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[Epona222]

Definite NAY for me.



Loved the whole Grey Warden thing, but I'm done with it now and want something new. I like the idea of an Orlesian chevalier, or perhaps political intrigue and assassination set in Antiva.

[Gill Kaiser]

Nay. All you people who are voting 'yay' are feebleminded unimaginative yokels.

[Nerdage]

I'd like to see my current character's story actually end, as in I'd like to play right up to the deep roads suicide thing, but that almost certainly won't happen. It's a little morbid I admit but from the joining you pretty much know that there isn't a happy ending to the story, so "they adventue together still" doesn't offer much closure, and the other endings all seem to leave loads of speculation too.



It's not that I want to keep my current character forever, I just want to know how it ends, so yay.



And that post above was just unnecessary...

[Gill Kaiser]

*Tongue is firmly in cheek*... or IS it?

[Nerdage]

Eli-da-Mage wrote...

Yay!

Surely though if you keep importing people will know you as the one who stopped everything from destroying anything and nobody will ever attack you. Aswell as you being like Lv50 and able to drop the moon on them.

They could always just pull a god of war.
"Having fun with your powers, eh? well... let me just take them off you and you can start all over again."

[J_chambers]

Can I say "meh"

All I want is the story of my main character to have a sense of completion. It can be finished with another expansion or DA2, but I'll leave that up to Bioware.

Modifié par J_chambers, 28 mars 2010 - 05:26 .

[MassEffect762]

nerdage wrote...

I'd like to see my current character's story actually end, as in I'd like to play right up to the deep roads suicide thing, but that almost certainly won't happen. It's a little morbid I admit but from the joining you pretty much know that there isn't a happy ending to the story, so "they adventue together still" doesn't offer much closure, and the other endings all seem to leave loads of speculation too.

It's not that I want to keep my current character forever, I just want to know how it ends, so yay.

I too would actually like to see how it all ends for my Warden.

[Sresla]

Being a Grey Warden does not prohibit me from also being an ultimate badass. Just because I fight darkspawn with extraordinary skill doesn't mean I'm still not a mage with phenomenal cosmic power at my disposal.



Then again, I couldn't give a twig's toot about Morrigan's baby. So if that's where DA:2 is headed... I didn't hate Morrigan, or anything. It was a devil's bargain she presented me with, I resented her for it but had my own reasons for choosing to go through with it. However, my character feels no attachment to any child that results from the union - call me callous if you must (were this real life, I would, doubtless, feel differently).



I might have just started with my summation - so long as Zevran's there (as my LI), yes, continue my old character. Absence of Zevran = lack of interest in importing.

[Rheia]

I might have just started with my summation - so long as Zevran's there (as my LI), yes, continue my old character. Absence of Zevran = lack of interest in importing.

As tempting as it is to agree...



I'd prefer a brand new storyline with a brand new character to make. Maybe in another part of Thedas... and I won't complain if they won't be a Warden either . I think there is enough DA lore for gripping storylines outside the Origins, honestly. Why limit it?

[Eshaye]

The Illusive Paragon wrote...

Didn't the Dragon Age Origins epilogue say that bands of darkspawn were heading for Orlais?

And yay rather continue with my Warden.

I thought that would be an expansion, like Awakening, but bigger. Maybe it is DA2 in which case there's a very good chance the warden's story isn't done yet. 

Personally I can go either way. 

[Xetirox]

Nay. By the end of Origins, the PC is a veritable badass. By the end of Awakening, he's a walking nuke. Any attempt to make a fully playable game to accomodate him (either by making absolutely every fight he engages in a battle of epic proportions, or doing something to zap his level down) would just feel contrived, and as it is, level 20+ gameplay is pretty broken. You're inundated with so many skills and talents/spells than you'll know what to do with, there's just no point in choosing how to develop your characters because they're all capable of everything, and the enemies just can't keep up, regardless of their own capabilities. I would prefer to make a new fellow, at level 1, and build him up again, because that's where half the fun of an RPG comes from.

And concerning story, there's just absolutely no feasible way to fully accomodate each and every Warden adventure across both Origins and and Awakening. There are too many decisions, too many characters, major and minor, for BIoware to make have any meaningful impact. And as we saw with Awakening, they really didn't do an impressive job then; many of the things that happen in the expansion ultimately retcon or trivilalize some of the choices and actions taken in Origins. There's no reason to trust them to do that again. A whole new protagonist in a whole new land at least a few years (or decades) is much more preferable, allows it to distance itself from the original campaign, and allows Bioware to focus on telling a better story, rather than shoehorn it into the current one with sloppy retcons and generalizations. And as it is, the Grey Warden (or Warden-Commander as she's called in Awakening) is just one person. The world of Dragon Age is a lot bigger than her, there's a larger tale at work here, and she's already played her part.

Modifié par Xetirox, 28 mars 2010 - 06:55 .

[Nerdage]

J_chambers wrote...

Can I say "meh"

All I want is the story of my main character to have a sense of completion. It can be finished with another expansion or DA2, but I'll leave that up to Bioware.

Actually, I'd like to change my previous 'yay' to this. Finishing up the current story could probably be done in an expansion, maybe even a dlc. But, as we've been told, add-ons get smaller teams than full games, and, while I've liked all the add-ons so far, I'd hate for the end of the story to see the same reception as some of the add-ons so far.
Why I care how others see it I don't know, it would just be nice to see these forums reach a positive consensus.

