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[Aldaris951]

In an interview weeks ago, Someone from bioware confirmed that even though your past romances are not featured in awakening, they are still in the game in the background for the future, But at the end of awakening, there is no extra last save, basically you can only save before the ending and not after.

And that means thats the end of our story for this character, so we wont ever get to continue our past romances in the next game.

So bioware have lied to us when clearly this expansion was the last game this grey warden will be in.

[TheMadCat]

Why? Because an epilogue save that can be added in anytime with a patch isn't initially there? Sit back and wait, let's see what comes out of the oven before saying it tastes like .

And where was that quote from? I never remember them saying anything like that.

[JaegerBane]

Aldaris951 wrote...

In an interview weeks ago, Someone from bioware confirmed that even though your past romances are not featured in awakening, they are still in the game in the background for the future, But at the end of awakening, there is no extra last save, basically you can only save before the ending and not after.

And that means thats the end of our story for this character, so we wont ever get to continue our past romances in the next game.

So bioware have lied to us when clearly this expansion was the last game this grey warden will be in.

They lied to us about romances because the game doesn't make an epilogue save?

Is that supposed to make sense, or are you using some reasoning you haven't written down here? Do you already know how DA2 will handle character imports?

I gotta agree with MadCat too, I dodn't remember hearing them say that.

Modifié par JaegerBane, 22 mars 2010 - 09:32 .

[Aldaris951]

Its in the FAQ i think, Trust me, bioware still havnt patched the xbox version of the game, If they didnt make an epilogue save beforehand, I doubt they would patch one in, If they were planning for our character to continue his story there would of been an eplilogue save allready in the game.



So we dont get to continue our past romances, they lied.

[JaegerBane]

Aldaris951 wrote...

Its in the FAQ i think, Trust me, bioware still havnt patched the xbox version of the game, If they didnt make an epilogue save beforehand, I doubt they would patch one in, If they were planning for our character to continue his story there would of been an eplilogue save allready in the game.

So we dont get to continue our past romances, they lied.

Aldaris, no offence but this sounds so whacked out it almost qualifies as Omen Formation. Next you'll be telling us that because there are more than 10 letters in the title it must mean that it'll be set in Orlais.

Ultimately, you have no idea how the state of your character is accessed by the sequel, if at all. You have no idea how the setup will function in the future games. The lack of epilogue save means bugger-all - ME1 didn't make any epilogue saves either.... that didn't stop ME2 from importing over an massive amount of details, incuding Romances.

I'm sorry Aldaris, but you sound like your grasping at straws.

[Liquidcz]

Epilogue save in Origins has nothing to do with importing, it's there to play DLC after you finish the game. Lack of "epilogue save" in Awakening means absolutely nothing in regards to the future, especially considering (spoiler) there's only one outcome with the last boss - killing it. And you can save right before that.



Also, as far as I know, BW never confirmed that we will be able to continue the romances. They just never denied it.

[blademaster7]

What happened in Awakening won't affect anything in the future. Well, I won't post spoilers here but that's what I think.



Not everyone buys the expansion after all. It would be unwise to release a second expansion that requires both origins and awakening to play.



If they decide to continue the story you can always use your DAO save. Your romance is still there.

[T1l]

I don't think I've ever seen a Bioware employee intentionally lie to someone. I've seen forum moderators intentionally give half-truths and mislead people (which seems to be par for the course) and I've certainly seen interviews where project leads are clearly not entirely in touch with those below them who are finalising the product... but I don't think anyone from Bioware would intentionally lie.

And it's the intent you need to concern yourself with. Sometimes even people who should know what they’re talking about, don’t. It’s not necessarily a lie, it’s just misinformation.

Modifié par T1l, 22 mars 2010 - 09:41 .

[Aldaris951]

trust me, They did say that even though we cant continue our romance in awakening, its still there in the code.

[TheMadCat]

Epilogue save in Origins has nothing to do with importing, it's there
to play DLC after you finish the game. Lack of "epilogue save" in
Awakening means absolutely nothing in regards to the future, especially
considering (spoiler) there's only one outcome with the last boss -
killing it. And you can save right before that.

Don't have Awakening so not sure about this, but wouldn't you need your epilogue save in order for all of your choices to be carried over seeing as two important decisions are made after a point you can no longer save.

Not everyone buys the expansion after all. It would be unwise to
release a second expansion that requires both origins and awakening to
play.

Actually, it's quite ingenious. What better way to force sales then requiring them for further content. A little lowbrow, perhaps. Then again this is the company that just announced they'll be selling people demos and betas so not like it's shocking.

trust me, They did say that even though we cant continue our romance in awakening, its still there in the code.

Toss a link then, that just seems like something a little farfetched for a Bioware dev to say so I'm a little hesitant to take such trust.

Modifié par TheMadCat, 22 mars 2010 - 09:48 .

[JaegerBane]

Aldaris951 wrote...

trust me, They did say that even though we cant continue our romance in awakening, its still there in the code.

Maybe they did, maybe they didn't. You're still making some pretty absurd jumps to conclusions.

[DhammaWings]

Aldaris951 wrote..
Someone from bioware confirmed that even though your past romances are not featured in awakening, they are still in the game in the background for the future, But at the end of awakening, there is no extra last save, basically you can only save before the ending and not after.

