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[DOUGEYEMASTER]

Thread after thread after thread of complaints about the length of DA:A!!!

"this GAME is not worth it"

"this GAME is tooo short"

THIS EXPANSION / module / chapter of the story is not a GAME it is an expasion of the DA:A story (THE GAME OF DRAGON AGE), it is only meant to be the same size as say orzammar in DA:O's main quest section or the brecillian forest section. Awakeneing is just one part of an overall story.An Extra!

Bioware has not lied 2 anyone about the content in awakening and the $50 - $60 dollar price tags are down 2 the outlet. I bought a UK copy from a well know outlet and it cost me £17 on pre order £2 of which being postage.

Awakeneing is designed to keep ur appertite for dragon age going, would you much rather complete DA:O then hav to wait 2 - 3 - 4 years for DA 2???

My only not complaint but recommendation to Bioware is dont turn DA:O interface and play into a hack and slash version of mass effect 2 lol stat crunching is good

[AsheraII]

That's why it was called Dragon Age: Origins - Awakening (DA:O-A = good) and not Dragon Age: Awakening (DA:A = bad)

[Bryy_Miller]

Um.... it's a video game. It's a game.

[Onyx Jaguar]

On 360 its stand alone. And it should be for all platforms.



And actually it should just be called Dragon Age: Awakenings because when I read Dragon Age: Origins Awakenings I think of Half Life 2: Episode 2



Its more like Opposing force than Shivering Isles imo

[Proposition_Joe]

Well , compare it to an expansion in recent times MotB, that was superb, had a really good story, great atmosphere, good continuation from the original game, great ending, fair playingtime, replayability, very few bugs. Everything i hear Awakening is not having, slap a horrible price tag on Awakening also and you have dissent.

[The Angry One]

Throne of Bhaal is an expansion.

Mask of the Betrayer is an expansion.



How is it that those "expansions" almost universally satisfy player's needs, but Awakening doesn't?

The expansion card flies like a lead balloon.

[Dj LynZee]

I still bought it, and so did most of the whiners. Bioware got what they wanted.

[Daerog]

I'm not upset/angry with Awakening, but I would have wished for it to be delayed so they could have worked with it a little more. Should have made the personal quests a little easier to start and finish instead of having people miss out.

While Awakening was okay, I would prefer a more complete story next time, barely anything was put into the plot, the enemies didn't have much screen time, no one knows the Architect except for those who read The Calling, etc.

Also, what the Angry One said about how old expansions did well but this one seemed a bit lacking.

[BanditGR]

The Angry One wrote...

Throne of Bhaal is an expansion.
Mask of the Betrayer is an expansion.

How is it that those "expansions" almost universally satisfy player's needs, but Awakening doesn't?
The expansion card flies like a lead balloon.

Basically this. In a good deal of "expansions" you are able to use, at least some of the new features in the vanilla game. This is not the case with Awakening. It's more of a glorified, standalone DLC, loosely connected to Origins, since none of the decisions that "carry over" are of any particular substance (more like flavor). Awakening had a ton of potential and could have been much, MUCH better had they taken more time to polish it. Unfortunately, it is very obvious that it was rushed. Pity. Hopefully, Bioware will learn something from this.

[Proposition_Joe]

Hardly Bandit, their sales figures tell them everything is aaalright

Modifié par Proposition_Joe, 22 mars 2010 - 10:01 .

[Jenocide]

The Angry One wrote...

Throne of Bhaal is an expansion.
Mask of the Betrayer is an expansion.

How is it that those "expansions" almost universally satisfy player's needs, but Awakening doesn't?
The expansion card flies like a lead balloon.

throne of bhaal has all the same things people are complaining about when talking about Awakening. Its quite funny.

Modifié par Jenocide, 22 mars 2010 - 10:03 .

[Jenocide]

Bio-Boy 3000 wrote...

BanditGR wrote...
It's more of a glorified, standalone DLC

If you put in a seach for Dragon Age Awakening, you will find that many game sites are calling it exactly that, a DLC.

an expansion is DLC. its just a old computer game term. 

[The Angry One]

Jenocide wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Throne of Bhaal is an expansion.
Mask of the Betrayer is an expansion.

How is it that those "expansions" almost universally satisfy player's needs, but Awakening doesn't?
The expansion card flies like a lead balloon.

throne of bhaal has all the same things people are complaining about when talking about Awakening. Its quite funny.

Throne of Bhaal was also released 9 years ago.

[westiex9]

The Angry One wrote...

Throne of Bhaal is an expansion.
Mask of the Betrayer is an expansion.

How is it that those "expansions" almost universally satisfy player's needs, but Awakening doesn't?
The expansion card flies like a lead balloon.

