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[MelRedux]

SurelyForth wrote...

At the very least, you'll be able to impress the palace staff with how much more awesome you are than Anora.

Hahaha...that cracked me up

[rak72]

Eamon has an ugly 3rd cousin that he wants to hook up with Al. He is going to try to break up him & the Queen, then hook up the Queen W/ Teagan. If Al's boys can't swim, he will try to get his hooks into the throne though Teagan/Cousland (I think the landsmeet would approve of that pairing)

[blademaster7]

The writers must be up to something. Why would a Queen leave the court and disappear? It's understandable for Anora's "prince consort" to an extent, but a F-HM to do just that is, well, shocking.

WTF is up with that?

[SurelyForth]

blademaster7 wrote...

The writers must be up to something. Why would a Queen leave the court and disappear? It's understandable for Anora's "prince consort" to an extent, but a F-HM to do just that is, well, shocking.

WTF is up with that?

To put her in the same position as all the other possible PC's, I imagine. It's a way of leveling the playing field/bridging the gap between one adventure and the next without having to waste valuable game time to do it.

[MelRedux]

SurelyForth wrote...

blademaster7 wrote...

The writers must be up to something. Why would a Queen leave the court and disappear? It's understandable for Anora's "prince consort" to an extent, but a F-HM to do just that is, well, shocking.

WTF is up with that?

To put her in the same position as all the other possible PC's, I imagine. It's a way of leveling the playing field/bridging the gap between one adventure and the next without having to waste valuable game time to do it.

I'm thinking this is as well.  She's in the same position any other PC, plus there is still a known king (Alistair) or queen (Anora) in power.  Having Queen Cousland disappear on her own really is the only way to accomplish this.

BW better use this though.... how frustrating would it be for all of us if we disappear and we never find out where or why we went??  AAGGHHH!!!  <starts pulling hair out>

[LadyDamodred]

I agree it would level the playing field, but it doesn't explain why King Alistair disappears with his mistress. I'm cool with the disappearing as queen. It's King Alistair disappearing along with some PCs that has me confused and worried.

[Lady Jess]

SurelyForth wrote...

Mel_Redux wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

[So everyone but the queen gets a happy ending...how depressing that is.

Kharma's a . 

In which case, the mistresses should have it the worst and Cousland's married to Anora should have it better (they don't).

I still think it's either an error or just half-hearted programming/writing. If the disappearance card was even remotely different from the default romanceless card, I'd be more worried about it. The King or Queen should be notably concerned that their spouse has disappeared. As it is, I'm going assume that those epilogues are just to position everyone in the same place for whatever comes next and will have little to no bearing on circumstance.

Karma: I agree, in my playthrough I made all the "good" choices. No evil so my karma should be clean!

Error: I was wondering this, or laziness. It seems like they may have done ONE card for marriages both political and romantic rolled into one.

[SurelyForth]

LadyDamodred wrote...

I agree it would level the playing field, but it doesn't explain why King Alistair disappears with his mistress. I'm cool with the disappearing as queen. It's King Alistair disappearing along with some PCs that has me confused and worried.

This is where I think the half-hearted programming comes in. It's incredibly vague because it's the card for those who didn't have an LI in Origins. Kings and Queens get the same set of cards- Kings wouldn't get a special card saying they disappeared with Anora (why would she go anywhere?) so I imagine that they didn't bother to do one for Queens, even though Alistair would be likely to go where she went, because that would be yet another epilogue card for just one specific type of character.

I think what matters is that the game recognizes that the PC is, in fact, married to/in a relationship with Alistair.

[MelRedux]

Oops, I forgot about King Alistair disappearing with his mistress....there goes my theory. OH! Maybe it has something to so with keeping Anora alive? All you queens out there...did you keep her alive?

[LadyDamodred]

SurelyForth wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

I agree it would level the playing field, but it doesn't explain why King Alistair disappears with his mistress. I'm cool with the disappearing as queen. It's King Alistair disappearing along with some PCs that has me confused and worried.

This is where I think the half-hearted programming comes in. It's incredibly vague because it's the card for those who didn't have an LI in Origins. Kings and Queens get the same set of cards- Kings wouldn't get a special card saying they disappeared with Anora (why would she go anywhere?) so I imagine that they didn't bother to do one for Queens, even though Alistair would be likely to go where she went, because that would be yet another epilogue card for just one specific type of character.