I'm not sure what game saves in Awakening have to do with romances carrying over in future from Origins? Where's the lie? I must be missing something?

[Gabey5]

they overhyped and misled us.

[Liquidcz]

TheMadCat wrote...

Don't have Awakening so not sure about this, but wouldn't you need your epilogue save in order for all of your choices to be carried over seeing as two important decisions are made after a point you can no longer save.

You can save right until you click on the door leading to the epilogue slides. Unless you did that one specific ending, but that sucks for importing anyway. I believe the epilogue save is a default save for import into Awakening, if you don't select a specific file yourself. 

Still I'm pretty much convinced that Awakening is simply a short side-story that won't have any real bearing upon the future story (ie second expansion, if there's any, or possibly sequel, will import Origins save).

[Arius23]

My guess is they might do a ME2 style import where you can import your character's look and history but reset the talents and skill level or come up with a whole new skill system entirely.



If this is the case they will most likely leave out any history that was made in Awakenings, which would be reasonable if they wanted to continue the story outside of Ferelden.

[Merci357]

I don't have a link, but I too recall this BW statement.



well, you could use the last autosave before you see the mother. nothing happened after that, anyway, besides killing her. So why not import that one?

Also I guess we'll see at least another patch and likely some additional DLC before they release another expansion or sequel.

[Melca36]

Aldaris951 wrote...

In an interview weeks ago, Someone from bioware confirmed that even though your past romances are not featured in awakening, they are still in the game in the background for the future, But at the end of awakening, there is no extra last save, basically you can only save before the ending and not after.

And that means thats the end of our story for this character, so we wont ever get to continue our past romances in the next game.

So bioware have lied to us when clearly this expansion was the last game this grey warden will be in.

I don't think they lied. There is supposed to be DLC. And I still think there will be another expansion by Christmas.

[dbfandillyjam]

http://www.escapistm...ge-Games-Coming



I suggest you read this before coming to such conclusions. Besides it's way too soon to know for sure.

[universalcrusader]

Merci357 wrote...

I don't have a link, but I too recall this BW statement.

well, you could use the last autosave before you see the mother. nothing happened after that, anyway, besides killing her. So why not import that one?
Also I guess we'll see at least another patch and likely some additional DLC before they release another expansion or sequel.

sorry you cant import your awakening saves i´ve tryed numerus times last night just to play it differntly but no dice you can only import your carracter from DOA not from awakening to awakening

[TheMadCat]

I'm not sure what game saves in Awakening have to do with romances
carrying over in future from Origins? Where's the lie? I must be
missing something?

He's assuming that because there is no epilogue save this is the end of the Wardens story, which in turn means no more continuation of the romance, which means Bioware lies, I guess.

You can save right until you click on the door leading to the epilogue
slides. Unless you did that one specific ending, but that sucks for
importing anyway. I believe the epilogue save is a default save for
import into Awakening, if you don't select a specific file yourself. 

Still
I'm pretty much convinced that Awakening is simply a short side-story
that won't have any real bearing upon the future story (ie second
expansion, if there's any, or possibly sequel, will import Origins
save).

Yeah I was thinking of the US ending. I'm curious, nothing seems like it would be a lead in to another story in Awakening?

I suggest you read this before coming to such conclusions. Besides it's way too soon to know for sure.

I don't get it, Ray made a joke and there was stuff said that is already known. What conclusion should someone draw from that article?

[JaegerBane]

Spear-Thrower wrote...

Unless Bioware do the 'amnesia' thing in DA2, it will be hard to use your original character again. The power levels are just too great. I had so many spells they wouldn't even fit on the bar. And taking away all this stuff without explanation is bad for immersion. ME2 got round it by having Shepard 'die' but it will be contrived doing that here.

So to cut a long story short... DA2 should be a new character.

The solution to having too many spells for the bar is not to completely make a new character. We just need a bigger bar.

I for one have always depised the cheap and nasty approach of just inventing a new character for sequels. It may have something to do with how spectacularly awful it was the way they did this in KOTOR 2 but it always struck me as a great way to mess up the richness of the tale. By the end of awakening you're a national hero greater than the likes of Loghain. Why would I want to play a peon after that?

Imagine how well ME2 would have worked had you been playing Lt Average Joe the 7th and a half human spectre. Gah.

[Liquidcz]

TheMadCat wrote...
 
Yeah I was thinking of the US ending. I'm curious, nothing seems like it would be a lead in to another story in Awakening?

Honestly I don't know. The entire Amaranthine area seems pretty insignificant to me on the global scale (if DA 2 takes place in, say, Orlais, I don't see why would the majority of Orlesians care about a town of Denerim Market Distict's size and a few farms around it). There's one major decision towards the end of the expansion, but taking it into account would probably mean the devs would have to create two totally different (and mutually exclusive) stories for the sequel/second expansion, which seems pretty impossible to me, or to make one choice canon, which would suck and I hope won't happen.

There's a hint in the epilogue that the warden's story is not yet complete, but nothing specific about what should actually happen next. It could be anything. I personally hope we will get a second expansion which will wrap up the story of the warden and his/her romance in preparation to start anew in DA 2. Unless they decide to bring the warden and his/her LI into the sequel, of course.

[Jackalofdeath]

uh not going to read walls of text here, clearly bioware will most likely handle it like they did with mass effect.



The engine will be the same, so most likely all stats and items will cross over as well.