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LegendaryAvenger wrote...

Spartas Husky wrote...

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I dont know, if he mentions slavery is their cultural right, I'll blast him out an airlock in a second...period.

The statement that says "They say that slavery is part of their special caste system" could be false and orchestrated by both the batarian slavers and media.



True... or could not be true. And since we have not interacted with a batarian throughly in a friendly fashion and Garrus mentions almost nothing from his Batarian hacker besides him being good at his job.
And due to the fact, the only Batarians you meet are extremists in every sense of the word; I reserve judgement.

It could be orchestrated...maybe 99% of their population doesn't endorse slavery, hell, maybe their slavery is more greek fashion, or coudl be roman like.

Either way I'll maintain a healthy, hand on my pistol, skepticism whenever I meet one. No harm done in being careful right?
For example. Everyone says, all batarians are slavers...well most might be, or mos tmight not.

I helped the batarian sick, I let go those that were scared and threatening to kill Mordin's assistant,  etc etc. But still. Just like Kaiden said, a group of people dont define their entire species; a group of bad people dont mean the rest are the same, but a group of good people dont mean the rest are as good either.

ANd since we have lil to no info on them....I keep my hand on my pistol, or better yet, my cain :P

I say that we humans are hypocrits. It was a major part of greek culture. I also think that we are no better than the batarians or even the krogan. Think about it. Before we even discovered alien races; we had war, genocide, murder, terrorism, and slavery.


Yeah, I dont care what you call slavery, unless is willingly, is deplorable. GReek Slavery is only a bit better on the crap chart, because a larger amount of slaves were actually teachers, or maids, but for the most part, were sex slaves, force laborers, or other not so nice occupation.

B.
EVeryone is a hypocrite, the Relay at Xanxi was the Turians fault, not humans, and I critize humans often, humans were naive and dumb, they deserved the "slap" in the face of blowing the scout flotilla clean off the map, but not the succeeding conflict.

C. If is regarding our human history, every single species does that, sapient or not. We are animals, or you think is pretty to look at when you see an eagle tear appart a small squirrel.

The only difference, is that they do it for survival, we do it for comfort.

Animals, sapient or not, are the same, only real difference is that sapient animals figure out a different way to kill each other every time, instinct driven animals kill each other with the same thing every time.

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Shepard once shot a batarian just to watch him bleed.

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XingDaorong wrote...

Why Bioware should do it:

-Sheppard's back story in ME1 revolves around his service with the Alliance against Batarian slavers, getting a batarian party member would make for some interesting dialogue. Think Tali & Legion, but better.

-Batarians hate humans and their government funds slavers and pirates who raid human colonies. Almost every batarian you interact with in ME2 hates you (the bartender drugs you). Given how they are depicted as violent, anti-human, and morally bankrupt, a batarian party member could either be a paragon of virtue, different from the rest, or an amoral, bloodthirsty killer like Balak. Think of the plot angles, the party member could be a soldier who fought against Shepard on Mindoir/Torfan, a slaver who dealt with the Collectors, etc...

-The Batarians are ruled politically by an autocratic rogue state, economically by that state's control of industry, and socially by their caste system. They are totally unique in terms of the structure of their society, imo it would be infinitely more interesting to learn about them than a minor race like the Drell (as awesome as Thane is ^_^)

-Let's just face facts, batarians are the most awesome looking aliens in the entire game. They are four eyed frog people who go around raiding human colonies and pissing off the Council in general. Plus Bioware has put them into the plot heavilly in both games, imo that means they are thinking the same thing for ME3.

Seriously...how awesome would this be?


And they took the Leviathan of Dis!

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Zulu_DFA wrote...

XingDaorong wrote...

Why Bioware should do it:

-Sheppard's back story in ME1 revolves around his service with the Alliance against Batarian slavers, getting a batarian party member would make for some interesting dialogue. Think Tali & Legion, but better.

-Batarians hate humans and their government funds slavers and pirates who raid human colonies. Almost every batarian you interact with in ME2 hates you (the bartender drugs you). Given how they are depicted as violent, anti-human, and morally bankrupt, a batarian party member could either be a paragon of virtue, different from the rest, or an amoral, bloodthirsty killer like Balak. Think of the plot angles, the party member could be a soldier who fought against Shepard on Mindoir/Torfan, a slaver who dealt with the Collectors, etc...

