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[yodasmith00]

Shove your romances. Go buy a book.

[EmperorSahlertz]

Perhaps there are no romances because non of the NPCs are even (gasp!) interrested in you... Now there is a fresh perspective on things..

[Layn]

searanox wrote...

Let's do a run-down of some of these quests... because aside from some of the odd jobs (which are established as odd jobs within the game universe itself), your duties involve the following: helping/protecting merchants, rescuing people from bandits, dealing with a large criminal network in the city, investigating Darkspawn raids, and rescuing noble families.  How are any of these trivial tasks not fit for the hero of the land and its ruler?  The only reason you end up doing quests like helping the "orphans" is because you choose to.  There's plenty of totally non-essential and random quests in Origins that I don't see people complaining about...

i set up guards and recruit people to deal with things. why should i be solving ALL their problems (helping out once in a while is alright) when i should be looking for more grey warden recruits and figuring out why darkspawn are invading amaranthine after a blight.
you could explain that i don't have to do it, but the thing is that if i don't, the game counts it as if no one did

Modifié par Crrash, 21 mars 2010 - 03:33 .

[sylvanaerie]

I liked Awakening overall if you look at it as just a single story in a long book. It just had a lot of failings IMO as well. Not addressing the original decisions made in Origins being a big one (But I can even see that because people would make too many different ones to be able to include them all). But I don't see why you couldn't have gotten a letter from your romanced partner in Origins (At least those of us who made Al king with a romance got to see him). Would it have hurt the development of the game to include some little messenger who comes along at the start saying "I have a message for the warden commander" and then you get Codex A. B. or C. explaining where X was?



The quests were fun yes but do you honestly mean you would see your character rescuing every peasant in the game or stopping a gang of criminals in the city? There is a REASON there is a chain of command in military organizations and its so the commander isn't sent on every piddly assed little problem the guard should be attending to. Big stuff like the major quests yes, taking care of a smuggling ring in town, No. Building up the keep and dealing with problems there, I say yes. Taking out bandits who are too stupid to realize they shouldn't be attacking you , no. (again I wish I could bring Sgt Kylon from Denerim here)

[shedevil3001]

Tinnic wrote...

mousestalker wrote...

Tinnic wrote...

Kwanzaabot wrote...

Well, it's not like there's a lot of quality tail in Awakening. What are your choices? Justice for the ladies, and Velanna... and you know how uptight the Dalish are when it comes to getting busy and freaky.

Justice = rotting corpse and Fade spirit who keeps replying "you are alluding to something, I don't know what"

Velanna = actual quote "Have I told you that I find most humans physically and morally repulsive?"

To be a contrarian, both of the rogues are totally hot. Nathaniel is all dark and broody. Sigrun is surprisingly upbeat, all thing considered. And Anders will be a hottie once he passes through puberty.

Sigrun = again actual quote "What's the point? I'm in the Legion of the Dead. Nothing between us will last."

Nathanial = Imported Warden - "You killed my father!", Orlesian Warden - "My father fought a war to drive your countrymen away!"

I am sorry but there are problems with all of them as romances.

actually with nathaniel it could have posibilties as his father killed your family but look how it affected him, theres a connection that could be formed due to how much you actually have in common with him, if you,ve played awakening you will understand what i mean, as i cant explain it without spoilers, but if anyone could be romancible it would be him, as hes the 1 person who's got the most in common with the hfn, and he admitted he was wrong, so your point isnt quite correct, sorry to point that out  no offence intended

[0mar]

sylvanaerie wrote...

I liked Awakening overall if you look at it as just a single story in a long book. It just had a lot of failings IMO as well. Not addressing the original decisions made in Origins being a big one (But I can even see that because people would make too many different ones to be able to include them all). But I don't see why you couldn't have gotten a letter from your romanced partner in Origins (At least those of us who made Al king with a romance got to see him). Would it have hurt the development of the game to include some little messenger who comes along at the start saying "I have a message for the warden commander" and then you get Codex A. B. or C. explaining where X was?

The quests were fun yes but do you honestly mean you would see your character rescuing every peasant in the game or stopping a gang of criminals in the city? There is a REASON there is a chain of command in military organizations and its so the commander isn't sent on every piddly assed little problem the guard should be attending to. Big stuff like the major quests yes, taking care of a smuggling ring in town, No. Building up the keep and dealing with problems there, I say yes. Taking out bandits who are too stupid to realize they shouldn't be attacking you , no. (again I wish I could bring Sgt Kylon from Denerim here)

Exactly.  I don't want to import a stat sheet.  I wanted to import my character.  The way he/she interacted with her party was 50% of Origins and to completely ignore that is just plain asinine.  At the end of Origins, at least 2 characters have expressed major interest in adventuring/staying with me, yet a scant few months later, none of them are anywhere to be seen?  Come on Bioware.  Even just a couple letters and an expository NPC (eg messenger) would have brought a huge smile to a majority of gamers.

[Cell1e]

Yeah Nathaniel is such a sweetie and really could be romanced very easily, but I would think given the short nature of the game they could/should have included some flirting for those of us that would like the choice.

It wouldnt have to have a big impact on the overall endings or game. Flirting is casual and short term but doesnt have to lead to big love and marriage.



But I sure would have loved some flirting!

[sylvanaerie]

There were a couple of cute flirtation comments to Anders but pretty much that was it. My PC was married but that doesn't stop one from looking or even flirting sometimes.



