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[Sarah1281]

Yeah, the other GW want to obsess over a pregnancy they can come to Ferelden. It's not like Alistair or my HNF care enough what they think to go to them. Besides, they have responsibilities.

[Alyka]

Lady Jess wrote...

Alyka wrote...

That's what I was thinking.Maybe the HNF and Alistair decide to take the child away somewhere safe because it's a child born to two Grey Wardens and people might find out and try to kill it.Not to mention that it would be scandalous among the nobles and Grey Wardens.

But why would it be scandalous if she's his queen? I mean they are supposed to produce an heir, that's his biggest worry after the landsmeet. I can see concern if they didn't want it poked and prodded and tested as to how on earth they HAD a child but not scandal.

Well, scandalous to the nobles who don't agree with the fact that a Grey Warden is not only queen but has an heir to the throne,is an Arl of Amaranthine and is the commander of the Grey Warden's in Ferelden.And the Grey Warden's would probably be afraid of being exiled from Ferelden again.Think of it as the domino effect.That's what I meant.Sorry I wasn't clear on that.

Modifié par Alyka, 29 mars 2010 - 09:01 .

[Thor Rand Al]

Alyka wrote...

That's what I was thinking.  Maybe the HNF and Alistair decide to take the child away somewhere safe because it's a child born to two Grey Wardens and people might find out and try to kill it.Not to mention that it would be scandalous among the nobles and Grey Wardens.

See so that's why the female PC is leaving.  They (the Warden's) want to know how this was even possible so there going to pay a visit like Sarah says and my PC is vanishing before they start their poking and prodding.  And if they ask where I went all Alistair has to do is sit there and go what are you talking about, you know his play dumb speech he says he's so good at lol.


Hey miracles can happen.  Let my Cousland dream dang it lmao

[Sarah1281]

The PC always steps done from Warden-Commander/Arlessa not long after the end of the game so that wouldn't be an issue. And despite the fact that all of the nobles now know that the Joining could be fatal (thanks Anora) they don't know anything else and have no reason to believe it's anything other than secret techniques or exclusive training that makes Wardens the only ones who can stop the Blight so I can't seem them crying 'demon baby.' As for the other wardens...the sovereign monarchs of Ferelden are not answerable to them and if they care they can make the trip themselves.

[BlueMew]

Hmm. Of course they could be planning to have the Cousland queens disappear alone, Alistair remain king, and simply have him be killed if he leaves with you. There, problem solved.

Gods, I bloody well hope not. It would be wrong in so many ways.

[Fault Girl]

I was HNF married to Alistair and i got she went off alone, there be a good reason!!! I hardly doubt Alistair would let her go off on her! You think a queen would be more important than a mistress ...just kidding but it doesn't make sense really. I have an elf mage mistress so i'll see what ending i'll get...

[Isuina]

I got the same ending with my HNF i hope it is just a bug, cause it seems really horrible that he'd disappear with a mistress and not his wife lol too much like real life then isn't it!

[MelRedux]

So I am seriously the only queen who got the "they spend time with the wardens and then at court, and then disappear (albeit without any mention of us acutally being king and queen)" ending? Sounds like I got the bug here.



Or, maybe is has to do with the fact that Alistair wasn't hardened? Maybe he can't put his shoes on without my HNF's help, so wherever she goes, he goes :-D

[Addai]

Mel_Redux wrote...

So I am seriously the only queen who got the "they spend time with the wardens and then at court, and then disappear (albeit without any mention of us acutally being king and queen)" ending? Sounds like I got the bug here.

Or, maybe is has to do with the fact that Alistair wasn't hardened? Maybe he can't put his shoes on without my HNF's help, so wherever she goes, he goes :-D

LOL  You're the only one who's gotten that that I've heard of.  And yes, maybe it does have to do with hardening?  My King Ali is hard, baby, hard.    And I'm also the chancellor.  It almost sounds like in your ending, your HNF told him you planned to return to the Grey Wardens??

[MelRedux]

I can't be certain, but I'm pretty sure that is what I told him.  I was thinking I could help restore the Grey Wardans, AND be queen.  Heck, the epilogue of Origins said I was queen.

Maybe that's the key...an unhardened Alisatiar, and choose to rebuild the Grey Wardens.  Looks like I chose wisely

Modifié par Mel_Redux, 29 mars 2010 - 11:34 .

[Lady Jess]

Mel_Redux wrote...

I can't be certain, but I'm pretty sure that is what I told him.  I was thinking I could help restore the Grey Wardans, AND be queen.  Heck, the epilogue of Origins said I was queen.

Maybe that's the key...an unhardened Alisatiar, and choose to rebuild the Grey Wardens.  Looks like I chose wisely

Oh lord...you're going to make me go back and be a human noble again...curse you!!

[rak72]

Lady Jess wrote...

Mel_Redux wrote...

I can't be certain, but I'm pretty sure that is what I told him.  I was thinking I could help restore the Grey Wardans, AND be queen.  Heck, the epilogue of Origins said I was queen.

Maybe that's the key...an unhardened Alisatiar, and choose to rebuild the Grey Wardens.  Looks like I chose wisely

Oh lord...you're going to make me go back and be a human noble again...curse you!!