-The Batarians are ruled politically by an autocratic rogue state, economically by that state's control of industry, and socially by their caste system. They are totally unique in terms of the structure of their society, imo it would be infinitely more interesting to learn about them than a minor race like the Drell (as awesome as Thane is ^_^)

-Let's just face facts, batarians are the most awesome looking aliens in the entire game. They are four eyed frog people who go around raiding human colonies and pissing off the Council in general. Plus Bioware has put them into the plot heavilly in both games, imo that means they are thinking the same thing for ME3.

Seriously...how awesome would this be?


And they took the Leviathan of Dis!


oooooo the Leviathan....what is up with that....MAKE 4 GAMES of ME not 3 PLZ!!! :P:wizard::wizard:

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I do not want a Batarian Squad member, I demand one.

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More asari's... And i'm not just saying that because I'm a guy..... Wait.... No... I AM saying that because I'm a guy!!! Women who kicks ass rocks!!!

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iharal5 wrote...

I do not want a Batarian Squad member, I demand one.


This!
^_^
A romanceable one!

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I might get tempted to shoot them.



Female turian though ... hm

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I wonder what would happen if you bring the batarian to the plague zone in omega...

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Dead thread? Anyhow I just joined and searched for a topic like this. I am definitely one for such a member however I think the duality of said animosity between Humans and Batarians should be reviewed by Bioware: Hatred for Batarians is generally justified by events in the game whereas we never see any 'bad' humans compared to the former race. A conflicted character who is a nationalist although critical of the political structure of his state would fit the role.

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a batarian? why not a keeper? or better yet a rachini squad member? how about a heavy biotic hanar?

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A batarian crew member would kick ass!Image IPB

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talking about thread necromacy...

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 Sure. I dislike batarians a lot. Image IPB But I'll try it out and will try not act like an ***hole towards him/her. Image IPB

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Okay, my idea, a Batarian Spectre! You heard me. They used to be a council race before humans got all up in the place and the Council sided with us about our colonizing, it's only been like what? 6 years at the longest? And it never said what races do and don't have Spectres, we just know that Turan, Salarian, and Asari have them for sure and Shep was the first human one. And they had a seat at the table for over 2000 years, why wouldn't they have one? It never said the Batarian's didn't have them...just my idea; the Batarian guy could then be a total Renegade type like most people think a Batarian would be (or a real Paragon) and you'd have the whole dialog options about how he became a Spectre and when the Batarians left council space he remained on because he was a Spectre first. Anyway, just an idea...

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I'd like to have a batarian squadmate. We've seen mostly criminals during the game, so I'd like to see one that is not. Also, some batarians in the first game seemed pretty decent, like Anto, Cathka, shopkeeper on Omega or that plague victim. And Garrus had one on the team, and they were the good guys.

In BDtS Shepard directly says to the Simon that most batarians are not terrorists/slavers like Balak and his men, so I think she will have no problems accepting a batarian on her crew. Maybe it is because my femShep is Spacer and she never had that dramatic experience which Colonist one had? I don't know if ColonistShepard even gets that dialog option.

And I personally would like to know more about batarians firsthand. Like with krogan, who were generally portrayed as bloodthirsty thugs in the first game. Even Wrex tells you that regular krogan will rather become a merc than stay at home and help his own race, etc. But in second game you get the whole different picture of krogan society.

The same is with geth, who were just organic-hating killing machines in the first game, but then in the second you learn a lot about them, and it changes the whole perception of the race.

I want something like that about batarian society. We know that they have a caste system, so it should be interesting. Maybe, all batarians we have met before are from the caste of untouchable, allowed only to do 'dirty work' outside batarian space, and they are despised even in their own society, and that's what makes them hate everyone?

Maybe there are groups who struggle for social equality but who don't have enough power for revolution or something, and they contact Shepard for the help? Or maybe it will be a batarian female? Caste systems usually deprive women of their rights, so maybe new crewmember should be an escapee who wanted to live free and has attempted escape and was saved by Shepard from being captured? Maybe not all batarian planets had slavery, and only after establishing of Hegemony slavery became universal in batarian space? Lots of possibilities here, I think.

Also, I think that all those people who emphasize that 'batarian are slavers' seems to forget that slavers in ME universe come in all flavours. In the first game we kill asari slaver (and we have legal slavery on Illium. Yes, it is limited, but it is still slavery!), in the second game we meet warden Kuril who is turian, but who sells prisoners nevertheless. And Jack's story shows us that humans are more than willing to sell a frightened little girl (she never mentioned the race, so I think those were humans). And Kasumi mentions how she once pretended to be a slave buyer to save a child, which shows us that humans at least buy slaves, so kasumi was not susicious at all to the sellers. But the fact that some asari, some turians and some human are slavers doesn't mean all asari, turians and humans are slavers.

