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[Sarah1281]

Sadly the only change is on these last two playthroughs is I've recruited Sigrun and done her personal quest before getting Velanna.

I don't think that's it. My last playthrough I managed to do both of their quests an the first thing I did was recruit Sigrun so I wouldn't accidentally mess up her quest.

[AndreaDraco]

Do you remember if you had a particularly high approval value?

[Sarah1281]

I figured high approval would help and it didn't trigger until I was on my way back to the Wending Woods with her approval at over ninety.

[Zhijn]

This appears just to be a very rare random encounter. And beside, isnt Velanna real quest her sister?.

[ElvenGoddess]

well i didn't realize velanna had another quest other than joining with me to kick some but in the mines. it seemed she jumped straight to 100% approval for just joining with me. i know i gave her the locket but that was after we finished the mines. then i went on to the black marsh. after that was done, on the way back to the keep was when the dalish clan showed up. honestly i didn't even know that was a side quest. i don't remember fighting anyone or doing anything except telling her we'd find her sister and i believe that was that. my main problem is sigrun and ogrhen's companion quests. there sure are a lot of bugs in this expansion. don't get me wrong, i still like it just not what i had expected. i'm too much a perfectionist to just not be able to finish little side quests. it just eats at me if i can't finish them. arf!

[Stoomkal]

Well, I had Velanna in my group and just got a random encounter with elves... they attacked me!!



They were instantly hostile, nothing else.



PS3, by the way...

[Cazlee]

The quest isn't that random. I have a saved game that I can load, then travel anywhere 3-5 times to trigger Velanna's quest. My best guess is that completing all three main quest areas is what prevents the quest from popping up, as I could not get it to trigger at all on my first character that had all three quests completed.

[Stoomkal]

Then it is as we all thought - it is bugged not to trigger.



Here is something.



I have just had *two* encounters with elves (hostile).



I have also had 2 Dwarves, 6 DS, and varieties of animals... I am thinking the entire Random Encounter system is bugged.



I am just getting endless repeats of the same monsters... and I am almost level 35 without doing the Blackmarsh.

[Cazlee]

Yeah, there's definitely something happening that prevents the quest from taking place in some games. On my saved file where I get the quest by travelling 3-5 times, there are no other random encounters inbetween. I think it should be the first encounter to pop up.

Hrm... on the playthrough where I completed her quest, and before I got Velanna, I also reloaded everytime I encountered the hostile elves so that I got spiders or darkspawn instead. Just incase they were her former clan. Though when you do meet up with her clan, they are friendly.

Modifié par Cazlee, 25 mars 2010 - 08:22 .

[Stoomkal]

I have encountered two sets of elves *with* Velanna... both were hostile.



This is driving me ****ing nuts...

[IanPolaris]

I wonder if this is an import issue? Is there a difference between those that import their old DA:O characters and those that use "Orlesian Commander" wardens?



-Polaris

[AndreaDraco]

This is just a wild theory.



If you look at [url=http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Gifts_%28Awakening%29]this page[/ur], you see that every companion has six gifts, while Velanna has seven, the seventh being the elven trinket that belonged to Seranni's, which is found on a darkspawn corpse and which can also trigger a dilogue option ("I found this amulet on a darkspawn"). If you give it to Velanna as a gift, you only get +3 Approval, which is quite low for such an important memento of her sister. What if is the gift, which appears to be unusual in many ways, that prevents the quest from triggering?



I'll give it a try.

[brivdl1]

I've finish the velanna's quest and for the random encounter, Velanna had nearly 90% d'approv

with this quest Velanna has a good end

[Costin_Razvan]

Been trying for hours to trigger her quest. Sigh, stupid random encounters.

[Iseleth]

Just got the random encounter:

Velanna was at 59 approval
Was traveling from Amaranthine to Vigil's Keep
Had completed the Silverite mines and Kal'Hirol (in that order, so Velanna was recruited before Sigrun)
Done Anders and Nathaniel's companion quests, started Sigrun's

I don't know if that means anything, but I noticed that random encounters seem to happen more frequently in this playthrough (Orlesian Warden) than in the last one (a HN import).

@AndreaDraco: I gave her the elven trinket, so that didn't have a negative effect on the quest

Modifié par Iseleth, 25 mars 2010 - 05:53 .

[AndreaDraco]

Thanks Iseleth. My boyfriend triggered the encounter today, with +67 Approval, all three major quests completed and Velanna hadn't even Joined the Wardens.



Can it really be that random?

[Nioxide]

From everything I've read it's completley random, there is no correlation between:

1) Approval

2) Gifts given

3) Special Dialogs (i.e Tree in Amaranthine or staue in Vigils Keeps)

4) Whether she is a Warden or not

5) How many of the main storyline quests have been completed.



The only thing I cannot figure out is whether what Iseleth says is true in that an Orlesian Warden has more random encounters than an imported one.

[Sarah1281]

I haven't played an Orlesian warden yet, but I have practically no random encounters. Just the Velanna quest and two or three darkspawn attacks (including the one with Lilith) the whole game.

[Iseleth]

I noticed a difference in the number of random encounters (2 in my HN game, including the one with Lilith; 5-6 in this one), but don't really know if it has anything to do with the Orlesian origin.

[Bfler]

But it can't be so random that players don't get it even after they tried to trigger it for some hours.

[AndreaDraco]

Still, that's the only explanation. My boyfriend did almost the same things I did (minus some quests for the Merchants Guild) and the quest triggered for him, and he hadn't even completed 'Trade Must Flow' (he was one of the players with troubles getting the Lillith encounter). Aside from these differencies, we did exactly the same things. So it can't be a quest like in the Sigrun/Law & Order affair.

[Stoomkal]

I now have *a little* hope that it is indeed a very, very random encounter...



Dear God I hope I have this spawn... I have had 16 encounters so far...

[Kahlmulandr]

Stoomkal wrote...

I now have *a little* hope that it is indeed a very, very random encounter...

Dear God I hope I have this spawn... I have had 16 encounters so far...

It gets really annoying after your random encounters are repeats of ones you've already done.....i've parked my City elf rogue till patch time.