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[Xaijin]

Time Well Spent wrote...

Malckeor wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

DragonFire6464 wrote...

There has been conformation by the developers that they will have all squad mates from Me2 will return for Me3 provided that they lived through the suicide mission. This has been stated by Game Informer's latest magazine.

In what capacity is the issue here.
A 5 second cameo counts as a "return".

Ok, you're starting to sound like a troll now. With all this evidence, it sounds like you're wrong. Everyone will return as squadmates in ME3.

Don't bank on everyone, I'd say, realistically Liara is the only one we can be sure of, hoping for  all the rest IS wishful thinking until proven otherwise.

Sorry, but it is true

seeing as Liara is getting an arc in DLC that's not true either. She could be killed off at the end of her DLC. So much for truth.

Modifié par Xaijin, 22 mars 2010 - 01:22 .

[FlyinElk212]

Xaijin wrote...

seeing as Liara is getting an arc in DLC that's not true either. She could be killed off at the end of her DLC. So much for truth.

Where do people keep hearing this? I haven't seen a single source for this but everyone's talking about it as if it's a confirmed fact.

[LPPrince]

FlyinElk212 wrote...

Xaijin wrote...

seeing as Liara is getting an arc in DLC that's not true either. She could be killed off at the end of her DLC. So much for truth.

Where do people keep hearing this? I haven't seen a single source for this but everyone's talking about it as if it's a confirmed fact.

Because it IS a confirmed fact, as someone found the sound files in the game, and we know about the DLC.

[FlyinElk212]

LPPrince wrote...

FlyinElk212 wrote...

Xaijin wrote...

seeing as Liara is getting an arc in DLC that's not true either. She could be killed off at the end of her DLC. So much for truth.

Where do people keep hearing this? I haven't seen a single source for this but everyone's talking about it as if it's a confirmed fact.

Because it IS a confirmed fact, as someone found the sound files in the game, and we know about the DLC.

I'm willing to believe it, but I wanna see proof, y'kno? Anyone have the links to these files/DLC talks?

[Mallissin]

Eternz wrote...

blah blah blah... there is just no way characters like Tali, Garrus or any of the others minus Miranda can have any significant roles, or be actual team members. yada yada yada...

OP is a Mirimaniac. Hidden bias without explaination. Boo!

[SpartanMKV]

apotheosic wrote...
 if they throw out ME2's squad they'd essentially be throwing out all the work that they put into ME2, since 80% of the game is finding squadmates and getting to know them. take out all the squad member specific missions and you are left with a very bare-bones story that accomplishes rather little.

Um...does no one else see this as a big problem with the plot?

Anyway, back on topic, it does seem pretty daunting to continue 10 relationships...plus any they bring back from ME1 (which is what I would prefer to see). I mean, I didn't find it all that hard to preserve all my team.

But, there are some plausible explanations for thinning out the team:

Thane can die from his disease.
Jack can get tired of Shepard and leave because she's impulsive and doesn't really care about anything.
Legion can report back to Geth space to moblize the Geth in preparation for the Reapers.
Miranda, Jacob, Tali, and Garrus would be harder to explain away, as they're all pretty loyal. Same with Grunt.
Not sure what to do with Mordin and Samara.

So, that would leave us with 5-7 from ME2, plus Kaiden/Ashley and Liara, provided they bring them back, plus some new characters for ME3. I suppose it's plausible, but this faith everyone keeps talking about is a little hard to muster for me personally in light of some of my disappointments with ME2.

Another idea might be giving the player some choice in who joins his/her team, a la Baldur's Gate. I thought that spiced up the replay value in those games, but maybe I'm unique in that opinion.

Modifié par SpartanMKV, 22 mars 2010 - 03:36 .

[SpartanMKV]

10 relationships, sorry, forgot Zaeed was in my initial count.

[edit] oh bother, now it's updated in my original post, so it looks like I repeated myself for nothing.

Modifié par SpartanMKV, 22 mars 2010 - 03:39 .

[LOST GAM3R]

Shandepared wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Faith.

Have it.

Sorry, but I'm not a moron.

This. Sadly, it's true. 

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The beautiful truth about Mass Effect 3

[Darkhour]

Eternz wrote...