I think what matters is that the game recognizes that the PC is, in fact, married to/in a relationship with Alistair.

Well, as Awakening shows us, Alistair doesn't always go where the queen goes.  Damn responsibilities.  And yes, I did appreciate when Alistair greeted me, grinning ear to ear as I rode through the gates.

Wait a minute...

RODE through the gates?  What the hell, Bioware?!  You make me walk across a goddamn country for a year and then again in Amaranthine and I finally get a horse when I go home?  *rages*

[SurelyForth]

Mel_Redux wrote...

Oops, I forgot about King Alistair disappearing with his mistress....there goes my theory. OH! Maybe it has something to so with keeping Anora alive? All you queens out there...did you keep her alive?

You have no option to kill her in Origins (she's just locked up) so that's not a variable.

[LadyDamodred]

Mel_Redux wrote...

Oops, I forgot about King Alistair disappearing with his mistress....there goes my theory. OH! Maybe it has something to so with keeping Anora alive? All you queens out there...did you keep her alive?

Well, given my druthers, I would have let her go back to Gwaren.  Hopefully she will be loyal in exchange for her life.  But it's not like the game gives us an option.  Alistair at the Landsmeet said he wouldn't execute her as long as there was a chance he could die, so he may have been planning to off her afterwards.  And the ending card I had said 'Queen Anora' was uncomfortable with all the attention he showed me.  So that's either a bugged ending or she's just not a fan of PDAs in general.  I kinda wish I knew what happened.

[MelRedux]

SurelyForth wrote...

Mel_Redux wrote...

Oops, I forgot about King Alistair disappearing with his mistress....there goes my theory. OH! Maybe it has something to so with keeping Anora alive? All you queens out there...did you keep her alive?

You have no option to kill her in Origins (she's just locked up) so that's not a variable.

Ok, there goes that theory too.  I suck at this game.....

[master-fluff]

LadyDamodred wrote...

Wait a minute...

RODE through the gates?  What the hell, Bioware?!  You make me walk across a goddamn country for a year and then again in Amaranthine and I finally get a horse when I go home?  *rages*

lolz

Maybe Oghren finally sussed out how to get a saddle on a mabari...

[Addai]

SurelyForth wrote...

Actually, Queens have a few happy years queening it up at court, it seems. That's something, right? At the very least, you'll be able to impress the palace staff with how much more awesome you are than Anora.

That shouldn't be hard!  LOL

I do imagine that the atmosphere is much different with the new ruling pair than with the last.  It's part of the advantage of not having been bred to the job- you don't need to do everything the expected way.

I imagine my PC trying to cheer Alistair up by telling him that despite all the burden and drudgery, they'll still make it a home (which is A's big thing and which my Cousland girl must miss a lot) and, to borrow a phrase from Zevran, "it'll be fun- we'll make it fun."

Of course, sometimes I'm struck by how young my PC and Alistair are anyway.  Maybe because I'm in my 30s myself this impresses me.    But I imagine them sometimes locking their door and (besides the usual, ahem, recreation), just jamming out to the Ferelden equivalent of something like this.  The servants' gossip be damned. 

[Addai]

LadyDamodred wrote...

RODE through the gates?  What the hell, Bioware?!  You make me walk across a goddamn country for a year and then again in Amaranthine and I finally get a horse when I go home?  *rages*

LOL  I noticed this, too.  Fereldans seem more familiar with dragons than they do with horses.

[SurelyForth]

Addai67 wrote...
That shouldn't be hard!  LOL

I do imagine that the atmosphere is much different with the new ruling pair than with the last.  It's part of the advantage of not having been bred to the job- you don't need to do everything the expected way.

I imagine my PC trying to cheer Alistair up by telling him that despite all the burden and drudgery, they'll still make it a home (which is A's big thing and which my Cousland girl must miss a lot) and, to borrow a phrase from Zevran, "it'll be fun- we'll make it fun."

