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[entekk]

Okay, so I've played Mass Effect 2 200+ hours on insanity. I bought this game few days ago because I've heard that its story is absolutely awesome and whatnot. Started a dual-wielding female human warrior on normal difficulty and the game feels odd. Very odd. Indirect battle, no access to squaddies powers when not controlling them & so on. But okay, its not ME2. I died several times in the tower of Ishlay (?) and am now in Lothering trying to kill the thieve groups but I keep dying and dying and dying. I don't know what it is, still I have the odd feeling that I know NOTHING about how the game works, whats important and so forth. The game forces me to play at 1900x1080 on my 24" since it screws the screen when I try to set it to 1600x900. At 1900x1080 the nots on the right corner are incredibly small and hard to read.

I've played ME2 using the squaddies powers manually and still played without pauses since its easy-going with the hotkeys. Is that kind of playstyle possible in DA:O or shall I abandon all hope for a sweet, fast-paced gaming experience?

Thanks for the answers.

[joey_mork84]

Well, as far as you dying and what-not, you might want to check your tactics for the other party members, this allows them to fight without you controlling them. and as for the screen res problem, it could be your video card that is messing it up on the 16x9 res. (Also, this should probably be in the Tech Support forum, although I don't recommend it.. too many trolls lurk in there) What exactly is it doing when you put the screen res in 16x9?

EDIT: And yes, in DAO pause is your friend. It would probably be a good idea to set it to pause at the beginning of fights automatically at first until you get use to the controlls better. That would probably help you out a lot.

Modifié par joey_mork84, 21 mars 2010 - 05:04 .

[entekk]

Fat black bars appear on top and below the actual ingamescreen. On the resolution between 1600x900 and 1900x1080 (17xx somwhat) the screen is actually fine but ingamescreen shrinks as if I had an 22" or so.



But thats not the point, actually it doesnt matter too much to me. The real point is that it seems that I'm a huge noob at this game and I need an tutorial for complete beginners concerning battle, tactics, the tactic-screen (jeez, so many options >_<) and so on. the thing thats killing the fun at the moment is that I have the feeling that this game is absolutely huge but I come to understand just a tiny bit of it.

[joey_mork84]

entekk wrote...

Fat black bars appear on top and below the actual ingamescreen. On the resolution between 1600x900 and 1900x1080 (17xx somwhat) the screen is actually fine but ingamescreen shrinks as if I had an 22" or so.

But thats not the point, actually it doesnt matter too much to me. The real point is that it seems that I'm a huge noob at this game and I need an tutorial for complete beginners concerning battle, tactics, the tactic-screen (jeez, so many options >_<) and so on. the thing thats killing the fun at the moment is that I have the feeling that this game is absolutely huge but I come to understand just a tiny bit of it.

Well, you are right about the game being huge and, at the risk of giving away spoilers, the beginning of the game (before Ostagar) is considered the "tutorial". If you need some in-depth help, there are all kinds of help threads on this site for beginners. However, if you don't feel like sifting through a bunch of threads, you could do a google search (or whatever search engine you prefer) for a walkthrough. The DAO Wiki is also a good place to go for help and walkthroughs.

And just as a side note: The screen res issue might not seem like a big deal, but it can really effect your immersion in the game. This can possibly be fixed by making sure your graphics card is fully supported by the game and checking to see that your desktop res matches the game res (unlikely that something like that would cause it but its still possible). If that doesn't work, then you might wanna check out the Tech Support forum.

EDIT: In case you need it, here is a list of compatible video cards, compliments of Gorath Alpha. Hope I helped out. Enjoy the game! 

Modifié par joey_mork84, 21 mars 2010 - 05:26 .

[ransompendragon]

For battles the game is not designed to "just fight." Unless/until you get Really Good at setting tactics up. Most battles require "pause and plan" -- I had a lot of issues with dying until I looked in the spoilers forum for some tips. Second play through I am a little bit better (with 100 hours of practice).

It is a great game and with practice I am sure you will do better than me (I play on Normal and sometimes even Easy - not interested in nightmare mode but sounds like you will be).

[AlanC9]

entekk wrote...
I've played ME2 using the squaddies powers manually and still played without pauses since its easy-going with the hotkeys. Is that kind of playstyle possible in DA:O or shall I abandon all hope for a sweet, fast-paced gaming experience?

At the lower difficulty levels this is doable, though you'll probably be burning a lot of health poultices to do it. But there's enough money in the game to play that way if you don't care about buying the absolute best gear available.

Edit: the system is harder to learn than it is to master. Once you figure out the best builds and (especially) spells to use, lots of battles will be cakewalks.

Modifié par AlanC9, 21 mars 2010 - 05:57 .

[entekk]

Well, thanks.I'm almost 3 hours into it and havent yet finished the tutorial? Well then, I guess is huge

[Gill Kaiser]

Are you on a console or on the PC? There are some significant differences between the styles of combat.

[entekk]

PC obviously if I gotta struggle with the resolutions

Modifié par entekk, 21 mars 2010 - 08:13 .

[AlainNagel]

@entekk When I started with Origins I had to first start out on easy. Now after a couple of playthroughs in Awakenings I'm playing the standard character (so about three levels lower than an imported character) on nightmare.



Things will get easier once you've died a couple of times/made mistakes.

[Patrickblah]

this game is extremlly hard compared to ME2 i typically resort to switching the difficulty to easy during some battles

[Sanzee]

It's true, you really suck that bad.



No I'm only joking. You're fine. I just loved the title of your post more than anything so I had to respond. Good luck with finding a solution. I honestly don't think you suck though. You're a swell specter. Lawlz.

