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You can see a female hanar in the game... go to Omega and pick up a copy of Fornax Image IPB

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umm... are you SURE thats a female..... ugh... let me get that image out of my head....
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Its Blasto's LI from The Jellyfish Stings Image IPB

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Fat Headed Wolf wrote...

This thread is just begging for brain-meltingly good-ish fan art.

I have some half done but I didn't know what a female is suppose to look like so I just rounded the upper legs. Mmmm, plump drumsticks.....

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Solomen wrote...

MSeven wrote...


You can see a female hanar in the game... go to Omega and pick up a copy of Fornax Image IPB

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umm... are you SURE thats a female..... ugh... let me get that image out of my head....
:whistle:


Its Blasto's LI from The Jellyfish Stings Image IPB


but it has a penis....

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wait wait, I don't get this. alot of you guys are saying that female Turians would have a big waist. but when Garrus was complimenting femShep's waist he said "very Supportive", that gave me the impression that female Turians have a small waist. maybe not smaller then males, maybe just the same size as males.

Modifié par Marilynn-22, 24 mars 2010 - 05:48 .


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The "very supportive waist" thing came off to me as him trying to find a compliment for a human woman, and, him in all his unsure awkwardness thought of something he might say to a Turian woman that he is hoping Shepard might approve of as well. Remember, he says he isn't really physically attracted to humans all that much, but is interested in Shepard because of his respect for her and the bond they have built up. He makes it clear he has no idea what he is doing in pursuing a relationship with a human woman, and has no idea about how humans relationships work or how it is going to work for them physically, so he doesnt really know what to say and instead uses something that works for turians.

Noticing something like a strong supportive waist seems like something an animal may look for in a potential mate, as opposed to a female who looks to have a weaker less supportive waist, the stronger looking female would be the more attractive prospect in baring the males child. For some reason I get the vibe that this is the what turians may find attractive in their mates, strong features for their warrior/soldier society, and seems to imply female turians do have broader waists and it is something male turians look for and like.

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AmyBA wrote...

The "very supportive waist" thing came off to me as him trying to find a compliment for a human woman, and, him in all his unsure awkwardness thought of something he might say to a Turian woman that he is hoping Shepard might approve of as well. Remember, he says he isn't really physically attracted to humans all that much, but is interested in Shepard because of his respect for her and the bond they have built up. He makes it clear he has no idea what he is doing in pursuing a relationship with a human woman, and has no idea about how humans relationships work or how it is going to work for them physically, so he doesnt really know what to say and instead uses something that works for turians.

Noticing something like a strong supportive waist seems like something an animal may look for in a potential mate, as opposed to a female who looks to have a weaker less supportive waist, the stronger looking female would be the more attractive prospect in baring the males child. For some reason I get the vibe that this is the what turians may find attractive in their mates, strong features for their warrior/soldier socitey, and seems to imply female turians do have broader waists and it is something male turians look for and like.

Indeed.

The turian equivalent of a human female's cliche'd "child bearing hips"

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I'm pretty sure the closest animals you could compare Turians to, are birds. Reptiles don't do them justice because reptiles can't self-regulate their body temperature. You can see plenty of Turians in casual outfits, which are not outfitted with temp regulating technology (or so I'd assume). That means Turians feel comfortable both on Omega and their homeworld - two very different environments. They must be able to self-regulate their body temperature.

That being said, giving birth in a Turian's body would be ... troublesome. Yes, Garrus says the female turian he sparred with had flexibility, but if you think back to Grunt's comments about Turians, he says their outer shells are quite hard. So for a scale-covered body to go through birthing another potentially scale-covered body would be a nightmare. It would make sense for them to lay eggs.

Also, if you think about it, hardened scales covering the thorax means no room for mammary gland expansion due to milk accumulation (or whatever their dextro-amino equivalent of milk is).

If I had to describe female turians based on speculations, I'd say different colours, wider waist and smaller than males in terms of height.

Modifié par BeresaadSoldier, 24 mars 2010 - 01:43 .


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Who's to say Turian children can't eat solid food right from the start? Or that there isn't some hybrid birth/egg laying that protects mother from all those sharp bits of a Turian? Or that their born super early to keep size down? Although if you think about it the human body has to jump through hoops to get the job done so there may be simpler solution to all this.

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BeresaadSoldier wrote...

I'm pretty sure the closest animals you could compare Turians to, are birds. Reptiles don't do them justice because reptiles can't self-regulate their body temperature. You can see plenty of Turians in casual outfits, which are not outfitted with temp regulating technology (or so I'd assume). That means Turians feel comfortable both on Omega and their homeworld - two very different environments. They must be able to self-regulate their body temperature.