Mass Effect 1 had 5 characters to bring over to ME 2, so no wasted resources in any content involving them, which wasn't much at all for the ones who weren't squad members.

Now, with the list of dead or alive team members Bioware have to incorporate into ME3 there is just no way characters like Tali, Garrus or any of the others minus Miranda can have any significant roles, or be actual team members. I don't know how they can have the resources to add new story lines or give them significant story roles simply because of the variety of surviving members among the player base. It would all be wasted for people without those characters.

Now also add in if those characters having interactions with each other, so that should also go out the window. I guess it would be like the variety of ways the choices and side quests can be done in ME1 but they are hundreds of times less of an issue then fully blown characters. Unfortunately i can't see any other way then giving the ME2 characters cameos, i don't blame Bioware for this (minus getting themselves into it) because to me it seems like an impossible situation.

They can't be crucial to the plot, but they can certainly be in the game. You import the ME2 save and start off at level 30 and continue into ME3. Whoever survives (which they made extremely easy) carries over. Maybe not Thane, Mordin and Samara(for renegades). Bioware said this was the case before ME2 came out.

[DrunkenGoon]

I tend to think they will bring back almost all of the surviving characters from ME2.. The third game is the last in the story of Shepard.. This is the BIG payoff so I'm under the impression that they are going to pull out all the stops in making this game everything it can be. I don't think they are going to bring in any new squadmates save maybe one or two..



In ME2 you already have a ton of playable squad members so why can't they do it again? I also think that the LI's are all going to be back. The good Dr.'s at BioWare are well aware at how popular the LI's are so just taking them out of the last game seems like a really bad move.. But only time will tell as always. No sense in getting bent out of shape about it considering the game probably won't come out until 2012 probably.

[phordicus]

isn't it obvious? ME3 will be just you and Joker. everyone else will be slotted in as the leaders of various factions you can enlist the aid of.

[Yxes1122]

 Something that people haven't brought up (and if they have i must've missed it) is that there are going to be people who wanna skip ME1 and ME2 and just start with ME3, so Bioware has to plan for that.  This is one of the reasons they included a brand new cast of characters.  That way, newbies wouldn't be dependent on playing the first game.  Unfortunately, Bioware will want to get these newbies to play the game to maximize profit, and as such, will make it so that is possible without the prior knowledge.  

If you keep in mind the characters from your first squad that they carried over (Garrus and Tali), neither of them played a very significant role in the first game (by that I mean there wasn't any significant back story or character connection.  especially  when compared to Ash or Kaiden)

My opinion on the matter is screw the newbs who want to start the story from part 3 (which to me sound frickin stupid) and really base the game around the fan base.  But in all honesty its probably not going to turn out that way.  I don't doubt ME3 will be a great game, but whether it holds to the idea that all your choices carry over with significant consequences will be something we wont see for some time.  

By joining EA, Bioware has increased its amount of resources, so I don't doubt that they could make the game work... but they really took the easy way out in ME2 (you die for 2 years and then have to re-connect with those that you knew, etc) and it will be interesting to see how they approach this carry over problem in part 3.  

But we need to keep in mind that there is a room somewhere in Bioware full of producers just sitting there thinking **** up, and trying to make the game work.  So lets hope to God  they are focusing on the fans XD

[Zulu_DFA]

Eternz wrote...

Mass Effect 1 had 5 characters to bring over to ME 2, so no wasted resources in any content involving them, which wasn't much at all for the ones who weren't squad members.

Now, with the list of dead or alive team members Bioware have to incorporate into ME3 there is just no way characters like Tali, Garrus or any of the others minus Miranda can have any significant roles, or be actual team members. I don't know how they can have the resources to add new story lines or give them significant story roles simply because of the variety of surviving members among the player base. It would all be wasted for people without those characters.

Now also add in if those characters having interactions with each other, so that should also go out the window. I guess it would be like the variety of ways the choices and side quests can be done in ME1 but they are hundreds of times less of an issue then fully blown characters. Unfortunately i can't see any other way then giving the ME2 characters cameos, i don't blame Bioware for this (minus getting themselves into it) because to me it seems like an impossible situation.

This is great news!