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Did anyone else like this movie i thought it was awesome and i didnt understand the bad press it got, considering it was a graphic novel first i thought it was a good interpretation ...

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I enjoyed it.

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It was an excelent interpretation of the GN and I quite enjoyed it.



However I understand the bad press. They advertised this as a "Superhero Movie" and made it look liek a typical batman or spiderman flick. Unfortunately, people who went it see it without reading the GN (which was the majority) were treated to an excellent drama abut the human condition...which just happened to have people n costumes in it (only Manhattan has any powers).



I saw it opening night and it was rather amusing to observe the audience. About 30% of people were grinning like fools and whispering to their friends while they pointed at familiar things. the other 70% had a mixture of confusion and boredom on their faces and kept asking their friends what was gong on and who the bad guy was.

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I saw the movie before I read the graphic novel, and even though I saw the movie first I'm surprised by the similarities. The visual style is a little different darker, I felt, and I noticed the costumes didn't change too much.

I think I actually read a bit before I saw the film (including Rorshach's long speech when investigating the Comedian's death), and was surprised a certain few lines made it in the film.

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I saw it and loved it. It was close to the original yet changes obviously always need to be made. Now about how people can't understand the political issues that arise during superhero or well in this case vigilantes is anyone's guess, they like boom boom kaplow (go watch Adam West as batman is my only suggestion). And it was advertised as a superhero movie for the fact that people don't like to see the "issues"... unfortunately they prefer straight to action.

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For the most part I loved it. The only aspect I didn't particular care for was the ridiculous sex scene and stupid slow motion MTV corridor fight in the prison. Other than that it was better than most comic book movies and very close to the source material. Characters such as the Comedian and Dr.Manhatten were done perfectly, the only weak link I thought was Silk Spectre who's character and actress were pretty bland by comparison to the other cast. Some scenes such as Dr.Manhattans origin was actually better than that of the comic book (Sorry Mr Moore).




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I hated the movie. I thought it was excruciatingly long and boring. The dialogue made the scenes feel more like a soap opera.



I'd rather have my teeth pulled than watch that movie again.

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It got bad press?

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Loved it.

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I think comic book movies blow anyways. They're just way to over the top to fit in to a real world setting.

Only ones I liked were Batman Begins and The Dark Knight. The reason I liked them is that despite being based on a comic book, it did not feel like a comic book movie.

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That was actually what was best about Watchmen. Wasn't the usual "Booom raaar me superhero" crap.

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I tried to watch it on cable recently. I couldn't make it through the whole thing. I didn't enjoy the comic much either. I borrowed a copy and read through it, but was left with a palpable feeling that it was the first and last time I would. I don't need a comic book to tell me humans are flawed, at times twisted creatures and that the world is hypocritical and cruel. I couldn't sit through the same story again; even if the movie changed things around, added flashy effects, and cut out chunks of content to make it more palatable.

Modifié par Seagloom, 21 mars 2010 - 05:21 .


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Sure Seagloom; but chapters as Terrible Symetry are just masterpieces.

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Statulos wrote...

Sure Seagloom; but chapters as Terrible Symetry are just masterpieces.


Sure, I could respect certain parts of the comic. It wasn't awful. If that was the case I wouldn't have finished. I think the story was just too dreary for me. I felt good when it was over and I could finally get my mind out of that world.

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I consider Watchmen more of an essay about morals than an actual comic.



It basicaly contrasts the absolute relativism (Doctor Manhattam) with the most firm ideas (Rorschach) with, of course, the normal people in between.

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I thought the movie was ok, not great but not bad either. The look was amazing, but the acting out side of the Comedian and Rorschach was pretty bad.

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Statulos wrote...

I consider Watchmen more of an essay about morals than an actual comic.

It basicaly contrasts the absolute relativism (Doctor Manhattam) with the most firm ideas (Rorschach) with, of course, the normal people in between.


