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[Godak]

surfgirlusa_2006 wrote...

Haha, yep. It was made back in 1968 or so, and had Gene Wilder. Good times.

Both version were written by Mel Brooks, so I doubt I'll be disappointed.

[Darth-Mandalore]

MerinTB wrote...

Darth-Mandalore wrote...

MerinTB wrote...
Honestly, Douglas Adams is one of my absolute favorite authors (and skeptics) so I do think I know a little bit of what I'm talking about when it comes to him.

Sorry but you will have to clear up what you mean by "Skeptic". Are you of religious origin and call him a "Skeptic" because he is an athiest or do you mean "Skeptic" in the greek philosopher sense?

Douglas Adams was a skeptic, in the scientific sense. I'm not sure what you mean by the "religious" sense, as there are skeptics who are religious of varying faiths - it's not a faith, or a sign of faith or lack of faith in any religion.  Skepticism, as a movement, believes in science and critical thinking.

Adams and Dawkins were best friends, and Adams was indeed an atheist, but that wasn't specifically what I was referring to.  Adams would be one of my favorite atheists, too, but I wasn't really going there until you brought up religion.

Yes I diddnt consider it in that sense but arent all free thinking men skeptics? Hell science itself could be called an organized form of skeptisim, I never knew one was considered a skeptic for believing in scientific method but there you go.

When I say skeptic in the religious sense it is because some people from a religious background consider athiest as a dirty word and an insult, I was wondering if you were from such a background and since you seem to respect Douglas Adams so much you would prefer to call him a skeptic rather than an athiest, however I was wrong and I apologise.

But when I say skeptic in the greek philosopher sense I am talking about the belief that knowledge of the truth is impossible which some of Adam's writing could fall under this philosophy.

MerinTB wrote...
Oddly enough, Darth-Mandalore, if you did five seconds of research you would learn that British audiences enjoyed the film (according to polling) more than American audiences.

You are going to have post a link or something because I cant find anything on how it was recieved in different countries other than the general consensus among Douglas Adam's fans and movie goers alike that the movie wasnt very good.

[MerinTB]

Darth-Mandalore wrote...

MerinTB wrote...

Darth-Mandalore wrote...

MerinTB wrote...
Honestly, Douglas Adams is one of my absolute favorite authors (and skeptics) so I do think I know a little bit of what I'm talking about when it comes to him.

Sorry but you will have to clear up what you mean by "Skeptic". Are you of religious origin and call him a "Skeptic" because he is an athiest or do you mean "Skeptic" in the greek philosopher sense?

Douglas Adams was a skeptic, in the scientific sense. I'm not sure what you mean by the "religious" sense, as there are skeptics who are religious of varying faiths - it's not a faith, or a sign of faith or lack of faith in any religion.  Skepticism, as a movement, believes in science and critical thinking.

Yes I diddnt consider it in that sense but arent all free thinking men skeptics? Hell science itself could be called an organized form of skeptisim, I never knew one was considered a skeptic for believing in scientific method but there you go.
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I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you are honestly confused and earnestly seeking clarification - and under that assumption, let me provide you with links to info instead of a lengthy, verbose response that will be misnamed by some as a "wall of text" -
Defintion of Scientific Skepticism: http://en.wikipedia....ific_skepticism or http://skepticblog.o...me-thing-again/
Skeptic sites: Skeptic's Guide to the Universe, Skepchick, Skeptoid, JREF, British Magazine The Skeptic

There's many more sites to help you learn.  Assuming you care to know.

Darth-Mandalore wrote...

MerinTB wrote...
Oddly enough, Darth-Mandalore, if you did five seconds of research you would learn that British audiences enjoyed the film (according to polling) more than American audiences.

You are going to have post a link or something because I cant find anything on how it was recieved in different countries other than the general consensus among Douglas Adam's fans and movie goers alike that the movie wasnt very good.

Here I go - I'm just going to type "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy movie" in the google search engine.  Let's see what I get.

The IMDB entry is the first to come up - you can follow links to MANY reviews and see that, generally, the UK reviewed it better than the US.  You can check out box office for USA and UK.

A few links down you get the Wikipedia entry which has this -

Critics
The film opened to mixed though generally favourable reviews. Rotten Tomatoes gave it an overall score of 61%, while top critics (UK) gave it a better score of 75%,[2] with Metacritic giving 63%.[3]
Empire magazine said that it was "A very British, very funny sci-fi misadventure that's guaranteed to win
converts",[4] although Roger Ebert wrote that "[The viewer] will hear dialogue that preserves the content of written humor at the cost of sounding as if the characters are holding a Douglas Adams reading", although noting that "I do not get the joke. I do not much want to get the joke, but maybe you will."[5]
Box office earnings
The movie was released on April 28, 2005, in the UK, making £4,200,000 in its first week in the UK. It was released a day later in the USA, making $21,103,203 in its opening weekend, opening in first
place. The movie remained in the US box office top ten for its first four weeks of release. The movie's total box office gross was $104,478,416 worldwide (as of December 2006).[6]

And then you can go to the Rotten Tomatoes link a little further down, the USA movie website (which is removed and you have to search for the newer site for the DVD), and the UK movie site (which is NOT removed.)