That being said, giving birth in a Turian's body would be ... troublesome. Yes, Garrus says the female turian he sparred with had flexibility, but if you think back to Grunt's comments about Turians, he says their outer shells are quite hard. So for a scale-covered body to go through birthing another potentially scale-covered body would be a nightmare. It would make sense for them to lay eggs.

Also, if you think about it, hardened scales covering the thorax means no room for mammary gland expansion due to milk accumulation (or whatever their dextro-amino equivalent of milk is).

If I had to describe female turians based on speculations, I'd say different colours, wider waist and smaller than males in terms of height.


Just beacuse they have scales doesn't mean they are born with it. Some furry animals are born without fur, birds without feathers etc.

There is no implication, anywhere that they lay eggs. Animals which lay eggs, like birds and reptiles, usually don't have an hormone driven sex drive like mammals do, turians seems to have this.

There are some very rare animals on earth though, like the platypus, which is a mammal that lay eggs. So maybe turians are a "reptile" that born their babies alive.

Modifié par mundus66, 24 mars 2010 - 09:38 .


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AmyBA wrote...

The "very supportive waist" thing came off to me as him trying to find a compliment for a human woman, and, him in all his unsure awkwardness thought of something he might say to a Turian woman that he is hoping Shepard might approve of as well. Remember, he says he isn't really physically attracted to humans all that much, but is interested in Shepard because of his respect for her and the bond they have built up. He makes it clear he has no idea what he is doing in pursuing a relationship with a human woman, and has no idea about how humans relationships work or how it is going to work for them physically, so he doesnt really know what to say and instead uses something that works for turians.

Noticing something like a strong supportive waist seems like something an animal may look for in a potential mate, as opposed to a female who looks to have a weaker less supportive waist, the stronger looking female would be the more attractive prospect in baring the males child. For some reason I get the vibe that this is the what turians may find attractive in their mates, strong features for their warrior/soldier society, and seems to imply female turians do have broader waists and it is something male turians look for and like.

damn, good point Image IPB

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Marilynn-22 wrote...

AmyBA wrote...

The "very supportive waist" thing came off to me as him trying to find a compliment for a human woman, and, him in all his unsure awkwardness thought of something he might say to a Turian woman that he is hoping Shepard might approve of as well. Remember, he says he isn't really physically attracted to humans all that much, but is interested in Shepard because of his respect for her and the bond they have built up. He makes it clear he has no idea what he is doing in pursuing a relationship with a human woman, and has no idea about how humans relationships work or how it is going to work for them physically, so he doesnt really know what to say and instead uses something that works for turians.

Noticing something like a strong supportive waist seems like something an animal may look for in a potential mate, as opposed to a female who looks to have a weaker less supportive waist, the stronger looking female would be the more attractive prospect in baring the males child. For some reason I get the vibe that this is the what turians may find attractive in their mates, strong features for their warrior/soldier society, and seems to imply female turians do have broader waists and it is something male turians look for and like.

damn, good point Image IPB


Or he likes other features, but he won't tell it, becasue he could offend her. It may be more cultural than biological. He likes many things, but does not know, which one is neutral in human culture. He may likes her hmmm more feminine parts, but asi in our culture it is aslo more appropriate to say "nice eyes" than "nice boobs".

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mundus66 wrote...
Just beacuse they have scales doesn't mean they are born with it. Some furry animals are born without fur, birds without feathers etc.

Both are fair points, but I think you misunderstood what I was trying to say. I don't think the babies will have scales when they're born. It wouldn't make sense physiologically. Just like it doesn't make sense to have our bones rock solid when humans are born. Instead they have strong shafts and epyphiseal plates on each end to allow them to grow. However, back to the turians: the mothers have scales, right? And their body is hard, according to Grunt (a krogan). To give birth either some sort of hormonal softening of tissues would have to occur, for the newborn to get out, or the newborn would have to be very small. Neither of those make more sense than laying eggs, however.

It's just speculation anyway. Would be nice if we get some more information on this instead of us doing guesswork.

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BeresaadSoldier wrote...

Also, if you think about it, hardened scales covering the thorax means no room for mammary gland expansion due to milk accumulation (or whatever their dextro-amino equivalent of milk is).


If they're supposed to be bird like they shouldn't have mammareis.  Birds feed their fledglings by regurgitating partially digested food into their mouth.

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If dinosaurs (specifically velociraptors) had not been wiped out and had chance to evolve an intelligent, bipedal form, I imagine they might look a bit like Turians. But Turians also have the metallic carpapace and small waist to thorax ratio and mandibles are somewhat ant-like. Ultimately though, Turians aren't like anything we have - they're just Turians.

I like the female sketch, btw...

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Solomen wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...

What do Turians resemble here on earth? Is it birds or reptiles or both?