And I still wanna know WHAT Alistair whispered in my Cousland girl's ear when he said goodbye!

[shedevil3001]

@cell1e i was queen consort so personally it didnt bother me not being able to romance nathaniel but it would of been nice to have had a choice to bond with him better as my warden and him had so much common ground and his family and my gw's were quite similar so to speak hopefully he will pop up in the next expansion or da2 and things might get more intresting between him and our wardens also maybe fereldon might invade orlais in a sequal its only fair after they invaded fereldon we should pay them back for that 1

[Petsura]

I'm afraid I'd rather have more missions than silly romances.

[shedevil3001]

to be fair romances arent silly they balance things out lets face it your out saving the world every single day your 1 step closer to death and you know it, like real life you'd wanna make the most of it and yes sometimes that means a bit of a roll around in the sack or romance heck even fallen in love, me personaly if i loved some one i would risk my life protecting them and saving the world just to be with them after i'm done its called motivation its what keeps us going and gives us the strength to keep going even when things seem pointless but thats my opinion

[sylvanaerie]

The OP wasn't asking for new romance options just to have some sort of acknowledgement of the one he/she began in Origins. Except for a lame little epilogue card it wasn't even mentioned unless you married Alistair and made him king in which case you get his cameo appearance. No mention of non-king Warden Alistair at all in game (who TECHNICALLY should have had no other things to do BUT be at your side dealing with the Blight aftermath and making new Wardens). Considering Leli and Zev's devotion to a PC regardless of romance or not their absence is particularly jarring.

[The Angry One]

Jenocide wrote...

bioware just hates that virtual love!

BLAME CANADA!

Let the occupation begin!

[Gazandoom]

Who cares, Morrigan is not in this expantion.Alas no point in romances:p

[The Angry One]

Gazandoom wrote...

Who cares, Morrigan is not in this expantion.Alas no point in romances:p

Some of us play females, or aren't interested in evil shrews who only desire one thing..

[Kavva]

ive enjoyed awakening without all those romance thing and it was great! (though a couple of bugs here and there )

[guise709]

I don't know why people care so much about romances guess they just want to see some skin so they can fantasise about when they ****** it. A romance doesn't make or break a game nor a story its a tool a writer can use but it is not essential. Stop obsessing over it

[Aurora]

im proper disappointed by this also, i married alistair, got to see him once....whats going on there? he was the best charactor and as he is king he is an important one!

the new charactors sucked apart from maybe Anders

and wahts up with the new conversation system? what conversation?! ooo ive found a tree, lets talk!

i miss how origins was, Bioware sort yourselves out and go back to the old ways!!!!!!!

[sylvanaerie]

guise709 wrote...

I don't know why people care so much about romances guess they just want to see some skin so they can fantasise about when they ****** it. A romance doesn't make or break a game nor a story its a tool a writer can use but it is not essential. Stop obsessing over it

OP didn't say ANYthing about sex.  They were asking for some kind of acknowledgement/explanation as to why their original romance partner wasn't even MENTIONED no letter no ANYthing except an epilogue card at the end of the game.  That IMO doesn't constitute acknowledgement, that seems more like a bone tossed to a mabari to appease it.

It breaks immersion and makes the game feel shallow when things like that get shelved.

Modifié par sylvanaerie, 21 mars 2010 - 05:13 .

[Layn]

well Alistair as King has kingly stuff to do. But i'd imagine he'd still send lots of cute letters.

Alistair as grey warden (not run away, not dead) should be right there helping the warden as second in command (he IS the senior warden of Ferelden after all ...)

Morrigan is gone and theres no reason for her to be back after a couple of months

Leli and Zevi should have stuck around, maybe arrive later, or at least send letters.



i really liked the e-mail system in ME2, even though some e-mails gave the false impression you'd be able to meet some of those characters again.

[Khayness]

Screw romance, the Blight Orfans need moonshine. Priorities my good man. You don't have time to ease your heart's desires when there are poor and needy people to help to!

[0mar]

guise709 wrote...

I don't know why people care so much about romances guess they just want to see some skin so they can fantasise about when they ****** it. A romance doesn't make or break a game nor a story its a tool a writer can use but it is not essential. Stop obsessing over it

How you interacted with your companions was a significant part of Origins.

It'd be like Return of the Jedi substituted brand new characters for the Rebel Alliance.  No more Hans Solo, Leia, Luke etc etc.  It just doesn't make sense.

[The Angry One]

Khayness wrote...

Screw romance, the Blight Orfans need moonshine. Priorities my good man. You don't have time to ease your heart's desires when there are poor and needy people to help to!

Yeah but all those people are Howe's former subjects.
Ew.

I say nuke Amaranthine from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

[AntiChri5]

The Angry One wrote...

Khayness wrote...

Screw romance, the Blight Orfans need moonshine. Priorities my good man. You don't have time to ease your heart's desires when there are poor and needy people to help to!

Yeah but all those people are Howe's former subjects.
Ew.

I say nuke Amaranthine from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

Or win them over and have the entire population talking about how much more awesome you are.

Then Bring Howe back to life to show him.

Then kill him again.

[Viglin]

0mar wrote...

I can do a bunch of Chantry quests, but when it comes to my romance, I can't spare a single minute?

That's some straight up ****ty writing right there. 

You mean saving people and doing some good vs just doing someone?

Yur, l can see youd be a great leader.......