Good ol' Alan Moore.

He's one crazy mo'fo'.

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Statulos wrote...

I consider Watchmen more of an essay about morals than an actual comic.

It basicaly contrasts the absolute relativism (Doctor Manhattam) with the most firm ideas (Rorschach) with, of course, the normal people in between.


I recognized those themes too. It was hard not to when the story beat me over the head with them. :o From the two characters you mentioned, to Ozymandias' schemes and beliefs, to the personalities and motivations of various costumed heroes in the excerpts of Hollis' book between chapters, to the Black Freighter plot...

The series was brimming with links to that topic. Maybe it was because I read Watchmen several years after its release, but it didn't wow me so much as remind me how messed up human beings can be. By the time I read it, I had already gone through several textbooks on psychology, sociology, and philosophy for college. Watchmen's plot and characterization seemed lacking by comparison. Ah well, nothing to be done about it. That was the hand fate dealt me. One of my closest friends really liked the comics. I guess he will have to enjoy it enough for me too.

Also... Link

That video totally belittles the story. No Watchmen thread should exist without a link to it. :P

Modifié par Seagloom, 21 mars 2010 - 10:24 .


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Seagloom wrote...

I tried to watch it on cable recently. I couldn't make it through the whole thing. I didn't enjoy the comic much either. I borrowed a copy and read through it, but was left with a palpable feeling that it was the first and last time I would. I don't need a comic book to tell me humans are flawed, at times twisted creatures and that the world is hypocritical and cruel. I couldn't sit through the same story again; even if the movie changed things around, added flashy effects, and cut out chunks of content to make it more palatable.

And do you need "Surrogates" to tell you people are lazy? Truth is sometimes we forget and not realize it. That's why these people make them, crazy visionaries? Yes. But aren't we all... well when we don't go like so :::::::: "IT WASN'T ACTIONNY LIKE THE TRAILER SAID - 85% action 10% hot sex 5% talk THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!!! Oh well back to Transformers"

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Well, let me put it another way. When I watch a movie or read a comic, I do so for entertainment. Even watch I watch a film trying to tell me a message, I expect to be immersed... engrossed... captivated... insert your adjective of choice along those lines. Watchmen told me a message I have seen told before, and the spin its plot put on it did nothing but make me feel misanthropic. Since the OP was asking if anyone liked it, and I didn't... because I like not to feel like total crap after watching a movie... yeah...

Modifié par Seagloom, 21 mars 2010 - 10:36 .


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The film and graphic novel are ~20 years out of date now, but the message still sort of is relevant. I believe V for Vendetta is quite similar too (only seen the film) in that it's got a deeper message.



But really, Alan Moore. He's CUHRAYZEH.

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Seagloom wrote...

Statulos wrote...

I consider Watchmen more of an essay about morals than an actual comic.

It basicaly contrasts the absolute relativism (Doctor Manhattam) with the most firm ideas (Rorschach) with, of course, the normal people in between.


I recognized those themes too. It was hard not to when the story beat me over the head with them. :o From the two characters you mentioned, to Ozymandias' schemes and beliefs, to the personalities and motivations of various costumed heroes in the excerpts of Hollis' book between chapters, to the Black Freighter plot...

The series was brimming with links to that topic. Maybe it was because I read Watchmen several years after its release, but it didn't wow me so much as remind me how messed up human beings can be. By the time I read it, I had already gone through several textbooks on psychology, sociology, and philosophy for college. Watchmen's plot and characterization seemed lacking by comparison. Ah well, nothing to be done about it. That was the hand fate dealt me. One of my closest friends really liked the comics. I guess he will have to enjoy it enough for me too.

Also... Link

That video totally belittles the story. No Watchmen thread should exist without a link to it. :P


that link was hilarious :o

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It was an okay interpretation, but I didn't like that they left out the fake alien. Dr. Manhattan shouldn't be the plot device for world peace, that makes no sense.