[Vulee94]

J_chambers wrote...

Can I say "meh"

All I want is the story of my main character to have a sense of completion. It can be finished with another expansion or DA2, but I'll leave that up to Bioware.

This!

All i want is closure. 

[Malanek]

Nay. I can't see it working. Too many disparate endings and character motivations make for an impossible start point that would appease eveyone. Also need to get rid of all the high level abilities and start from scratch for the good of gameplay.

As much as we were left with some intersting story threads, it would be better to start a new story. I prefer sequels to prequels though so I hope it is in the future. I would also like to see some events that occured in DA:O distantly referred to in a sequel.

[zchen]

I'm no so sure I trust Bioware after seeing how the carry over is handled in ME2 and Awakening

[MassEffect762]

zchen wrote...

I'm no so sure I trust Bioware after seeing how the carry over is handled in ME2 and Awakening

Excellent point.

[Noir201]

I'm not expecting our warden to cross over in next dragon ago, in all but looks, would be nice but as people have said, compare mass effect 2, the plot hook that you died and took two years to rebuild gave bioware a leeway, imagine dragon age 2 "you died but you're rebuild angle.



Wade : Herren, this will make me the most famous crafter in all the world!!!

Herren : what now Wade?

Wade : i have the task of rebuilding the warden!!

Herren : *sigh*

Wade : your just jealous!

[Xetirox]

Lawgunner wrote...

nay, I feel like my Grey Warden's story is over. He already dealt with the blight and the effects of the darkspawn who started the blight. My epilogue said he was traveling to Orlais looking for Morrigan, but that is something not every warden is doing. I really hope the sequel isn't about the old god child of Morrigan's because not everyone did the ritual. It would be like making the plot of Mass Effect 2 fighting the newly risen Rachni army(that would only raise because you spared the queen)

Hate to say it, but there's absolutely no way Bioware can leave that plot thread dangling. It comes at a crucial point in Origins, it's a very important plot point period (Flemeth's plan to make the god-child is the only reason the PC even survived Ostagar in the first place), it's implied to have some very far-reaching ramifications, and all of them are left up in the air. If it's not followed up on, if it's ignored entirely, all in an attempt to appease every possible story path in Origins, then it might as well have never happened in the first place. Not making a big deal of an Old God running around the world would just be ****ing anticlimatic given the weight the decision seemed to have and how it was treated. There will have to be a canon precendent here, it has to be one way or the other; either the Dark Ritual happened, or it didn't.

Modifié par Xetirox, 28 mars 2010 - 08:53 .

[Elizire]

Yes and No.

Let me explain. I'd love to continue my adventures at an epic level (as mentioned by others). But really, I'd probably be too busy re-building the Wardens in Ferelden (I have, but not yet played Awakenings so this may have changed. :happy:).

So here's what I think should happen. I import my DAO character to DA2.  He shows up as an NPC in the early part of the game/story as the Warden Commander and maybe even assigns me a few of my early missions. But in DA2, its really the story of a new character, while my DAO character occupies a role that is more along the lines of Duncan.

For a literary example of how this might work, I recommend Dave Duncan's King's Blades books. Notice how the main character from the first of the books (Gilded Chain, IRC) is the Grandmaster of the Order in the later books, with only a minor, but significant role in those stories.

[IAmTheExplorer]

No, and I want origins to have a "canon" ending to what happened at the end of origins and have a new story (Morrigan's child as canon would be a good bet), for many reasons.



First of all, gameplay. Not everyone who gets DA2 will have played origins, so you can't start being high level, as the learning curve for the many abilities you have in the end would be to steep (not to mention by the end of awakening, there are too few things able to realistically challenge the warden). Starting with the warden but resetting his level would be cheap and i'm sure people would complain (but then again, I've seen people complain of even the smallest little detail in origins)



Second, continuity issues. I see a lot of people complaining because every single step they took in origins hasn't carried over to Awakening. Well, this has a snowball effect. It would only lead to more complaints and a lot more of work for the devs trying to make your previous decisions matter. Where would you rather have time and money spent, creating a new engaging story, new interesting characters,improving gameplay... or constant gimmicky cameos and references to your previous choices as a way for the devs to say "please don't whine because every single step you took at some point of Origins isn't referenced"? That's dwelling in the past success to make a sequel, and normally trying to appeal to the "hey, do you remember how much the first game rocked? we're doing the same thing again" feel is striving for mediocrity.



Perhaps the reason so many want to take the same warden is because they want the old characters back. I don't really understand this. The characters story is mainly told, there's not really that much for them to say, unless they suddenly have secret pasts and for some reason they didn't tell us. It's surprising how little faith people have on bioware creating new characters and plots, as if they had lucked into making good characters in origins and ME.



So, to sum up, I'd like a new character which isn't a warden (we have explored them enough), a canon ending to start a new story without having to hear endless complaints about past decisions and continuity, and even a story set in another time and/or place.

[Nerdage]

IAmTheExplorer wrote...

No, and I want origins to have a "canon" ending to what happened at the end of origins and have a new story (Morrigan's child as canon would be a good bet), for many reasons.

I haven't tried it yet, but if you make an orlesian warden in Awakening isn't it asumed that the "hero of ferelden" made the sacrifice? I doubt there would be different default histories for different games.

I imagine that, when they do decide to finish the current setting and move on, the new setting will be so far removed from origins that you won't see any of your past decisions have any impact. Whether or not that will be DA2, I guess that's not for us to know just yet...