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AngryFrozenWater

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vhatever wrote...

Speed of light is still important to a wormhole. A wormhole would only be a shortcut, but much like the drive to the store might be 15 minutes driver, as the crow flies it would only be 2 minutes. Just shortens the trip. It does not teleport things from one place to some other place, only provides a shorter route. I think the only way to create a wormhole would be to create a massive gravity well. However, you would probably need the energy required to make a blackhole--- and you'd probably just end up creating a blackhole. Heh. In fact, a wormhole would act a LOT like a blackhole if darkmatter works as some claim it does.

I am not sure if I read you right. Sorry if I don't... The whole idea of a wormhole is to circumvent the problem of the speed of light. A wormhole would, like you say, have a shorter path "as the crow flies". And shortening the path is its purpose. It does not teleport. So what? Yes... The only way to create a wormhole is creating a massive gravity field. Depending on the shape of the wormhole odd things can happen. Where does it lead - another location in space, or in time, or to a parallel universe, or to closed time-like curves? There are a lot of peer reviewed articles on arXiv.org on these topics. Have a look there if you don't mind a little physics, cosmology and math. But waving wormholes away like they would end up as black holes without backing up that theory doesn't do the current scientists in that field justice. ;)

From a game point of view we might better look for a plot device than falsify any wormhole theory. ;)

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The only way to create one in theory is to introduce a massive flux in gravity, such a flux would act much like a blackhole and would probably collapse in on itself with moments, even if it created a wormhole.



The problem, like I explained already, was that even though it SHORTENS the trip, it does not make an instant point to point teleportation like start trek "beam me up scotty". So if you bridged the gap between 2000 lightyears with a wormhole, you'd still have to travel many, mnay lightyears from one end to the other, probably hundreds, further, you risk the wormhole just being a wild goose chase that takes infinitely longer to get to the other point since gravity and mass in the universe are always moving around, so to do the dimmensions of the wormhole.

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Dethateer wrote...

Noble 1 wrote...

If you're referring to the possibility of the Large Hadron Collider creating a mini-black hole, there is no danger. Even if it did, the black hole would not be powerful enough to destroy earth of even the collider which formed it


Exactly how stupid do you think I am? There's no way for the LHC to cram enough mass into a single point to create a singularity. It's too primitive.

Well, if certain extensions on the Standard Model are true, then it is entire possible for the LHC to create micro black holes at the rate of one per second.  Still, it is highly doubtful that they would cause any problems given that Hawking radiation wouldn't allow for these black holes to exist for more than a few nanoseconds.

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DeathByWoodchipper wrote...

Dethateer wrote...

Noble 1 wrote...

If you're referring to the possibility of the Large Hadron Collider creating a mini-black hole, there is no danger. Even if it did, the black hole would not be powerful enough to destroy earth of even the collider which formed it


Exactly how stupid do you think I am? There's no way for the LHC to cram enough mass into a single point to create a singularity. It's too primitive.

Well, if certain extensions on the Standard Model are true, then it is entire possible for the LHC to create micro black holes at the rate of one per second.  Still, it is highly doubtful that they would cause any problems given that Hawking radiation wouldn't allow for these black holes to exist for more than a few nanoseconds.


In that case I stand corrected.

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gmartin40 wrote...

Andromeda Galaxy...Our closest neighbor.

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"The Andomeda galaxy - a quiet menace"

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Shame the nearest galaxy is so far away. Even traveling at the speed of light (a scientific impossibility so far as know currently) it would still take a while. The most viable possibility seems to be in bending time and space to bring the galaxy "to" you.

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but think if this has been a cycle this whole time then wouldn't other galaxies be able to make technology to come here