protagonist is simply that there are already too many permutations of possible endings from DA:O to reasonably account for. Look at all the pages of people complaining about how Awakening doesn't properly account for this and that for their character. The only way you can continue the story of the hero form DA:O is to create a situation where everyone's character is forced into roughly the same situation, like in Awakening, anything else is just a nightmare to plot and finance.

Some people want more time to develop relations with their companions and love interests. I don't think it's a route really worth pursuing. I can understand the wish to cling to the feel of the romance in DA:O, but you can't keep that feeling meaningfully after the big "I love you". The strength of the game romances is that it is about discovering the companions and falling in love with them, winning them if you wish. Any continuation would be about maintaining the relationship, something can be very well worth in real life, but doesn't translate well into fiction. There is a reason why almost all romantic novels end when the happy couple finally get each other. There is a reason why all the romances of Mass Effect were absent from ME2 so they can be reset in ME3. If there is anything Bioware understand, it's which stories that work.

This doesn't mean I don't want to see a continuation of my characters adventures, of course I do. I just realize that it's not possible, unless they are willing to create a huge amount content that is exclusive to characters with a particular ending. You can force a canon story, but that would just ruin everything. I would no longer be playing my Hero, I would be playing someone else hero, who happen to be using my character's face.

I would love it if they could release some content that gave each character a proper closure, regardless of whether their character was King or rode alone and obscure into the sunset, but it would no doubt be very expensive for just a few hours of content if they are to get all the VA of the original caste and all the possible endings available together. I would even pay a lot for it, but I'm not holding my breath. My main character is Prince and the biggest issue I need to know to find closure for this character is whether he can be reasonably happy as Prince of the Realm with Anora or not, but that is a non-issue for anyone who did not become Prince. How much content can I expect to be produced that will cater for my specific story?

I think Dragon Age was meant to be Bioware's own Forgotten Realms. A world to create many different games in, using the same lore.

Modifié par Xandurpein, 26 mars 2010 - 11:59 .

[DragonRageGT]

I think that everything related to Origins should be dealt through DLC's and Expansions. And since there's no technological advance in Thedas over thousands of years (just like in Arda, btw, which I always thought strange too), just how long does it take for another Dragon Year to repeat itself? (can't remember b ut I'm sure that the Codex mentions it)

If DA2 is going to be called Dragon Age, well, the Dragon Age that Origins take place has long ended and it should be at least some years ahead or many Dragon Ages ahead of the Origins time set.

Just like the Year of the Dragon in the Chinese takes 12 years to repeat but the specific elements Dragon takes 60 years before they repeat. Like, I'm a Wood Dragon and those are born in 1914 then 1964. Which one you guess I am? Next Wood Dragon Age is still some 14 years ahead!

[RPGlover732]

I want 2 things from DA2



1. Not to be the same person (hell dont even be a warden!)



2. dont make anytthing canon, that would ruin it for me.



But if i could deal with what happens to morrigans child id do it like this:



(if its your character in DA2)= I would make it so its kinda like an origin

Your character can pick the origin of "god child" and the game will assume that means someone did the dark ritual. But with that orign their are other origins so that means you dont HAVE to be the god child



(If the kid is a companion)= Make it so you miss out on getting that character if you didnt do the dark ritual, as simple as that

[leana78]

I loved DA:O .I really enjoyed RTO and I think DA:Awakening was ok but I don't really care about my PC actually. In fact, I don't mind creating a new PC as long as I meet Loghain again. Call me whatever you want, but I'd go to Orlaïs beeing a Genlock or a even a troll just to meet Loghain again
He told me in Awakening (what a great cameo, thank you Bioware for that!) he had to leave Ferelden to go to Orlaïs...No problem: I'll run to Orlaïs through whatever DLC, extension or DA2 it takes as long as I meet Loghain again ....yes Mister!
Loghain 's cameo in Awakening...in french:(because I am)

Modifié par leana78, 26 mars 2010 - 08:19 .

[SDNcN]

RageGT wrote...

I think that everything related to Origins should be dealt through DLC's and Expansions. And since there's no technological advance in Thedas over thousands of years (just like in Arda, btw, which I always thought strange too), just how long does it take for another Dragon Year to repeat itself? (can't remember b ut I'm sure that the Codex mentions it)
If DA2 is going to be called Dragon Age, well, the Dragon Age that Origins take place has long ended and it should be at least some years ahead or many Dragon Ages ahead of the Origins time set.
Just like the Year of the Dragon in the Chinese takes 12 years to repeat but the specific elements Dragon takes 60 years before they repeat. Like, I'm a Wood Dragon and those are born in 1914 then 1964. Which one you guess I am? Next Wood Dragon Age is still some 14 years ahead!

http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Age

A new age begins every century. The Dragon Age has about 70 years left after the end of Origins.

[Meltemph]

I agree with the OP. What Bioware has here is a setting, with its own lore/history/wars and ect. I do not want Dragon Age to be about my PC, I want it to be about the world of Thedas. I want to watch the story of this world unfold and I want to experience as much of Thedas as possible. I wan't to be a in a living, evolving world, in terms of the game, I don't want it to be a empty setting that I have to fill.



It is one of the main reasons the Forgotten Realms was so popular. It felt like a living, evolving world with a rich history and mythology. If bioware focuses on "carrying choices over" and "recurring characters" they will be extremely limited with the setting/world of Thedas because they will always have to keep our "choices" in mind.