Awakening is a great little side expansion, but thats all it is an expansion not a stand-alone game and i think the fact so many people complain it isn't as big or deep as origins speaks volumes about how off the mark their expectations were.

Throne of bhaal was one of the best expansions EVER...period....but im not sure that awakenings can really be compared to that in terms of scale, throne of bhaal was very much a conclusion whereas awakening seems more like another step on an expanding franchise.

For the record i HATED mask of the betrayer and continue to hate it with a passion, i thought its story was dreadful and more to the point i resented the fact my character was practically yanked from the origional into a setting i had no interest in. but im digressing

Awakening is really a great little side story, its not as big or grand as origins but then again it was never meant to be, it seems to be a big you either  love it or hate it thing on the forums...and you know thats great as long as people are civil each to their own.

but i will be expecting bioware to up the scales in any future releases.

[Jenocide]

The Angry One wrote...

Jenocide wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Throne of Bhaal is an expansion.
Mask of the Betrayer is an expansion.

How is it that those "expansions" almost universally satisfy player's needs, but Awakening doesn't?
The expansion card flies like a lead balloon.

throne of bhaal has all the same things people are complaining about when talking about Awakening. Its quite funny.

Throne of Bhaal was also released 9 years ago.

i know that.

if you think awanking is too short compared to origins then you must think throne of bhaal is too short in compared to Shadow of amn hell i can beat throne of bhaal in  4 hours.

also Mask of betray wasn't made by bioware

Modifié par Jenocide, 22 mars 2010 - 10:20 .

[Elanareon]

Awakening was fun for the most part. But it does give it the feeling its unfinished, regardless of being an expansion or not. No emotion, no proper ending (was too abrupt). Level designs were better than origins IMO.

[Onyx Jaguar]

Not all expansions are short though



where is this line of thought going

[Yrkoon]

DOUGEYEMASTER wrote...

Thread after thread after thread of complaints about the length of DA:A!!!

"this GAME is not worth it"

"this GAME is tooo short"

THIS EXPANSION / module / chapter of the story is not a GAME it is an expasion of the DA:A story (THE GAME OF DRAGON AGE), it is only meant to be the same size as say orzammar in DA:O's main quest section or the brecillian forest section. Awakeneing is just one part of an overall story.An Extra!

Bioware has not lied 2 anyone about the content in awakening and the $50 - $60 dollar price tags are down 2 the outlet. I bought a UK copy from a well know outlet and it cost me £17 on pre order £2 of which being postage.

Awakeneing is designed to keep ur appertite for dragon age going, would you much rather complete DA:O then hav to wait 2 - 3 - 4 years for DA 2???

My only not complaint but recommendation to Bioware is dont turn DA:O interface and play into a hack and slash version of mass effect 2 lol stat crunching is good

Yay!  Epic straw man thread is epic.    There are SO many very simple rebuttals to this heap of garbage  post of yours.  Don't know where to start...


Oh, I know... we'll start with length.   OK.  So we've established that Awakenings is an expansion pack  rather than a full game (I don't recall anyone claiming that it was a full game, or that it was supposed to be one  LOL).  Excellent.   Now then.    here are the following    Bioware  EXPANSIONS that  I've played in my lifetime.


1) Tales of the Sword Coast
2) Throne of Bhaal
3) Shadows of Undrentide
4) Hoards of the Underdark

Each one of them... ALL 4 of them were at least twice as long as Awakenings.  Throne of Bhaal was at least 3 times as long.  And here's the  kicker:  each one of them was   also  cheaper than Awakenings.  So.... more content AND cheaper.

Tell us again why we're supposed to be impressed by having to pay  10 bucks  more for HALF the content?

Oh and PS:  if the Greedy blood suckers at EA decide, because of people like you, that it's ok to charge, say... $25 for the next 1 hour long DLC... will  you be OK with that?   Will you  come on here  wearing your  super-defender cape and  do another one of these threads chastising us for our "whining"?

If not, then where exactly  WILL  you draw the line when it comes   cost  for content?  Me, I draw the line right here.   I've never heard of an expansion pack costing 40 bucks.   Awakenings is the first one I've encountered.  I bought it believing that  since Bioware's name is on it, and  since it's 40 bucks, it's  probably going to be  the Paragon of expansion packs.   Now imagine my surprize when  I later   discovered that it was nothing of the sort.  Instead :  1) it was  significantly shorter than ANY  Bioware expansion pack I've ever played.  2) It was bug-riddled  3) it was extremely poorly balanced  4) it added nothing to Origins  (none of the new skills and talents exist in Origins  (so much for  keeping my appetite for DA:O going;  5) The devs INTENTIONALLY  ruined the  companion dialogue system that EVERYONE loved  in DA


One last thing:

Awakeneing is designed to keep ur appertite for dragon age going, would you much rather complete DA:O then hav to wait 2 - 3 - 4 years for DA 2???

