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[khathaway71]

* Possible Spoiler*

Do my eyes and ears decieve me or do Anders and Alistair look and sound a lot alike? It has my little brain wondering if they could be half brothers.

Indulge me if you would please. If Anders were the son of Katriel and King Maric and Alistair the son of the serving girl and King Maric...it would explain away some of the discrepancies...wouldn't it?



*edited to add spoiler warning *

Modifié par khathaway71, 22 mars 2010 - 07:56 .

[Petsura]

These guys are just there for the "bro-factor".



There is nothing else to it.

[thegreateski]

Or it could be Bioware's attempt to keep the ravenous "Alistair fans" from ripping them a new one.



not that there's anything wrong with that.

[Maria13]

I pick up some differences in their speech, especially now I'm towards the end of DAA. Whereas Alistair has an "estuary" English accent (ie from the south), and the actor playing Anders may have imitated it to being with, he definitely develops a northern English accent in Amaranthine, and very nice it sounds too.

[Dj LynZee]

like thegreatski I just assumed it was Bioware trying to fill Alistair's shoes and appease the rabid fangirls. My sister is one of them.

[Hakuyoku]

But their facial features are remarkably similar-- Alistair's, Cailan's, and Ander's-- they have the same brow shape and eyes, for example. I was hard pressed to consider this a coincidence as well, lol. Wasn't Maric supposed to be sleeping with an elf mage as well? And as Wynne says, the child of a mage is usually a mage. Alistair could be really the son of a serving girl and Anders could be a son of Maric as well, but he wouldn't know because the Circle took him, maybe?



Fangirl speculation, lolz.

[Dj LynZee]

Well Maric certainly got around!

[DOLFY01]

It's for me a difference because the voice doesn't sounds the same!!!

But everyone has his own opinion

[Jax Sparrow]

And Socha in The Crown & Lion Inn sounds exactly like Queen Anora... I wonder if their half-sisters? *laugh* Ferelden is a small country with an even smaller population base. There would be just enough genetic diversity to keep them from having more statistical anomalies than normal.

[SurelyForth]

I think there are some definite personality similarities and even some really parallel aspects of their backstories. Part of it could be the writing for that "type" of character but I think they are alike enough that they could be believably related, if that was something BW wanted to do.



I do think it's funny that they made him an Alistair-type character who just so happens to share Alistair's hair and eye-color and nose (although that last one is different on PS3), given all the rampant speculation about Maric's possible wealth of bastards.

[khathaway71]

Jax Sparrow wrote...

And Socha in The Crown & Lion Inn sounds exactly like Queen Anora... I wonder if their half-sisters? *laugh* Ferelden is a small country with an even smaller population base. There would be just enough genetic diversity to keep them from having more statistical anomalies than normal.

Yeah. I get the whole Bioware budget thing... Some of the voice actors did more than one character...etc etc etc.

No. I am not a drooling Alistair fangirl. If Bioware was going to put in a characters to appease the fangirls you'd think they'd do so for Zevran, Leliana fanatics as well.

Anyway, no matter how unlikely it is it was enough to make me stop and wonder. And if it is so I would like to give the writers a big Kudos. It would be a rather interesting spin.

[UrsulaCousland]

Eh. Yes, Anders is similar in looks and voice, but he annoyed me with the self-centeredness/self-absorbedness. That and he seems a bit less interested in doing what's right, though to some extent I can symapthize with why. However, his differences from Alistair were signficant, and he got on my nerves as a result.



If he's just there to appease the Alistair 'fangirls', he doesn't succeed, in my book at least.

[UrsulaCousland]

Sorry, can't edit from my phone; I do agree the potential is there that they could be half-brothers. That could make for some interesting situations with the two of them... *evil grin*

[Nhadalie]

Anders sounds more similar to Cullen than Alistair. Because Greg Eillis voiced both Cullen and Anders.


They are a bit similar, in that they both turn to making jokes instead of answering questions. But I feel that the similarities die there.

Anders has no issues with dealing with women. He's fairly self confident, knows what he wants, and will do things to get it. He's very independent, and values his freedom above all else.

Alistair isn't half as independent as Anders is, at least not until you "harden" him. Even then, he's always thinking about the good of all people rather than himself. He's no where near as self serving as Anders is.

They both are nice enough guys, and do care about other people. So while they are similar, they are in no way the same character.

Alistair is the type who blushes if you flirt with him. Anders would be the type to attempt to say something witty, and wink suggestively.

[khathaway71]

Nhadalie wrote...

Anders sounds more similar to Cullen than Alistair. Because Greg Eillis voiced both Cullen and Anders.


They are a bit similar, in that they both turn to making jokes instead of answering questions. But I feel that the similarities die there.

Anders has no issues with dealing with women. He's fairly self confident, knows what he wants, and will do things to get it. He's very independent, and values his freedom above all else.

Alistair isn't half as independent as Anders is, at least not until you "harden" him. Even then, he's always thinking about the good of all people rather than himself. He's no where near as self serving as Anders is.

