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[Seagull111]

I'm sorry Bioware. The game is missing the bio soul.
 It must  be set right in order to take this cloud away from Bioware's building legacy. Give free content, give a 20$ discount for DAO2, just do something and prove that gaming is not just about profits but about people believing in good sides of  fantasies, whether players or creators.

The lesson for DAO 2 is soul, it must have soul. developers must put in their soul and not just nice ideas. there inner fears, hopes, dreams and horrors and that is the true driving power and joy of RPG not better graphics.

(I'm not a native English speaker so excuse me for my English skills) 

Modifié par Seagull111, 22 mars 2010 - 04:31 .

[Seagull111]

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[Ubertax]

Seagull111 wrote...

I'm sorry Bioware. The game is missing the bio soul.
 It must  be set right in order to take this cloud away from Bioware's building legacy. Give free content, give a 20$ discount for DAO2, just do something and prove that gaming is not just about profits but about people believing in good sides of  fantasies, whether players or creators.

The lesson for DAO 2 is soul, it must have soul. developers must put in their soul and not just nice ideas. there inner fears, hopes, dreams and horrors and that is the true driving power and joy of RPG not better graphics.

(I'm not a native English speaker so excuse me for my English skills) 

Producing and developing games is for profit, and I prefer it that way. We get more of the games that we want, and the games that are produced are at a higher level of quality than if it wasn't done for a profit. The problem isn't with producing games for a profit, its just that gamers as consumers make really poor choices (Myself included...I bought horse armour and other bad DLC before...)

[0mar]

Realistically, we can't do anything.



However, we can hope Bioware takes these criticisms to heart.

[Seagull111]

Ubertax wrote...

Producing and developing games is for profit, and I prefer it that way. We get more of the games that we want, and the games that are produced are at a higher level of quality than if it wasn't done for a profit. The problem isn't with producing games for a profit, its just that gamers as consumers make really poor choices (Myself included...I bought horse armour and other bad DLC before...)

Of course there is a materialistic side to making games or anything actually.
But in order for something to be worthwhile in a game it must have a personal commitment to it which seems to ahve been overrun in Awakening.
I think the Bio stands for exactly that in Bioware, I played all BGs and NWN, and it felt totally different.
Awakening seemed  to be technically built by a smart  CRPG making robot.

Modifié par Seagull111, 22 mars 2010 - 04:24 .

[nicodeemus327]

That's because DAO: Awakening is an expansion. It's supposed to be more of the same.

Modifié par nicodeemus327, 22 mars 2010 - 04:36 .

[Seagull111]

Well, that the point, it's not more of the same...I wish it was.

[nicodeemus327]

Sure it is. It's more of the same, bugs and all. Now go register your game or I and most of people will discount your posts for trolling.

[Haexpane]

Seagull111 wrote...

I'm sorry Bioware. The game is missing the bio soul.
 It must  be set right in order to take this cloud away from Bioware's building legacy. Give free content, give a 20$ discount for DAO2, just do something and prove that gaming is not just about profits but about people believing in good sides of  fantasies, whether players or creators.

The lesson for DAO 2 is soul, it must have soul. developers must put in their soul and not just nice ideas. there inner fears, hopes, dreams and horrors and that is the true driving power and joy of RPG not better graphics.

(I'm not a native English speaker so excuse me for my English skills) 

Who are you Satan? Demanding people sacrifice their soulf for a videogame about dragons and kittens?   Seriously kid, lighten up:sick:

[TheMadCat]

What do you mean set right with the fans? They've done nothing wrong and owe no one here a damn thing. You made the choice to go out and purchase this product rather then sit back and listen and heed any possible criticisms from the forums here, various reviewers, other sites, friends who game, ect. Hell there were a bunch of people saying before the game was ever released that it felt lackluster and incredibly buggy compared to other Bioware games so I'm not sure how much more information or warning you were looking for.



Bioware does not owe you a thing simply because you felt YOU made a bad purchase, the world doesn't work like that.

[Legbiter]

I swear it's just one guy who writes all these types of posts.

[Seagull111]

Well I always felt Bioware was special in its approach to making games and i've been sticking along with them since BG

And I am sorry if I upset anyone, not my intent...

[JaegerBane]

Legbiter wrote...

I swear it's just one guy who writes all these types of posts.

:D:D

[Seagull111]

nicodeemus327 wrote...

Sure it is. It's more of the same, bugs and all. Now go register your game or I and most of people will discount your posts for trolling.

I disagree about more of the same. From what I I gather the DAO experience  felt different to most.
  

[ModerateOsprey]

Soul is something that goes into all great art. Is DA not art? Stuff for pure profit - no thanks. Many many musicians, authors and game designers care for their art and to be the top talent in any of these requires putting your soul into them.



I think the spirit of the post by the OP was that he wants to be taken away like DAO did for him and I agree with him.



Profit needs to be made so that the artist have what they need so they can use their talents to the best they can, so obviously a profit needs to be made.

[Seagull111]

Haexpane wrote...

