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[Costin_Razvan]

Nothing in astronomy is precise, but scientists can

Scientists don't know even 10% of the stuff they keep making theories off. Just because they say it and they have diplomas doesn't make it true.

[Dethateer]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

The only thing I can imagine would be when the Andromeda Galaxy is forecasted to collide with the Milky Way in 2.5 billion years.

The only thing I can imagine is how retarded a person must be to believe scientists can predict events that will happen in hundreds of millions years.

Seriously? They can't even predict asteroid paths now, and you are talking a galaxy collision? What the hell?

A galaxy is a fair bit larger than earth. Besides, they're not sure it will, they *assume* it will.

[thegreateski]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

The only thing I can imagine would be when the Andromeda Galaxy is forecasted to collide with the Milky Way in 2.5 billion years.

The only thing I can imagine is how retarded a person must be to believe scientists can predict events that will happen in hundreds of millions years.

Seriously? They can't even predict asteroid paths now, and you are talking a galaxy collision? What the hell?

Well in case you didn't know galaxy's are significantly larger then asteroids and are easier to keep your eye on.

[defunkti]

Actually a certain dwarf galaxy is colliding with Milky Way right now. From what I've heard at least.

[Costin_Razvan]

A galaxy is a fair bit larger than earth. Besides, they're not sure it will, they *assume* it will.

It is also very far way and thus hard to see. Let alone predict its path for the next 2 billion years, let's be reasonable at least.

Actually a certain dwarf galaxy is colliding with Milky Way right now. From what I've heard at least.

A dark matter dwarf galaxy apparently. No worries from scientists apparently, Then I again I wouldn't trust scientists, they are more likely to get hyped up by a black hole appearing on Earth then get scared

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 21 mars 2010 - 07:08 .

[SuperMedbh]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

The only thing I can imagine would be when the Andromeda Galaxy is forecasted to collide with the Milky Way in 2.5 billion years.

The only thing I can imagine is how retarded a person must be to believe scientists can predict events that will happen in hundreds of millions years.

Seriously? They can't even predict asteroid paths now, and you are talking a galaxy collision? What the hell?

It's easy.  You look at the relative motion of the Andromeda galaxy (fairly well established), extrapolate and say ZMOG DUCK!  Or words to that effect. 

A single asteroid can be affected by much smaller issues, such as how close it passes to a planet.  I'm guessing you're referring to the kerfluffle about Apophis in 2036--  it probably won't hit the Earth, but if it hits a 600 m "keyhole" in 2029, it could set up for a collision later on.  Personally, I think being able to estimate distances of less than a kilometre two decades off for a chunk of rock that is 450 metres long and about a 150 million km away right now is pretty darned good. 

[Dethateer]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

A galaxy is a fair bit larger than earth. Besides, they're not sure it will, they *assume* it will.

It is also very far way and thus hard to see.

No, it is impossible to see. When you look up during the night, you see, at earliest, where stars were a few hundred years ago. You cannot see where something is at the moment, space is simply too big, and light travels too slowly. Asteroids are incredibly small, you can't really see them outside the Solar system. Galaxies, on the other hand, are large enough for their trajectories to be roughly extrapolated. There is a fairly high chance that Andromeda will crash into our own Milky way (it'll likely still take the collision several thousand years to occur once it reaches us, but at least the night sky will be prettier), but it could also miss our galaxy completely.

[Dethateer]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Actually a certain dwarf galaxy is colliding with Milky Way right now. From what I've heard at least.

A dark matter dwarf galaxy apparently. No worries from scientists apparently, Then I again I wouldn't trust scientists, they are more likely to get hyped up by a black hole appearing on Earth then get scared

If that happened, what the scientists would think would be the least of your worries, seeing as how you'll be shredded and absorbed along with everyone else and the planet itself into the black hole. And besides that, whatever might happen in Mass Effect, singularities don't just appear.

[SuperMedbh]

Dethateer wrote... And besides that, whatever might happen in Mass Effect, singularities don't just appear.

Yes, you have to play an adept.

[Dethateer]

SuperMedbh wrote...

Dethateer wrote... And besides that, whatever might happen in Mass Effect, singularities don't just appear.

Yes, you have to play an adept.

Actually, you'd have to summon a gigantic thermonuclear reactor before you'd be able to collapse it into a black hole.

[DeathByWoodchipper]

Dethateer wrote...

SuperMedbh wrote...

Dethateer wrote... And besides that, whatever might happen in Mass Effect, singularities don't just appear.

Yes, you have to play an adept.

Actually, you'd have to summon a gigantic thermonuclear reactor before you'd be able to collapse it into a black hole.

Large Hadron Collider anybody?