They both are nice enough guys, and do care about other people. So while they are similar, they are in no way the same character.

Alistair is the type who blushes if you flirt with him. Anders would be the type to attempt to say something witty, and wink suggestively.

Yes. There are lots of differences as well. But to me that makes sense as well. I have many brothers and sisters and while there are lots of similarities there are so many differences as well. I am not claiming that Anders and Alistair are carbon copies of each other. Just alike enough to make me wonder if Bioware did it intentionally or if it was just coincidence due to budgets and limitations.

[SurelyForth]

Nhadalie wrote...

Anders sounds more similar to Cullen than Alistair. Because Greg Eillis voiced both Cullen and Anders.


They are a bit similar, in that they both turn to making jokes instead of answering questions. But I feel that the similarities die there.

Anders has no issues with dealing with women. He's fairly self confident, knows what he wants, and will do things to get it. He's very independent, and values his freedom above all else.

Alistair isn't half as independent as Anders is, at least not until you "harden" him. Even then, he's always thinking about the good of all people rather than himself. He's no where near as self serving as Anders is.

They both are nice enough guys, and do care about other people. So while they are similar, they are in no way the same character.

Alistair is the type who blushes if you flirt with him. Anders would be the type to attempt to say something witty, and wink suggestively.

And it's funny, because most of their differences can be explained simply enough- one was raised by a nobleman/the Chantry, the other was not (Anders didn't go to the Circle until he was a teenager, I think). Alistair has had duty and Chantry values drilled into him while Anders had more freedom to develop on his own (especially morally, since mages are a little more free love than general society) yet has also been forced to adopt a fairly high level of self-preservation although he has moments of overriding concern for others. I think Hardened Alistair definitely is coming into the self-preservation thing and he has also become more secure in his *charms* by the end of Origins than he is when you first romance him. 

Like I said, I could see it being Something or it could be Nothing. Speculation is fun, though.

Modifié par SurelyForth, 22 mars 2010 - 06:12 .

[Nhadalie]

I'm pretty sure Gaider has already said that people are reading too much into their similarities before.


It's not terribly likely that they're brothers. And yes, a lot of it can be explained by environment and who raised them.


It does irritate me a little to keep hearing people say that they sound the same. When everytime I hear Anders speak, all I can think of is Cullen a bit more relaxed and not stuttering.

[khathaway71]

SurelyForth wrote...


Like I said, I could see it being Something or it could be Nothing. Speculation is fun, though.

Yes. Agreed. It sure is rather fun.

[khathaway71]

Nhadalie wrote...

I'm pretty sure Gaider has already said that people are reading too much into their similarities before.


It's not terribly likely that they're brothers. And yes, a lot of it can be explained by environment and who raised them.


It does irritate me a little to keep hearing people say that they sound the same. When everytime I hear Anders speak, all I can think of is Cullen a bit more relaxed and not stuttering.

Hey. Thanks for pointing out who did the voice acting for them. I will have to listen even closer next time I run through and see if I can hear it.
If you remember where you read Gaider's remark on people reading too much into their similarities would you be a dear and post a link for me?
:innocent:

[TheComfyCat]

They don't seem very similar to me at all, in regard to their character (for reasons that Nhadalie already described).



I don't really see that much similarity in their appearance, either. Cailan and Alistair? Yeah, definitely see a family resemblance. Alistair and Anders? Uh, not so much. But I guess whether or not you see a similarity in their appearance might be subjective...



Bottom line, I think you have to really be reaching to see enough of a similarity to speculate that they're brothers, etc. Either that, or you're just looking at the general fact that they're both blond, have accents, and make jokes.. because that's really the extent of their similarities.

[khathaway71]

Ah. Never mind. Nuff said.

Modifié par khathaway71, 22 mars 2010 - 06:47 .

[NeroSparda]

Awww, Senor beat me to it. Though I wonder how that character's hair color is purple, me want!

[Nhadalie]

khathaway71 wrote...

Hey. Thanks for pointing out who did the voice acting for them. I will have to listen even closer next time I run through and see if I can hear it.
If you remember where you read Gaider's remark on people reading too much into their similarities would you be a dear and post a link for me?
:innocent:

The accent is a tad bit different. But take away that, the stuttering, and get Cullen a bit drunk, and you have Anders.


I don't remember where the quote was exactly. It was a long time ago. Back when Ander's character video came out, I believe. Someone posted pictures of Alistair, Anders, Cailan, and some random NPC side by side, claiming they were all family. Conspiracy theories abound.

Even if they were related, we're unlikely to ever know. Just as we're unlikely to ever find out if Alistair is Fiona's son or not.

[khathaway71]

I really liked Cullen...I'm suprised I didn't recognize the voice.



Funny how it gives me a little piece of mind that I wasn't the only one who thought Alistair and Anders were alike and yadda yadda. I was beginning to think I was hallucinating from hours upon hours of non-stop gameplay.