[DM Veil]

Often times you're going to find yourself out numbered, the bandits in Lothering is a good example of this. In these cases it's smart to hold your party back and use a ranged character (or just pull out a bow with your meatshield) and lure one or two enemies to you at a time. Sure it takes longer but this is my number 1 strategy for playing on Nightmare.



Another bit of advice is to make use of traps, especially early on when your characters aren't fully developed and running around with tier 7 gear; they can really cut down most mobs and take a good chunk of health out of tough enemies (such as a Revenant).



Third tip would be to have someone with herbalism keep you well stocked with health pots for those instances when you either don't have a mage that can heal or when your healer is under pressure (though if you think your encounters out ahead of time this shouldn't happen often).



I hope this helps.

[KwanGong]

Like many people have said, pause is your friend. When I first started, I could barely beat the Tower of Ishal boss on Normal, let alone Hard or Nightmare. Now, I've gone through the game twice on Insanity without my main character ever dying in battle. Granted, had to reload a couple of times to achieve that.

What some people have already said holds true. Pause is your friend. You'll probably want to pause each time you want to perform an in-combat action with your main character and always make sure to watch the healthbar on your other characters. Tactics is well and good but remember, the preset tactics rarely deal with what to do when an ally's health drops low so you need to watch out for that, too. Another thing to remember is that a dual warrior is not a tank. What you want to be doing is having a more heavily armoured individual, such as Alistair, draw aggro from enemies and whack away at them from a flanking position.

Potions are your friends but a bit expensive early on, like DM Veil said, Herbalism can help you out a lot early on. In fact, personally, I tend to blow all my money early on making potions. This is especially important early on when your tank and what not are chugging potions like there's no tomorrow. It will even out later on so you won't need to worry about it as much.

I wouldn't worry about having difficulty with the game on your first run through, seriously. I had a lot of difficulty early on as well and now, just love playing on harder difficulties.

Modifié par KwanGong, 21 mars 2010 - 10:42 .

[joey_mork84]

KwanGong wrote...

What you want to be doing is having a more heavily armoured individual, such as Alistair, draw aggro from enemies and whack away at them from a flanking position.

Shale is also very good for this (if you have the Stone Prisoner DLC).

[Janni-in-VA]

DA:O does have a steep learning curve. You can't just charge into a fight and start whaling away, you actually have to think about what you're doing. Go to Options, Game tab and put a check next to "Pause at start of combat." Remember that Pause is your friend. Try to position your group so that you can't be surrounded. Work on one enemy at a time until the numbers are whittled down to something manageable. Go to the tactics menu and make every character's first tactic as follows:

Player: Health: <50% Use health poultice least powerful.

If the first slot isn't empty, that's okay. Use an empty one from the bottom, then left-click on the number and drag it up to the top of the list. While you're in there, take a look at the presets available in the pull-down menu on the left "page". You might find some of those helpful.

[FBG_Loke]

Excellent tips.Another newb here that appreciates them. Off to find the Pause at start of combat option!!!

[entekk]

Wow, you guys really helped me out. I'm in Redcliffe now and I THINK I'm slowly getting a clue about this which makes it pretty funny

Since I thought "Well, I'm wa warrior, the ability to brew potions makes a warrior pretty gay", I havent spend a point in herbalism or whatever the abillities name is yet. So far I just bought every potion I got my hands on.

Modifié par entekk, 22 mars 2010 - 05:05 .

[Chromie]

Mass Effect 2 Insanity is nothing compared to Dragon Age on Nightmare...but if you ever try it you'll have so much fun in DA! Dying and dying but finally killing a boss is so rewarding.

[MindYerBeak]

The Tactics Screen, though looking complicated and formidable, is really an IF... THEN... statement. IF this happens... THEN do this... I find it much easier to think of it that way. It's much more fun using the Pause option, though, and micromanaging your team.

[Gill Kaiser]

I never made or bought potions. I always had enough potions just from loot...

Why would you give Herbalism to a warrior anyway? You can just get Morrigan to make your potions, she already has Herbalism ranks.

[k9medusa]

If play mage, put a point in the heal spell, it is well worth it. The rest of the spells in the catalog is optional -- depends on your build goals. With the heal spell, you turn your mana into health -- My main char is a mage -- if she is not attacking -- she acts like a mini- healer until you get one or make one -- again depends on your build ideas.

[entekk]

Ok, here we go again. I got Sten, Morrigan and Leliana in my party and I'm at the towncentre-fight of redcliffe. I died 6 times now, and still, everytime my last partymember dies, there are at least 6 zombies at full health left. I feel like I'm macromanaging the hell aut of the cahrs, I even switched to the hack'n slay-iso camera to view the battlefield better. I can't believe this, this is on NORMAL difficulty.

[SolitonMan]

Tactically speaking, I find that when in a boss fight it's best to focus first on minions. They go down much more easily than the boss, but if you ignore them until the boss is down they're better able to pick you off like the jackals they are! If you're playing a warrior, then I'd suggest some points in the poison skill would be well spent...I'm a big fan of the bombs, especially the soulrot bomb.



But ultimately, keep playing and you'll get the hang of it, I'm on my 5th playthrough and it's still an awesome game (one more origin story to go...). Good luck!

[Eledran]

You should use the typical mmo tactics, meaning the 'holy trinity', so you'll have a tank a healer and a dps.

The tank is the guy with the heavy armor and shield that you send in first, he should should try to pull most enemies onto him and take all damage.

The healer is either Morrigan or Wynne or your mage (spellcasters), they heal the tank, although you won't be healing all the time probably, so you can still do damage.

Then you have the DPS, which is either some rogue type or another spellcaster who deals the big blows, you should focus this guy on one target at a time, except in the case of caster area of effect spells.

That setup will get you through most of the game (it did for me), in normal you can go some alternative and exotic paths once you get good armour for your chars

Modifié par Eledran, 22 mars 2010 - 03:39 .