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[0mar]

I can do a bunch of Chantry quests, but when it comes to my romance, I can't spare a single minute?

That's some straight up ****ty writing right there. 

[Jenocide]

bioware just hates that virtual love!



BLAME CANADA!

[harrykim306]

I feel your pain, Bioware shot themselfs in the foot with that one really would it have killed them to put in a few extra dialogs and cut scenes.



I myself and other post that I have read all state they wanted romances included in this expansion pack, lets just hope Bioware learns from there griveous mistakes for the next expansion.



Or I will start to think this was an rushed half aresd expansion pushed by EA surly you dont want you loyal punters thinking that do you Bioware.

[TimelessWinter]

[/quote]Jenocide wrote...

bioware just hates that virtual love!

BLAME CANADA![/quote]



I'm offended by that.

Modifié par TimelessWinter, 21 mars 2010 - 07:48 .

[SeanMurphy2]

I think the board quests are really quick to create.



Adding a romance is a fundamental part of designing the character and probably requires a lot of rewriting and polishing. It also needs separate dialogue paths.

[Merci357]

take they board quests in awakening (especially the "orphan" quests, while somewhat funny) for what they are, often not even a single line of dialogue - quick and cheap to create, to add a little bit of extra content.

For real romances Awakening is just to short, no way to develop them.

[Jenocide]

TimelessWinter wrote...

I'm offended by that.

i'm Canadian i'm allowed to poke fun 
bob and doug are epic.

Modifié par Jenocide, 21 mars 2010 - 08:36 .

[Kwanzaabot]

Well, it's not like there's a lot of quality tail in Awakening. What are your choices? Justice for the ladies, and Velanna... and you know how uptight the Dalish are when it comes to getting busy and freaky.

[Gabey5]

yes it is very comical...that would have been a redeeming quality in this mediocre exp.

[Tinnic]

- oops double post -

Modifié par Tinnic, 21 mars 2010 - 09:04 .

[Tinnic]

Kwanzaabot wrote...

Well, it's not like there's a lot of quality tail in Awakening. What are your choices? Justice for the ladies, and Velanna... and you know how uptight the Dalish are when it comes to getting busy and freaky.

Justice = rotting corpse and Fade spirit who keeps replying "you are alluding to something, I don't know what"

Velanna = actual quote "Have I told you that I find most humans physically and morally repulsive?"

Just face facts guys, the companions in Awakenings were just not the type to romance. As I explain in detail here. I guess people miss the dev dairies where developers explain that characters who are romances are created with that in mind from the start. It's not as simple as just tacking on a few lines to characters and making them your love interest. Besides which, given how short the game was, adding the romance into the mix would just have been too much. Comparing them to the Chantry Board, the quests for which this time around were involved barely 10 minutes of extra gameplay is a bit much. 

There is a lot of valid criticism of Awakening. The lack of romance is not one of them.

[Bryy_Miller]

0mar wrote...

I can do a bunch of Chantry quests, but when it comes to my romance, I can't spare a single minute?

That's some straight up ****ty writing right there. 

Chantry quests are... quests... ? Romance is... not necessary to the game.

[mousestalker]

Tinnic wrote...

Kwanzaabot wrote...

Well, it's not like there's a lot of quality tail in Awakening. What are your choices? Justice for the ladies, and Velanna... and you know how uptight the Dalish are when it comes to getting busy and freaky.

Justice = rotting corpse and Fade spirit who keeps replying "you are alluding to something, I don't know what"

Velanna = actual quote "Have I told you that I find most humans physically and morally repulsive?"

To be a contrarian, both of the rogues are totally hot. Nathaniel is all dark and broody. Sigrun is surprisingly upbeat, all thing considered. And Anders will be a hottie once he passes through puberty.

[Tinnic]

mousestalker wrote...

Tinnic wrote...

Kwanzaabot wrote...

Well, it's not like there's a lot of quality tail in Awakening. What are your choices? Justice for the ladies, and Velanna... and you know how uptight the Dalish are when it comes to getting busy and freaky.

Justice = rotting corpse and Fade spirit who keeps replying "you are alluding to something, I don't know what"

Velanna = actual quote "Have I told you that I find most humans physically and morally repulsive?"

To be a contrarian, both of the rogues are totally hot. Nathaniel is all dark and broody. Sigrun is surprisingly upbeat, all thing considered. And Anders will be a hottie once he passes through puberty.

Sigrun = again actual quote "What's the point? I'm in the Legion of the Dead. Nothing between us will last."

Nathanial = Imported Warden - "You killed my father!", Orlesian Warden - "My father fought a war to drive your countrymen away!"

I am sorry but there are problems with all of them as romances.

[Feraele]

Surprisingly I got Anders to 100 "love" ..not sure if that was a bug or what..the rest of the characters were "friendly" hehehe. I didn't think you could get anyone to "love" status in Awakening..but apparently I was wrong. Not that anything happened mind you.

[Feraele]

Tinnic wrote...

mousestalker wrote...

