wcholcombe wrote...
MutantSpleen wrote...
krylo wrote...
DeathWyrmNexus wrote...
I'll only settle for half true since if the royals say no, the Grey Wardens don't really
have any recourse that isn't idiotic or at least unwise. The royals can
oust the Grey Wardens at their own peril but they have done it before.
The Grey Wardens exist at the whim of the ruling bodies they reside in.
Granted they have territory where they are in charge but... That is a
different flavor of tacos all together.
I do recognize your point about conscription but like it is stated, they do the Rite of
Conscription at their own peril... Their rights end when the royals of
that territory say they do, treaty or not. The Royals ARE the law, to
badly quote Judge Dredd.
Of course.
However you said that neither right supercedes the other. That's the part that's
wrong.
By DEFAULT the Grey Warden's rights supercede those of the
chantry in this matter. Regardless of whether Anora or Alistair backed
up the Warden, the Templar would have still been in the wrong unless
she had written permission bearing the royal seal to oppose the right of
conscription as it applies to Anders.
The Right of Conscription supercedes the rights of the Chantry and the Templar so long as the
grace of the royals never gets involved in any way.
Exactly, that is what i was saying. I can supercede the Chantry without the Crown
backing me up there. I didn't object to him coming to my side just the
implications that I couldn't do it without him.
No, actually again, you needed the crown's support. If Allistair/Anora
decide that they believe the Chantry has the right to take him against
your wishes. there aint going to be anythign you can do about it.
Conscription is enforced by tradition, the wardens and other countries aren't going
to pitch a fit if it isn't upheld.
Oh, and for the 5 billionth time, your character is neither king or queen. You are prince or
princess consort.
Oh I could report back to Weisshaupt that Ferelden isn't upholding the oaths made to the Wardens
and I feel that we should withdraw our support. How well would
Amaranthine have faired without us there to stop the Architect and the
Mother?
Maybe the Templars can come save them.
These oaths were made a long time ago and these nations are bound to follow
them. Why should the Wardens keep their end of the bargain if a country
does not live up to their oath? I think that point has already been
made though, when the Wardens were driven out of Ferelden it left the
country suceptible to the Darkspawn. They were not prepared to face the
Blight and if not for two Wardens the entire country would have been
annhilated. Point made, don't **** with your Wardens.
Weisshaupt is wanting to flex it's political muscle too, they want Wardens to have
much more influence on politics. We are a test as we learned in
Awakenings. They are planning something.
You have me confused I am not a human noble origin, was never made princess-consort or
whatever. Alistair and me don't even like each other that much. I am a
mage, a Libertarian one at that. Their is no way I would
have given over Anders, one of my own, without a fight. Rylock learned
that lesson later on.
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