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[DomerPyle]

star wars. for sure.

[Beeno4Life]

DomerPyle wrote...

star wars. for sure.

See wall of text on first page.  Though I respect that.

[Andaius20]

You can't really know that, without know the power out put of a Reaper. The Executor shields put out the same power output a the Sol Star! and there is what 3-4 ships of that class? S owhat if that makes them practically immune to Reaper firepower?

[mcsupersport]

Gee, cure the Genophage and unleash the Krogan masses and the Rachni horde, who could stand against the united front of both, with a Reaper support group above??



DeathStar great and all, and the supposed better ships of the Star Wars Fleets, yet the Reapers MADE THE DANG MASS EFFECT RELAYS!!!! Hence they have to have a way to travel great distances without the Relays, plus you don't really know what they are capable of at this time.......how well would the Star Wars clones stand up to indoctrination?? You Also don't know what the Dark Matter is doing and how it is being used by Reapers, so they may have a doomsday weapon of their own.



The winner would be who got the best tech to the specified location for the coming battle, and that would depend on who set up the battle between two Fantasy universes. Personally it wouldn't be a great place to camp out for either side. There is no guarantee that ME weapons would penetrate the shields of SW and vice verse. Could the deathstar survive a shot that could crater a planet like has been done in ME?? Could a SW Dreadnaugt survive a 20KG slug going close to lightspeed hitting it and turning all it's mass to energy?? Cross science, no way to really no, so it comes down to who you like best and want to win.



Ground battle?? Imperial Walkers versus Rachni or Krogan?? Droids versus Geth?? Clones versus Turians?? Who knows, again, cross tech, take you pick.



Personally, I think GLucas messed up SW so much now, that I would rather think ME would kick the pansy SW back into the past where it belongs.

[KenLyns]

Indoctrination >> Jedi mind trick  

[Rodriguer2000]

cant compare them i love them both although star wars did change alot which ruins the movies for me guess ill have to wait for mass effect 3 and see if they ruin that too

[D.I.Y_Death]

Honestly, Mass Effect like like Starwars on crack. I mean ME has mass effect fields which is so far beyond most Starwars technology it hurts, combined with the new Turian particle canon and I just don't see how a Starwars vessel is going to win when the only Starwars vessels with real shields are massive battle cruisers and even then they blow up super easy against heavy blaster canon fire, which is the equivalent of a 5 megaton nuke going off, much like the mass effect projectile weapons humans use. Don't even get me started on the new Turian particle beam weapon you get for the Normandy, the only thing in Starwars that has a constant beam weapon is the Deathstar.



In a foot battle Biotics are just as or more destructive then most force powers and the mass effect field weapons will chew through most armor.



I just don't see Starwars winning due to the Mass Effect technology and how effective it would be against Starwars weak shield technology.

[consequences1999]

Now I want to see an Ewok wrestle a Volus o.o



Also couldnt the Geth hack the droid fighters and assimilate their forces?

[ImperialOperative]

Beeno4Life wrote...

So, you are in essence saying that Star Wars would win because thye don't need to set foot on land?  Have you ever seen Star Wars, by chance?  Also, the "Star Wars has a better fleet" thing, when you factor in all of the reapers, they are really toast.  Now, let's imagine that the Death Star is chilling somewhere in space.  Reapers rollin, backed up by the 6o something combined dreadnoughts, and the hundreds upon hundreds of cruisers, heavy cruisers, frigates, and fighters, that they'd jsut lose?  You realise that every fighter is outfitted with disruptor torpedoes, designed to specifically take out larger ships, right?  Also, that said fighters travel in huge waves to overwhelm larger ship defenses and fighters, and when supported by frigates, cruisers, and dreadnought fire, would be able to destroy more ships incredible quickly?  Also, let's not forget the Normandy SR-2, with stealth systems, advanced Silaris plating, and an adapted version of a reaper gun, which is invisible to anything but the naked eye.

Let me spell it out really simply for you.

IT. DEPENDS. ON. WHO. WRITES. WHAT.

There has been so much written on Star Wars that I couldn't begin to list the amount of super weapons or communicate the mind-bogglingly enourmous size of the Imperial Navy (and the diversity of ships within their force).

All I can give you is that it's on a scale BEYOND Mass Effect.  These IP's cannot "get into a fight" because Mass Effect is inherently smaller scale and low-power.

The reapers can shoot molten metal?  Oh that's cool, well the Eclipse class SSD has a 17KM long rail laser that can destroy a third of the surface of a planet in a single shot, In offensive weaponry, the Eclipse was outfitted with 550 laser cannons, 500 turbo-cannons, 75 ion cannons, 10 gravity well projectors, 100 tractor beams, a shielding system with an output power equal to that of a star, 150,000 soldiers stationed on-board, 5 pre-fab garrisons (land-bases), 100 AT-AT's, and 708,000 crew members.

A class 2x hyperdrive allows for travel of 120,000 light years in a few days or so.

Like I said, POWER OF THE PLOT.

Get it through your head.

FFS vs threads are so stupid.

Modifié par ImperialOperative, 23 mars 2010 - 05:46 .

[ObserverStatus]

Judging by the opening trailer, Grunt could probably kill the sarlac.

[DreadAzathoth]

Episodes 4 5 and 6 beat ME 1 and ME 2 beats episode 1 2 3 but 4 5 and 6 and 2 are both my favorite sci-fi things.

[DreadAzathoth]

oh nm I was being ADD man and didn't look at the thread intro.

[xDarkicex]

Starwars was New never been done before everything storyline special effects they where all breath taking
Mass effect Did not have this effect on the world or me.