If you look at all of that and think British audiences found the film worse than American audiences did - well, you and I just have different kinds of reading comprehension.

Meanwhile, I find no evidence of your claim in that 5 second google search that "general consensus among Douglas Adam's fans and movie goers alike that
the movie wasnt very good."
I'm a Douglas Adams fan.  Richard Dawkins was his best friend.  The whole SGU crew are big fans of Adams.  I have about  a dozen friends and family members who are big fans of Adams' work.  While this is anecdotal, all of them enjoyed the movie.
Now you prove your claim that "general consensus among Douglas Adam's fans and movie goers alike that
the movie wasnt very good" by showing me some evidence (beyond you writing it) that more Douglas Adams fans disliked the movie than liked it.

Modifié par MerinTB, 25 mars 2010 - 03:51 .

[SithLordExarKun]

Transformers 2, most overrated POS. All the guys watched it just to ****** at the already overrated megan fox.

[MerinTB]

SithLordExarKun wrote...

Transformers 2, most overrated POS. All the guys watched it just to ****** at the already overrated megan fox.

I neither understand the enjoyment anyone over the age of maybe 14 can get from those films (maybe a nostalgia hit for those who grew up on the cartoons MAYBE)
nor do I understand the "attraction" of Megan Fox.  Blech.

[Funkcase]

Most overated:



Avatar: As art it was amazing, as a movie it was kinda a flop, it just used the same idea that has been done a hundred times before. Worth watching for the art though.



Twilight: I just dont see why everyone loves it?! It put me to sleep.



Most underated:



Alien 3: Not as good as the first two, but it dosent deserve all the stick it is still a good movie.



Bullet boy: Starts off like any film about the gutter, a guy gets out of jail trying to get his life back on track bla bla, but i got gripped midway, and it had probably one of the most emotional endings i have seen in a film before.

[Barrendall]

Overrated: Anything with Steven Seagal

Underrated:  The Quiet Man

Modifié par Barrendall111, 25 mars 2010 - 06:20 .

[Loerwyn]

MerinTB wrote...

SithLordExarKun wrote...

Transformers 2, most overrated POS. All the guys watched it just to ****** at the already overrated megan fox.

I neither understand the enjoyment anyone over the age of maybe 14 can get from those films (maybe a nostalgia hit for those who grew up on the cartoons MAYBE)
nor do I understand the "attraction" of Megan Fox.  Blech.

I've not seen the second film, but I enjoyed the first. But Shia LaBoeuf or whatever does my tree in.
And Megan Fox really isn't "all that". She always looks angry to some degree.

[ace1221]

to me she always looks like she is about to cry, but i digest

Overrated: Any movie quentin Tarantino made, directed, wrote or even indirectly assisted (in the making of). Pulp Fiction and that eye-gouger Inglorious Basterds come to mind

Underrated: Crank and Crank: High Voltage (or just generally anything jason statham is in)

Modifié par ace1221, 25 mars 2010 - 01:12 .

[Bathead]

Overrated : Citizen Kane

Underrated :Terror In Tiny Town

[Dudebag]

ace1221 wrote...

to me she always looks like she is about to cry, but i digest

Overrated: Any movie quentin Tarantino made, directed, wrote or even indirectly assisted (in the making of). Pulp Fiction and that eye-gouger Inglorious Basterds come to mind

What was wrong with Inglorious Basterds? I keep hearing a lot of hate for it but I myself loved the movie, of course I know that it isnt going to suit everyones tastes but I am just curious to know what exactly people diddnt like about it?

[ace1221]

What was wrong with Inglorious Basterds?

in short, everything. In more detail, it jumps around everywhere, poorly written, focuses too much on **** that doesnt matter, and is historically inaccurate. like ridiculously historically inaccurate. to see him shamelessly make a gory mockery of the end of WW2 epitifies all that is wrong with his movies 

[Dudebag]

ace1221 wrote...

What was wrong with Inglorious Basterds?

in short, everything. In more detail, it jumps around everywhere, poorly written, focuses too much on **** that doesnt matter, and is historically inaccurate. like ridiculously historically inaccurate. to see him shamelessly make a gory mockery of the end of WW2 epitifies all that is wrong with his movies 

Well I suppose not everyone is going to be intelligent enough to understand Tarantino's filming style, but I noticed you like Jason Statham? Maybe the Transporter movies might be more your sort of thing, pretty much all action and no plot to get in the way, might be right up your alley.

Besides all WW2 movies are historically inaccurate, Tarantino just took it to the next level.