In O, I was Queen/Chancellor, and I told him I would rebuild th GW's.  The O epilouge said we stayed together forever, except when he went to HighEver for Duncans tomb.  If I didn't pick the choice of rebuilding, he disappeared to WysopF.  So anyway, In awakenings, I still diappeared w/o him eventhough we were suppose to be together 

He WAS haredened, however

[MelRedux]

Lady Jess wrote...

Oh lord...you're going to make me go back and be a human noble again...curse you!!

Don't worry, I'm right behind ya'! 

I started another game with a city elf, romancing Zevran.  Its just not the same.

[BeautyoftheBeast]

Mel_Redux wrote...

So I am seriously the only queen who got the "they spend time with the wardens and then at court, and then disappear (albeit without any mention of us acutally being king and queen)" ending? Sounds like I got the bug here.

Or, maybe is has to do with the fact that Alistair wasn't hardened? Maybe he can't put his shoes on without my HNF's help, so wherever she goes, he goes :-D

My Alistair is unhardened but I got the same ending as everyone else: "Returned to Court; he grinned from ear to ear; BAM! IM GONE!"

It may be the rebuilding the Grey Wardens thing though.

[Lady Jess]

Mel_Redux wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

Oh lord...you're going to make me go back and be a human noble again...curse you!!

Don't worry, I'm right behind ya'! 

I started another game with a city elf, romancing Zevran.  Its just not the same.

I'm already mid-way through with a Dalish Elf+Alistair, now creating a new HNF to not harden Alistair and not choose the rebuild option. Though I am fairly sure my other HNF rogue chose to stay at court...but he was hardened so. Oh well I've never played an unhardened Alistair. It's something to do while the kids hog the xbox!

[Ceridraen]

Mel_Redux wrote...

I can't be certain, but I'm pretty sure that is what I told him.  I was thinking I could help restore the Grey Wardans, AND be queen.  Heck, the epilogue of Origins said I was queen.

Maybe that's the key...an unhardened Alisatiar, and choose to rebuild the Grey Wardens.  Looks like I chose wisely

That's the one I did - I didn't like hardened Alistair at all, though I tried it a few times.  And I'm not being anyone's mistress, for any iffy-medieval reason.  I liked the unhardened, married the king story - he's quite charming about that. "nvm the king thing - I want to talk about this marriage bit.'   Loved that.  But I tend to despise alpha male types.    

[Thor Rand Al]

Ceridraen wrote...
That's the one I did - I didn't like hardened Alistair at all, though I tried it a few times.  And I'm not being anyone's mistress, for any iffy-medieval reason.  I liked the unhardened, married the king story - he's quite charming about that. "nvm the king thing - I want to talk about this marriage bit.'   Loved that.  But I tend to despise alpha male types.    

I just started a new HNF and I'm going to have to try this.  I've always shied away from not hardening him and making him King because I did that with my HNM and he jumped my but lmao.  I swore I'd never make him King without hardening him fist.  I'm really interested in what he does being made King, engaged and unhardened.  This will be interesting. 

[LadyDamodred]

As I recall, my first HNF had an unhardened Alistair and I don't recall it being any different from the hardened Alistair regarding the marriage thing. Perhaps I am remembering it wrong. IIRC, his ending slide was just different, and I do not like unhardened Alistair's ending slide. :/

[Thor Rand Al]

LadyDamodred wrote...

As I recall, my first HNF had an unhardened Alistair and I don't recall it being any different from the hardened Alistair regarding the marriage thing. Perhaps I am remembering it wrong. IIRC, his ending slide was just different, and I do not like unhardened Alistair's ending slide. :/

If you don't mind me asking what was the ending card for that particular route.  I thought there was a page on the wiki that told you about the different possible outcomes but I can't seem to find it.

[Ceridraen]

Thor Rand Al wrote...


I just started a new HNF and I'm going to have to try this.  I've always shied away from not hardening him and making him King because I did that with my HNM and he jumped my but lmao.  I swore I'd never make him King without hardening him fist.  I'm really interested in what he does being made King, engaged and unhardened.  This will be interesting. 

Unhardened, he was really cute about it.  He just came in & ignored the king part (whereas he'd been furious with my human noble male who made him king, unhardened) - that was probably the cutest result, in my view. (well, "thank god, someone finally gave a damn about my feelings & didn't make me king' also has its gratification)  I tried it all - I really hated hardening him. The only one I feel good about, when hardening him, is on my City Elf male rogue - he does it for his people, & he trusts Alistair. But he also feels bad about it.  (I know - I'm not 'supposed' to think it's bad - but - tough - I do.) 

The HNM will stick with him, unhardened, let him enjoy his life as best he can, & would be that sweet, supportive friend. But this way worked pretty well, I thought.  He's happy to get his girl without having to sweat out a proposal - the people will love him, & he's happy. 

To be honest, I never feel he'll ever be as happy as he would have been, had I let him follow his own path & stay a warden, but I figure his wife will keep him busy & pleased in Other Ways. (Until - grrrr.... she mysteriously ups & leaves)   I didn't keep that save. I was cheating to get it, anyway. (mod that removes the HNF requirement) but it had its charms. 