Yes.  I have no problem waiting 3 years for another classic like DA:O.  But I can tell you one thing.  If during my wait, Bioware destroys their reputation with another one of these half-assed, overpriced  "appetite whetting" releases, then I won't be buying DA2.   Not in a hundred years.   Simple as that.  NO ONE burns me twice.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 22 mars 2010 - 10:31 .

[westiex9]

Elanareon wrote...

Awakening was fun for the most part. But it does give it the feeling its unfinished, regardless of being an expansion or not. No emotion, no proper ending (was too abrupt). Level designs were better than origins IMO.

i did feel some emotional stuff during the end choice between saving one area or sacrificing another but...yeah the emotional content does take a backseat in awakening. the ending did feel pretty abrupt and i would have liked an epilogue scene, then again stabbing a broodmother in the face is pretty bad ass

I thought Kal hirol and blackmarsh were some of the funnest levels ive ever visited(kal hirol especially) so im hoping that in their next work bioware takes the best from awakening and origins and makes something even more amazing. lets just hope they don't take too long....i might suffer dragon age withdrawl

[BanditGR]

Jenocide wrote...

Bio-Boy 3000 wrote...

BanditGR wrote...
It's more of a glorified, standalone DLC

If you put in a seach for Dragon Age Awakening, you will find that many game sites are calling it exactly that, a DLC.

an expansion is DLC. its just a old computer game term. 

Not it isn't, please do not oversimplify things. Downloadable content (DLC) is just what the words imply, meaning extra content (usually no more than a few hours) and (perhaps) a few more abilities that usually work only for the specified (amount) of content. An expansion is supposed to expand on the original game, not necessarily just in terms of storyline, but also features. Awakening adds nothing to the original Origins game. Everything "new" it adds is restricted to it own little world. The difference, is quite obvious.

Modifié par BanditGR, 22 mars 2010 - 10:30 .

[Dam Wookie]

Blah blah blah blah. Pointless nitpicking surrounding the semantics of the ambiguous English language. Just how big a clueless moron am I. Blah blah blah. It is not an expansion it is a spin off. It is not a spin off it is a game. It is not a game it is an add on. It is not an add on it is DLC. It is a standalone on the xbox. It is not a standalone it is a game.



DAO was built to support additional content and it has not turned out well. This idea was heavily influenced from the success of the BG series which was not designed with content integration in mind. It had the intention to be straightforward enough so that others can create content. It reuses allot of resources so does not take the same level of time the original did. Yet it is poorly integrated. It introduced numerous bugs. It is imbalanced. It is short. It is poorly paced. With the resources available to Bioware, the standard of its previous games and the price it was released at, it has not met expectations. Those expectations have largely been acceptable as Bioware have shown they can meet all those targets and have been very clear with the direction their products are heading.



Well it is still more DA, it is fun and I found it at a knock down price is not an argument against any of those issues.



You would have to be unbelievably thick to think otherwise.

[DOUGEYEMASTER]

lol ive been gettin it from some people i see,,,,,



let me just say this....



i do not think in my opinion bioware have given any more or any less than they promised they would in dragon age origins - awakening, granted some people may hav felt they expected more but i considered what bioware offered us in this expansion from the details released on there website and other sources and i made the decision to buy this expansion at the price they set. If i had not bought this expansion in the scenario i did not think it is worth the money i would have saved my money for a different game or future expansion.



i have no objection to people voicing there opinion and criticising the devs work but i do find the way in which "some" people go about criticising products in a destructive manor with a "the man f**ked me again attitude" to be unnecessary. I use forums to find info and have constructive and meaningful conversations about the product not to c thread after thread of the same garbage which i know you all think of this this thread i fully understand that but i just got to a point thismorning were i was fed up of trawling through lists and lists of threads all regarding negative aspects of the products.



hey mabye bioware should let obsidian make DA2 and see how happy people are then )

[Yrkoon]

DOUGEYEMASTER wrote...


let me just say this....

i do not think in my opinion bioware have given any more or any less than they promised they would in dragon age origins - awakening

Really?

They flat out promised that Awakenings would be better than Origins.

Do you really think it is?

Modifié par Yrkoon, 22 mars 2010 - 01:59 .

[Cardantus]

I'm amazed that people somehow think that labeling something as an "expansion" means that the idea of value no longer applies...I mean seriously, what are you thinking? If "expansion" means "much smaller amount of content", then why on earth shouldn't it also mean "priced significantly less than a full game"?