[Costin_Razvan]

Think of the Mass Effect Relay System like the Stargates: there is potential for further interstellar power, we simply haven't evolved enough scientifically to create a power source great enough to fuel a jump that far.

The relays propel a ship to incredible ships by creating a mass free corridor. The stargates convert you into energy and then put you back together on the other side, big difference.

Dethateer : The point was that in the event of a catastrophe I think that scientists would be the last to worry about it.

Large Hadron Collider anybody?

Oh yes, LHC creating Black Holes, oh we have dismised that claim. Seriously though what they are doing at the LHC is merely replicating events that happen around Earth ALL the time, it's just that they can't monitor the events around Earth.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 21 mars 2010 - 07:18 .

[Dethateer]

Yeah, because there's certainly enough room in Switzerland to spawn another sun.

[DeathByWoodchipper]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

The point was that in the event of a catastrophe I think that scientists would be the last to worry about it.

Why do you say that?

[Dethateer]

Costin_Razvan wrote...
Dethateer : The point was that in the event of a catastrophe I think that scientists would be the last to worry about it.

If we're really colliding with a dark matter galaxy, there's exactly jack s**t we can do about it. We might as well study it instead of running around in little circles, waving our arms and shouting.

[DeathByWoodchipper]

DeathByWoodchipper wrote...

Large Hadron Collider anybody?

That was a joke.

[mjboldy]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Nothing in astronomy is precise.

Scientists don't know even 10% of the stuff they keep making theories off. Just because they say it and they have diplomas doesn't make it true.

You seem to be missing the fact that space is practically infinite translating to: It is extremely difficult to find be extremely precise when our only observing post is from the Earth. It would maybe help if we were also on a different part of the galaxy along with at Earth so that we can get a better angle between two points and better able to find the distance to places using simple trigonometry. You seem to fail to recognize faults in your arguments which leads me to believe that these people that "just say" things and just have "diplomas" know quite a bit more about astronomy than you do.

[Dethateer]

DeathByWoodchipper wrote...

DeathByWoodchipper wrote...

Large Hadron Collider anybody?

That was a joke.

Sorry, had too many belgian waffles and coke today.

[Timerider42]

InvaderErl wrote...

Dethateer wrote...

SuperMedbh wrote...

Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-
bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the
road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.

Douglas Adams The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

A certain pot of petunias and a sperm whale could not care less how big space is.

"Oh no, not again!"

Don't forget your towel.

[Dethateer]

"I hate these doors." (something along those lines, anyway, it's been at least three years since I've read it)

[Gill Kaiser]

thegreateski wrote...

mjboldy wrote...

Dethateer wrote...

InvaderErl wrote...

Fromyou wrote...

 Why is it that everything that the reapers do is only in the Milky Way galaxy when there are millions more out there 

The distances between galaxies are far greater than you think. Even the Reapers may not be capable of reaching them.

You don't even see the galaxies themselves, you see the nearest one, Andromeda, where it was 2.500.000 years ago. For all we know, it might not even exist anymore.
You could say you're looking at the past.

This. The nearest galaxy to ours (the Andromeda Galaxy) is 2,500,000 light years away. Although Deathateer, I'm pretty sure the death of an entire galaxy is quite an impossibility. Galaxies are made up of a large clusters of stars (with a massive black hole in the middle). Although stars do die, stars are also born so it's not like a galaxy can just go caput one day. The only thing I can imagine would be when the Andromeda Galaxy is forecasted to collide with the Milky Way in 2.5 billion years.

That'll be fun.

Actually the collision might not be that bad. Galaxies are predominantly empty space due to the aforementioned space largeness. It'd be like two very dispersed clouds drifting into each other. Of course, the 'collision' might cause a lot of gravitational problems.

Anyway, to the OP: we've had no indication that the Reapers haven't been to other galaxies, or that there's no life in other galaxies. They probably haven't, but nothing's been stated.

[MassFrost]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Nothing in astronomy is precise, but scientists can

Scientists don't know even 10% of the stuff they keep making theories off. Just because they say it and they have diplomas doesn't make it true.

Sort of like how you make up statistics off the top of your head?

[Elvis_Mazur]

Perhaps before the Reapers start to harvest all the advanced life here, they traveled to the other galaxies and created others Citadels and when they need, they go there and do the cycle, because, you know, it's possible that the reapers have mass relays inside them or a super mass relays in dark space that allows them to travel to galaxies.

Modifié par PetrySilva, 21 mars 2010 - 08:20 .

[Cowboy_christo]

There is 2 way we can see this. The reapers dont have the technology to travel from galaxy to galaxy thus they only **** with our galaxy and are originating from the milky way. Second, there is no mention they cant go from one galaxy to another so they could be harvesting different galaxy at different interval of time.