[Ceridraen]

For me, HNF, (and this was my daughter's, too) Hardened Alistair makes himself king. (you have no say in it.) He then comes to the Group Room (where he yells at you, in some circumstances) Hardened, at love, he says he has to break up with you for heirs, etc, & you can convince him to keep you as a mistress. Ack - I never did hardened Alistair & 'I'll rule beside him.' That's probably what you're asking? I assume he just accepts?



Unhardened, he accepts this (marriage) and comes to the room, is very cute, mostly to see if you really want to marry him. I think he still putters on about heirs, you say, 'not for lack of trying,' & that's that. I was happy with it. Still not 'me' happy, but it was pretty adorable.

[errant_knight]

Ceridraen wrote...

For me, HNF, (and this was my daughter's, too) Hardened Alistair makes himself king. (you have no say in it.) He then comes to the Group Room (where he yells at you, in some circumstances) Hardened, at love, he says he has to break up with you for heirs, etc, & you can convince him to keep you as a mistress. Ack - I never did hardened Alistair & 'I'll rule beside him.' That's probably what you're asking? I assume he just accepts?

Unhardened, he accepts this (marriage) and comes to the room, is very cute, mostly to see if you really want to marry him. I think he still putters on about heirs, you say, 'not for lack of trying,' & that's that. I was happy with it. Still not 'me' happy, but it was pretty adorable.

That part is the same when he's hardened, as far as I know. I've only done it when he was hardened, so I can't say for sure, but it sounds the same. I don't know why he just made himself king if he was in love. I'm guessing your PC wasn't a human noble.

Modifié par errant_knight, 30 mars 2010 - 07:15 .

[Thor Rand Al]

Ceridraen wrote...

For me, HNF, (and this was my daughter's, too) Hardened Alistair makes himself king. (you have no say in it.) He then comes to the Group Room (where he yells at you, in some circumstances) Hardened, at love, he says he has to break up with you for heirs, etc, & you can convince him to keep you as a mistress. Ack - I never did hardened Alistair & 'I'll rule beside him.' That's probably what you're asking? I assume he just accepts?

Unhardened, he accepts this (marriage) and comes to the room, is very cute, mostly to see if you really want to marry him. I think he still putters on about heirs, you say, 'not for lack of trying,' & that's that. I was happy with it. Still not 'me' happy, but it was pretty adorable.

That doesn't happen if your HNF with him hardened.  Even if I let him dual Loghain it still jumps to the part where I get to choose.  I've never had that happen where he makes himself King.  I know hardened he accepts the marriage also. I was just wondering if you still get your but jumped for making him King and if he's upset with you engaging yourself to him with him unhardend.

[Bratt1204]

Alyka wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

Alyka wrote...

That's what I was thinking.Maybe the HNF and Alistair decide to take the child away somewhere safe because it's a child born to two Grey Wardens and people might find out and try to kill it.Not to mention that it would be scandalous among the nobles and Grey Wardens.

But why would it be scandalous if she's his queen? I mean they are supposed to produce an heir, that's his biggest worry after the landsmeet. I can see concern if they didn't want it poked and prodded and tested as to how on earth they HAD a child but not scandal.

Well, scandalous to the nobles who don't agree with the fact that a Grey Warden is not only queen but has an heir to the throne,is an Arl of Amaranthine and is the commander of the Grey Warden's in Ferelden.And the Grey Warden's would probably be afraid of being exiled from Ferelden again.Think of it as the domino effect.That's what I meant.Sorry I wasn't clear on that.

The HNF is a Cousland before she became a Grey Warden. There should be no controversy over her being Queen or producing an heir to the Throne of Ferleden. She is from the most prominent Noble family in Ferelden (next to the Theirins) and therefore I cannot see anything 'scandalous' about her having child with her husband, the King. The possibility of two Grey Wardens producing a child may be near impossible but would be seen as quite miraculous, not to mention it would make for a very interesting storyline. I cannot see any reason why the Grey Wardens would be exiled from Ferelden because Queen (Cousland) becomes pregnant by Alistair. They are both from either Noble or Royal families before becoming Grey Wardens therefore I cannot see why there should be any controversy, unless they had done something deserving of it.

Modifié par Bratt1204, 30 mars 2010 - 01:33 .

[Cenwyn]

errant_knight wrote...

Auresta wrote...

jsdflasd. I hope they resolve this in an expansion or something..
Also hope it's not the Calling!

What's jsdflasd?

You don't have to worry about it being the taint. That's pretty much impossible, it wouldn't be secret, and Alistair would go too. Not only would they both start showing symtoms at about the same time, but he's that kind of guy. He's not going to let the woman he loves die alone in the deep roads. He'd go with her so they could die together.

Dang. I just made myself tear up....

Yes agreed there too.  You see here is what really happened, Alistair and I loved each other so much we dissappeared together when it was our time to die in glorious battle, side by side as we did on our adventures. Our souls live in eternal bliss and love forever never to be parted again.

By the Maker that my story and I am sticking to it!
NO epilogue going to convince me otherwise.