Tinnic wrote...

Kwanzaabot wrote...

Well, it's not like there's a lot of quality tail in Awakening. What are your choices? Justice for the ladies, and Velanna... and you know how uptight the Dalish are when it comes to getting busy and freaky.

Justice = rotting corpse and Fade spirit who keeps replying "you are alluding to something, I don't know what"

Velanna = actual quote "Have I told you that I find most humans physically and morally repulsive?"

To be a contrarian, both of the rogues are totally hot. Nathaniel is all dark and broody. Sigrun is surprisingly upbeat, all thing considered. And Anders will be a hottie once he passes through puberty.

Sigrun = again actual quote "What's the point? I'm in the Legion of the Dead. Nothing between us will last."

Nathanial = Imported Warden - "You killed my father!", Orlesian Warden - "My father fought a war to drive your countrymen away!"

I am sorry but there are problems with all of them as romances.

Sigrun always states that she is dead anyways.   Think she's more interested in books than anything else..tbh.

[dragonolim1990]

i got justice to 'love' lol anyway. maybe they did not include the romace beacause they plan to follow the plot in origin in the next release? haha

[sylvanaerie]

the whole approval system is fubared. Anders and Justice can reach "Love" with no provocation on my PC's part. OR even after doing their personal quests everyone stays at "Warm".

Frankly considering my PC was the WC (the equivalent of Amaranthine's Arl) running around taking care of some of these stupid quests was just well stupid.  It felt not like quests but like fleshing out an expansion so it doesn't feel short. Don't get me wrong, they were fun but they didn't feel like I should be wasting my time dealing with them. I was supposed to be rebuilding the wardens and dealing with the Blight so why was I doing this crap and not delegating it? And if the guard couldn't deal with it, why were they guards? I would fire their incompetent asses IRL. So this BS is why I was so busy I couldn't take the time to speak with my S.O. or to read a codex/letter from said S.O.?


The game while okay for an expansion felt very shallow and meaningless, like none of my decisions mattered at all either in Origins or in the expansion. Run here beat up this bad guy, go home deal with something else, go here...It was like DA:Lite.

Modifié par sylvanaerie, 21 mars 2010 - 11:20 .

[Layn]

yep it feels wierd that my warden is the youngest child of the late Teyrn Cousland of Highever, Arlessa of Amaranthine and Warden-Commander, Queen consort and Hero of Ferelden and she gets sent on some easy quests... but hey, if i don't do it, who will? someone has to give the common people a hand.

and then theres the bandits. I'd love to just take my helmet off, ask if they know who i am, and tell them to get their asses of Ferelden if they don't want to be brutally slaughtered.

Modifié par Crrash, 21 mars 2010 - 11:41 .

[sylvanaerie]

Maybe I needed to steal Sgt Kylon from Denerim. He would have those guards straightened out in NO time!

[theteamfantastic]

I think side quests are counter productive to the narrative. Especially if the actual story presents elements of urgency and imminent danger. And such a high status guy slumming on this low end quests. One of those typical inconsistencies that I'd say no developer has conquered. (yet)

[Varasin]

If Bioware had included a romance, I would have been wondering why they wasted resources on an expansion.

[Frank the Running Bugzepel]

Romances are too tedious for an expansion. NWN2, MoTB really showed that and there are several more but I forgot.

[0mar]

I'm not even talking about romance with the characters in Awakenings (most of the characters are shallow and uninteresting).



I'm talking about finding/communicating with the Origins romance figure. It's asinine that I can do several Chantry quests (at least several hours, if not days in "game time"), but I can't take 15 minutes to write a letter and send it off. And also, as someone said above, the whole point of not including any romance materials in Awakenings was because of the "sense of urgency" in the XP. Those are Bioware's words, not anyone elses. However, when I can stop doing everything and help a bunch of random nobodies out because of a HELP WANTED sign posted on the Chantry Board, it makes the urgent narrative that much less urgent.

[searanox]

Crrash wrote...

yep it feels wierd that my warden is the youngest child of the late Teyrn Cousland of Highever, Arlessa of Amaranthine and Warden-Commander, Queen consort and Hero of Ferelden and she gets sent on some easy quests... but hey, if i don't do it, who will? someone has to give the common people a hand.

and then theres the bandits. I'd love to just take my helmet off, ask if they know who i am, and tell them to get their asses of Ferelden if they don't want to be brutally slaughtered.

Let's do a run-down of some of these quests... because aside from some of the odd jobs (which are established as odd jobs within the game universe itself), your duties involve the following: helping/protecting merchants, rescuing people from bandits, dealing with a large criminal network in the city, investigating Darkspawn raids, and rescuing noble families.  How are any of these trivial tasks not fit for the hero of the land and its ruler?  The only reason you end up doing quests like helping the "orphans" is because you choose to.  There's plenty of totally non-essential and random quests in Origins that I don't see people complaining about...

Modifié par searanox, 21 mars 2010 - 03:14 .