Birds and theropods... well technically birds are theropods.  Image IPB


Really? Last time I checked birds didn't have razor sharp teeth, (at least not where I live) and Turians can't fly.

That would be quite a twist in the game though, the Reapers bieng defeated by flying turians.

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All I know of Turians is that Mordin said not to um...ingest. Ewww.

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That sketch was really good. I was surprised that they were no female Turians in ME2. The reasons for Salarians and Krogan females being sparse were made known in game. From what we know of Turians, their females shouldn't be sparse at all. It seems they'd have similar ration to humans and quarians.

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If they made an appearance in ME3 and looked like Jarcander's sketch then I wouldn't be upset all all, quite the contrary in fact.

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RigAudio wrote...

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That is quite possibly the most disturbing thing I've seen on this forum after the Tali sex doll.

I see your Tali pregnancy and raise you a giant, poorly-drawn Tali.

And yes, Turian females. Would be nice to see, but not to romance.

I'm only interested in Garrus...........<_<

OH DON'T ACT LIKE YOU NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT IT! Everyone is gay for Garrus......

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Jarcander wrote...

Ah yes, Turian females. One of the more popular threads to reappear. Here's the sketch from the old topic once more:

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I think they shouldn't wear underwear.


I remember that thread and still love this pic.

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Reptilian Rob wrote...

RigAudio wrote...

Bann Duncan wrote...

That is quite possibly the most disturbing thing I've seen on this forum after the Tali sex doll.

I see your Tali pregnancy and raise you a giant, poorly-drawn Tali.

And yes, Turian females. Would be nice to see, but not to romance.

I'm only interested in Garrus...........<_<

OH DON'T ACT LIKE YOU NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT IT! Everyone is gay for Garrus......

Denying that would be foolish. But a female version of Garrus? Yeah... Definitely. It's unfair that FemShep can have a turian and MaleShep can't.

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Sharn01 wrote...

Jarcander wrote...

Ah yes, Turian females. One of the more popular threads to reappear. Here's the sketch from the old topic once more:

Image IPB

I think they shouldn't wear underwear.


I remember that thread and still love this pic.



I think the pic would be a good choice.

Other than that, she needs to have the back hump or w/e

Turians shold not look different because of gender, being reptile/avian, the species favors utalitarian purposes unlike some mamals. Turian females should not differ much from males, maybe a bit slimmer, or taller, besides that they should not be too feminine in any way.


Now......when it comes to drell...I have no idea, and I dont mind drell females never being shown....those are hard to imagine :P

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Solomen wrote...
 Judging by Garrus's banter there is definite dimorphism in the species. 


For once, I fully support BioWare going lazy on this issue. That is, disclosing in ME3, that we've already encountered female Turians on multiple occasions and just couldn't tell the difference because there is no significant dimorphism.

Because only this approach can be consitent with the Mass Effect lore, which has already suffered greatly in ME2.
 
If you read into the Codex about the Turians, you's understand that there is little to no social discrimination between the genders in the Turian society. Therefore the females are supposed to hold pretty much the same social roles, positions in life, jobs... And Shepard was just bound to run into some of female Turian C-Sec officers, mercs, bystnaders...

Salarian females we never see because they all dwell on the Salarian core worlds and have just two occupations: reproduction and political leadership. That's where definite gender dimorphism is to be found.

Krogan females are not that different from males by appearence, as suggested by the shape of the dead Krogan female we encounter on Mordin's loyalty mission, by their social role, defined by the genophage, prohibits them from leaving their camps. But it is not so strict as with the Salarians, so there may be exceptions. But if we encounter a krogan female in ME3, there must be a damn good plot reason for that.


On another note, I support a female Turian spectre as squadmate in Mass Effect 3!

Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 27 mai 2010 - 12:36 .


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Reptilian Rob wrote...

RigAudio wrote...

Bann Duncan wrote...

That is quite possibly the most disturbing thing I've seen on this forum after the Tali sex doll.

I see your Tali pregnancy and raise you a giant, poorly-drawn Tali.

And yes, Turian females. Would be nice to see, but not to romance.

I'm only interested in Garrus...........<_<

OH DON'T ACT LIKE YOU NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT IT! Everyone is gay for Garrus......

Only you Rob... only you

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NitrAce wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

RigAudio wrote...

Bann Duncan wrote...

That is quite possibly the most disturbing thing I've seen on this forum after the Tali sex doll.

I see your Tali pregnancy and raise you a giant, poorly-drawn Tali.

And yes, Turian females. Would be nice to see, but not to romance.

I'm only interested in Garrus...........<_<

OH DON'T ACT LIKE YOU NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT IT! Everyone is gay for Garrus......

Only you Rob... only you

I understand your denial, I really do.