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Who are you Satan? Demanding people sacrifice their soulf for a videogame about dragons and kittens?   Seriously kid, lighten up:sick:

I' not a native English speaker so it might be poor wording.

what I mean is that it felt likes the writers in DAO gave their best and in Awakening made things just satisfactory

[TheMadCat]

ModerateOsprey wrote...

Soul is something that goes into all great art. Is DA not art? Stuff for pure profit - no thanks. Many many musicians, authors and game designers care for their art and to be the top talent in any of these requires putting your soul into them.

I think the spirit of the post by the OP was that he wants to be taken away like DAO did for him and I agree with him.

Profit needs to be made so that the artist have what they need so they can use their talents to the best they can, so obviously a profit needs to be made.

I agree for the most part, but while it may have been the "spirit" of the post that certainly isn't what was initally  said. My beef is with the notion that Bioware somehow must fix things with their fans as if they did something wrong or are guilty of some devious act. He's not an english speaker, maybe he meant something different but it didn't sound like it.

Well I always felt Bioware was special in its approach to making games and I've been sticking along with them since BG

And it's the exact same with me, which is why I'm passing on the expansion until the price drops and a patch or two has been released. It's not up to the quality I've come to expect from Bioware and they seemed to have stepped away from their strengths that separate them from every other developer. That's all I can really do to show dissatisfaction with a product. If you bought the product and are upset state what you didn't like civilly and maybe Bioware will take it into account for their next game. But proclaiming that they have somehow wronged their fanbase and henceforth should make reparations is asinine.

[McBodman]

I don't want them to give us free stuff, I just want them to make better games.

[JigPig]

Seagull111 wrote...

I'm sorry Bioware. The game is missing the bio soul.
 It must  be set right in order to take this cloud away from Bioware's building legacy. Give free content, give a 20$ discount for DAO2, just do something and prove that gaming is not just about profits but about people believing in good sides of  fantasies, whether players or creators.

The lesson for DAO 2 is soul, it must have soul. developers must put in their soul and not just nice ideas. there inner fears, hopes, dreams and horrors and that is the true driving power and joy of RPG not better graphics.

(I'm not a native English speaker so excuse me for my English skills) 

No.

Modifié par JigPig, 22 mars 2010 - 06:05 .

[Leon Elsa]

What they need to do to set things right is to make sure their product is in working order. So, we need a friggin' patch that fixes all those game-breaking bugs Patch 1.03/awakening have introduced.

[Tekkaman Saber]

nicodeemus327 wrote...

Sure it is. It's more of the same, bugs and all. Now go register your game or I and most of people will discount your posts for trolling.

European ps3 Awakenings players cannot register their games.
So before you go start accusing people of trolling perhaps you could think about the other posters abit.

Though I'm still in the process of registering my copy of the game (not the expansion)

Modifié par Tekkaman Saber, 22 mars 2010 - 07:06 .

[ModerateOsprey]

TheMadCat wrote...

ModerateOsprey wrote...

Soul is something that goes into all great art. Is DA not art? Stuff for pure profit - no thanks. Many many musicians, authors and game designers care for their art and to be the top talent in any of these requires putting your soul into them.

I think the spirit of the post by the OP was that he wants to be taken away like DAO did for him and I agree with him.

Profit needs to be made so that the artist have what they need so they can use their talents to the best they can, so obviously a profit needs to be made.

I agree for the most part, but while it may have been the "spirit" of the post that certainly isn't what was initally  said. My beef is with the notion that Bioware somehow must fix things with their fans as if they did something wrong or are guilty of some devious act. He's not an english speaker, maybe he meant something different but it didn't sound like it.

Well I always felt Bioware was special in its approach to making games and I've been sticking along with them since BG

And it's the exact same with me, which is why I'm passing on the expansion until the price drops and a patch or two has been released. It's not up to the quality I've come to expect from Bioware and they seemed to have stepped away from their strengths that separate them from every other developer. That's all I can really do to show dissatisfaction with a product. If you bought the product and are upset state what you didn't like civilly and maybe Bioware will take it into account for their next game. But proclaiming that they have somehow wronged their fanbase and henceforth should make reparations is asinine.

Yes, I agree about the 'fix things right the fans' - overly strong. FWIW, I have got Awakenings and so far, thouroghly enjoying it. In some ways it feels 'tighter' than DAO.

[wwwwowwww]

Does bioware have anything to do with the pricing? Or is that set by EA? Pretty sure EA handles that

[Realmzmaster]

Interesting, Some gamers have no problems and are enjoying the Awakening experience. Some gamers are experiencing a boat load of problems and cannot enjoy the experience. I fall into the former camp.

I had a flawless install and have had no game stopping bugs (no CTDs). I actually like Awakenings more (if that is possible) than Origins.

As far as I am concerned Bioware and EA have nothing to make right with the fan base.

[BloodyMangus]

Their first priority should be fixing the major bugs in their products and overall tighting their quality control. Seriously Bioware, I love and will continue to support your games but some of these bugs are just sloppy.