Of course, sometimes I'm struck by how young my PC and Alistair are anyway.  Maybe because I'm in my 30s myself this impresses me.    But I imagine them sometimes locking their door and (besides the usual, ahem, recreation), just jamming out to the Ferelden equivalent of something like this.  The servants' gossip be damned. 

Yeah, most of my PC's are incredibly generous and pretty friendly and Zev will be on hand to keep morale up in his own inimitable way. The palace would be a happy place, for the most part.

I like to think that my main girl and Alistair have a bunch of little jokes and games to help deal with the  tedious stuff and that they work very hard to have their own protected time to be somewhat normal (I think sneaking into lower-class bars would be right up my PC's alley).

Eamon Disapproves -15

Modifié par SurelyForth, 31 mars 2010 - 08:13 .

[Sarah1281]

At the very least, you'll be able to impress the palace staff with how much more awesome you are than Anora.

Given that the staff starts complainig about how demanding Anora is practically the second she steps foot on the premise, it shouldn't be too hard.

LOL I noticed this, too. Fereldans seem more familiar with dragons than they do with horses.

Maybe at some point you just encounter too many dragons to be bothered slaying the one right in front of you so you let Oghren try out his new chariot idea and before you know it you've finally got convenient transportation.

Modifié par Sarah1281, 31 mars 2010 - 09:03 .

[Addai]

SurelyForth wrote...

(I think sneaking into lower-class bars would be right up my PC's alley).

Eamon Disapproves -15

Ha!  Indeed.  I always see that ending slide for Alistair and think "as long as he takes me with him sometimes"... what do they think the Warden Queen is doing, sitting in the palace stitching embroidery? 

[Chasseresse]

I'm sort of regretting hardening Al on this latest character of mine. I'm not looking forward to having to disappear for at least a while while my husband stays behind.



I better have some really good excuse to go off on my own. Like maybe to retrieve my damn dog from it's kidnappers?

[Lady Jess]

Chasseresse wrote...

I'm sort of regretting hardening Al on this latest character of mine. I'm not looking forward to having to disappear for at least a while while my husband stays behind.

I better have some really good excuse to go off on my own. Like maybe to retrieve my damn dog from it's kidnappers?

I have another HNF started. At first it was to see if that made a difference. but now, I'm considering just doing it to experience him not hardened. I think she'll still end up marrying him, I can't seem to resist that on my nobles. I keep saying II'm done but yet thee's always one more thing to try. And hanging out on these forums isn't helping!

1. City Elf, ended the game with Zev, Alistair married to anora.
2. HNF Hardened Alistair, queen ending.
3. Human Mage, Hardened Alistair...Warden ending.
 In progress
1. Dalish Elf, Hardened Alistair...going for the mistress ending
2. HNF...undecided but fun to play backity stab with the bad guys!

[MelRedux]

Addai67 wrote...

SurelyForth wrote...

(I think sneaking into lower-class bars would be right up my PC's alley).

Eamon Disapproves -15

Ha!  Indeed.  I always see that ending slide for Alistair and think "as long as he takes me with him sometimes"... what do they think the Warden Queen is doing, sitting in the palace stitching embroidery? 

Mine would!  She would stich a lovely scene of a battlefield, with lots of lovely decapitated bodies strewn across the ground...maybe a dragon flying in the background with lots of daggers sticking out of it, and more bodies in his mouth.  And of course, she would buy only the most expensive scarlet red thread that Ferelden gold can buy, to create her decorative blood spatter pattern around the border.  She would then hang it in the nursery (if a nursery is needed), so her child will grow up right.

Also, she's drunk.

[Addai]

Mel_Redux wrote...
She would then hang it in the nursery (if a nursery is needed), so her child will grow up right.

Also, she's drunk.

LOL  Warden Mommie dearest!

With all the fighting and disappearing we're apparently going to be doing, it's probably better that no heir is forthcoming.  Cailan was sort of screwed up from absent daddy + pampered princeling syndrome.

[Sarah1281]

That could be why Alistair doesn't leave if he's married to the Queen but will with a lover: he doesn't get married/Anora doesn't want to get pregnant (as Loghain tells the prince-consort) but has a child with the Queen and doesn't want to be a horrible father figure unlike some people he could mention...

[rak72]

We could take the little Warden with us - Like in "The Mummy" movies. Duncan played by Oded Fehrer