Yes, batarians have legal slavery, but so do asari on Illium. And both protect their ways as "it is important to their society". There are many batarian pirats and mercs, but you meet as many asari mercs, who are no better than batarians. But the fact that you have cute Liara and enlightened Samara on the crew, and that you have met lots of decent asari in the game make you accept that those are roughs and exceptions rather than general rule. Maybe it is the exact same thing with batarians, and we just don't know about it.

Maybe recruitment of batarian should be optional, like with Wrex, Garrus and Tali in the first game or Legion and Grunt in the second game? So, all people who hate batarians won't be obliged to have someone they despise on their ship, but those, who want to learn more about batarians will still be able to recruit one.

Modifié par Babe Mause, 05 février 2011 - 01:42 .


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oops, double post

Modifié par Babe Mause, 05 février 2011 - 01:42 .


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Better yet a batarian romance for female sheps

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...Batarian romance is just disturbing.



If they do include one at any point in time as long as I have the option to not let him join my squad (Would prefer an option to kill, actually...) it's fine by me.

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Also I think it's great how everyone begged for a Geth squad mate but at the mention of a Batarian they all get up in arms. Not all Batarians are bad, I'm kind of shocked that so many people are comfortable with the idea of hating a whole race because of a few things about them. And in ME2 we start to see a whole other side of them. Heck if Garrus can take one in his squad why would all the people on here who love Garrus so much think he was stupid for doing it? If you think it is a better idea to kill one of them on site them clearly Garrus (who was betrayed by a Turian by the way; where is all the Turian hate? Shouldn't we all kill Garrus cause the Truian councilor was a jack@ss and we've seen a bunch of them be evil and such??) was dumb. Just felt like I needed to add this. And for how I'd like to see a Batarian Squad member implemented see my post a few up from this one!

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Spartas Husky wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

XingDaorong wrote...

Why Bioware should do it:

-Sheppard's back story in ME1 revolves around his service with the Alliance against Batarian slavers, getting a batarian party member would make for some interesting dialogue. Think Tali & Legion, but better.

-Batarians hate humans and their government funds slavers and pirates who raid human colonies. Almost every batarian you interact with in ME2 hates you (the bartender drugs you). Given how they are depicted as violent, anti-human, and morally bankrupt, a batarian party member could either be a paragon of virtue, different from the rest, or an amoral, bloodthirsty killer like Balak. Think of the plot angles, the party member could be a soldier who fought against Shepard on Mindoir/Torfan, a slaver who dealt with the Collectors, etc...

-The Batarians are ruled politically by an autocratic rogue state, economically by that state's control of industry, and socially by their caste system. They are totally unique in terms of the structure of their society, imo it would be infinitely more interesting to learn about them than a minor race like the Drell (as awesome as Thane is ^_^)

-Let's just face facts, batarians are the most awesome looking aliens in the entire game. They are four eyed frog people who go around raiding human colonies and pissing off the Council in general. Plus Bioware has put them into the plot heavilly in both games, imo that means they are thinking the same thing for ME3.

Seriously...how awesome would this be?


And they took the Leviathan of Dis!


oooooo the Leviathan....what is up with that....MAKE 4 GAMES of ME not 3 PLZ!!! :P:wizard::wizard:

Read Revelation :)

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Definitely want. This race deserves some justification.

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The Batarians were designed to be repulsive : ugly face, four eyes, civilization that practices slavery and that is officially excluded from council space... It's like the Vorcha : everything about them is made so that they attract no sympathy and are easier to shoot for the player. This is why I seriously doubt Bioware will include a Batarian squad member any time soon.

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I wouldn't care if the batarians blew up Terra Nova in BDtS, I want people who are the best of the best in ME3. People who will get the job done. If that means a ship filled with batarians, I won't look a gift badass in the mouth. I got bigger issues than old grudges and if BW plans to add a batarian to the controversy pot, more power to them. Same with why I worked with Cerberus in ME2 and why I dealt with the Council's BS in ME1.

The mission is what matters.

And if some human squadmate is holding a gun to said batarian I'd shoot that human one in the head and two in the chest. There's a galaxy at stake, **** vendettas.

Modifié par aeetos21, 08 février 2011 - 10:11 .


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I don't want Butarians in my team, or as allies. I 'm against the world of Care Bears, everyone loves, everyone is buddy. Despite the Reapers, I find much more interesting that some people remain hostile to humanity, better yet, the attack as a traitor.

It does not mean that Butarians are wicked, but they have their interests contrary to those of humanity.

 Super Shepard has already met enough allies ...

Modifié par Sylvianus, 08 février 2011 - 10:19 .