Star wars for the simple reason that it has a better storyline has lasted the test of time and Really invented a new world with tons of weapons that had never been thought up before had tons of life forms not just humanoid ones, the worlds are also of a much larger scale and there setup for galactic rule was much more believable.

Also the scale and size of even the rebel fleets could put up a fight with citadel's fleet
and the republics army was insanely large, and lets not forget the jedi council and the force.
or lightsabers that can deflect bullets.
The Clone army is never ending in theory they could just keep pumping them out so Starwars wins

And if I was wrong about some of the names of the things in starwars I am sorry I have not watched them since I was a kid many moons ago.

Modifié par xDarkicex, 23 mars 2010 - 06:07 .

[Moldy Poptarts]

My vote is on the Tyranids....oh wait a sec....

[xDarkicex]

Warhammer LOL Evil space marines FTW

[D.I.Y_Death]

xDarkicex wrote...

Starwars was New never been done before everything storyline special effects they where all breath taking
Mass effect Did not have this effect on the world or me.

Star wars for the simple reason that it has a better storyline has lasted the test of time and Really invented a new world with tons of weapons that had never been thought up before had tons of life forms not just humanoid ones, the worlds are also of a much larger scale and there setup for galactic rule was much more believable.

Also the scale and size of even the rebel fleets could put up a fight with citadel's fleet
and the republics army was insanely large, and lets not forget the jedi council and the force.
or lightsabers that can deflect bullets.
The Clone army is never ending in theory they could just keep pumping them out so Starwars wins

And if I was wrong about some of the names of the things in starwars I am sorry I have not watched them since I was a kid many moons ago.

Krogan>Republic army numbers. Remember Krogan breed so fast that they were a galactic threat when outside of hostile environments. Then include the Rachni which were also a galactic threat and you've got yourself superior numbers who are toguher, faster and have a culture based entirely on death and destruction (Krogan, can't speak for the Rachni.)

In terms of plot you can't seriously tell me rebels fighting an evil empire who uses terror to rule the galaxy is better then ominous machines manipulating the life of all organics for milenia. At best they're equal.

In terms of execution you can't even argue that Starwars was implemented correctly, hell the only reason why the first film was decent is because of massive editing from Lucas's ex-wife. Phantom Menace was a perfect example of what happens when people aren't there to fix George's blunders. Starwars has massive potential that was realized in the form of books and comics, the movies were laughable and only withstood the test of time because of their great special effects for the time they were created and because a lot of people grew up with Starwars.
It's kinda like Bragon Ball Z, the show itself is HORRIBLE but because we all grew up on it and because it's one of those good old classics that helped pave the way for other cool stuff it's been hyped to be better then it actually is.

Anyone with any decent background knowledge on Starwars should know that in a fight, their armor and shields wouldn't hold up to a projectile being hurled at 1-1.3% of the speed of light or the particle weapons that the Turians reverse engineered from Sovergn.
Hell, Starwars lasers don't even travel at light speed and use a specific kind of gas to burn holes, they aren't even real lasers.

[Moldy Poptarts]

In light of star wars failing at making lasers, I will stick with my vote for tyranids. All shall fear the great big om nomy nomy death.

[xDarkicex]

Krogens have the genophage so there numbers are so thin they are no threat now rachni well in my game they are dead and gone.

Though the tech maybe more advanced in ME This is mainly due to it being a way newer story I would bet dollars to donuts that if they where made around the same time a lot of the ideas behind there tech would be close to the same Star wars has a way more populated and Universe with a lot more life how much of it would be useful in an all out war IDK but I do know it adds to how immersive the story is.

Modifié par xDarkicex, 23 mars 2010 - 06:30 .

[Moldy Poptarts]

just give the krogan back their fertility and even more incentive to be hump crazed

[Blackveldt]

Oh, my. And I thought I was a nerd. While it's amusing and can yield some interesting conversation, etc, ultimately, I try not to get too serious about these kinds of debates. It's basically arguing who can write a better superhero than the other (as an example), which, when you think about it, is a rather fruitless endeavor. I would prefer to judge them based on the writing of the characters and plots, not the super powers (this does not include the creativeness or originality of a 'super power'--biotics and Jedis are both very inventive in their own rights). And I say powers because it's a heck of a lot more difficult to accurately and wholly gauge/explain the technology of something like the Death Star as it is more fiction than science whereas the Mass Effect universe tends to be more science than fiction (or fantasy, rather).

Besides, I consider Star Wars and Mass Effect to be much too different for a serious comparison. Mass Effect is much more similar to Star Trek, but again, I don't bother with a comparison. After all, the plots of Star Trek has yielded the race of Q, time travel, superior science and technology (since that's one of the main points of the show(s)), and the Borg (among other things).

And just a bone to pick with the Star Wars movies, I never liked the fact that I could see the bullets (specifically, their trajectories). I do understand it was for cinematic value and whatnot, but it had the effect of making them appear slow or easy to dodge, etc. In any case, I'd rather don armor equipped with kinetic barriers / shields than have to deflect or dodge bullets in the first place.

Modifié par Blackveldt, 23 mars 2010 - 06:36 .

[Aisynia]

Average Mass Effect fleet just isn't advanced enough to stand up against the average Star Wars fleet, though if the Reapers attacked the star Wars galaxy en masse on one of their extinction binges, the Star Wars galaxy would be ****ing doomed.

[Desertborn]

Moldy Poptarts wrote...

My vote is on the Tyranids....oh wait a sec....

the Krogan horde has nothing on a single 'nid splinter fleet.

[Moldy Poptarts]

Nothing has anything on the nids...well..maybe the reap...errr...necrons but they kinda avoid each other. Honestly, I think I might take a splinter fleet against both Mass Effect and Starwars universes simultaneously, lol.

[Massadonious1]

The Borg.