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[Myschief23]

I found the Hammerhead easy to control (once I ignored the tutorial and looked up the controls), agile, fun to move in, but not what I wanted.

I picked up ME2 without playing ME1. When I got to the krogan homeworld and began talking about their vehicles, I was reminded of my childhood. I eventually picked up ME1 and my first trip exploring in the Mako had me giddy. I was six years old again and it was Christmas.

When I first heard about the Hammerhead I was expecting the same class of vehicle. I was hoping for a vehicle with three speeds... braced, mosey, and ramming. I wanted a vehicle that was "Tonka Tough." Instead I got a plastic model (at least it wasn't a paper airplane).

Naming schemes are important in a setting where the playable characters have mitary ties. Vehicle naming conventions are typically governed by class. ME did a very good job of remembering this until Firewalker. The hovertank should have been named for a type of dolphin (sleek, graceful, and agile) rather than a shark.

I also disliked the missle launcher as weapon. It has been made clear that mass accelerators are the weapon of choices in the setting with "heavy weapons" mostly useful due to exotic munitions. Missles are slow and far too suceptible to point defense systems to be viable as a main weapon.

I just hope Bioware decides give us DLC that will allow me to find an old tonka left over from the rebellions.

[jakenou]

For something that is FREE, I think it's pretty awesome because of the price tag. I just think of it is a bunch of mini games really. Sure they aren't anything to write home about, but they are all pretty short and simple which keeps them from getting tedious. It's fun to do something a little different, and getting some XP, credits and lewt out of it doesn't hurt either. It's a good little boost for those wanting to level cap in their game. The only thing that is disappointing is the corresponding release of the costume pack which wasn't free (even though it's pretty cheap), but was a just couple pairs of sunglasses! How can you compare that to the FREE Firewalker pack??

[llinsane1ll]

lastpawn wrote...

llinsane1ll wrote...

Here's a poll

social.bioware.com/914433/polls/

And here's something you might want to keep in mind if you want to put together a helpful opinion poll.

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Likert_scale

Yes I know, about an hour after I made this thread, I realized I should have been more fair with the options

[llinsane1ll]

jkthunder wrote...

For something that is FREE, I think it's pretty awesome because of the price tag. I just think of it is a bunch of mini games really. Sure they aren't anything to write home about, but they are all pretty short and simple which keeps them from getting tedious. It's fun to do something a little different, and getting some XP, credits and lewt out of it doesn't hurt either. It's a good little boost for those wanting to level cap in their game. The only thing that is disappointing is the corresponding release of the costume pack which wasn't free (even though it's pretty cheap), but was a just couple pairs of sunglasses! How can you compare that to the FREE Firewalker pack??

How about reading some of the post (especially page 1) that it isn't about it being free or paid, it's just the lack of content they gave us for something they worked on for months and said was going to be awesome.

[IntrepidProdigy]

The only thing really worth it in this DLC was the extra +biotic damage bonus you get (making the total in the game 6).

[Darth Drago]

“The Hammerhead is a heavy assault vehicle that hovers over the battlefield at up to 120 kilometers per hour and features a guided missile system ensuring accuracy even during aggressive maneuvering.”

Three examples of a heavy assault vehicle two real the other fictional.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Heavy_Assault_Vehicle/wheeled_A5_Juggernaut
http://www.olive-drab.com/idphoto/id_photos_aav7.php
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m551a1.htm

The Hammerhead is not in the same category, not even close.

After trying to play it for a second time through I stand by my original post.
http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/103/index/1866697/15#1874981

This thing is garbage.

Modifié par Darth Drago, 31 mars 2010 - 02:02 .

[shepard1119]

Im not perticulary mad because it was free but, i am disapointed with the whole DLC

[SymbolicGamer]

Very dissapointed. Most of the missions were almost exactly the same and only two had any actual enemies.

Still, it's free. So I'm happy I got it.

[uberdowzen]

The DLC is free!!!



Let's take a minute to compare:

Oblivion Horse Armor. $2. Completely Useless armour that has only got cosmetic appeal.

Mass Effect 2 Hammerhead. Free. 5 pretty fun missions which probably would take you about 45-60 minutes to get through.



Yeah, Bioware screwed us over big time.

[TJSolo]

uberdowzen wrote...

The DLC is free!!!

Let's take a minute to compare:
Oblivion Horse Armor. $2. Completely Useless armour that has only got cosmetic appeal.
Mass Effect 2 Hammerhead. Free. 5 pretty fun missions which probably would take you about 45-60 minutes to get through.

Yeah, Bioware screwed us over big time.

Free is not a pass or excuse from feedback

Modifié par TJSolo, 31 mars 2010 - 02:56 .

[uberdowzen]

TJSolo wrote...

uberdowzen wrote...

The DLC is free!!!

Let's take a minute to compare:
Oblivion Horse Armor. $2. Completely Useless armour that has only got cosmetic appeal.
Mass Effect 2 Hammerhead. Free. 5 pretty fun missions which probably would take you about 45-60 minutes to get through.

Yeah, Bioware screwed us over big time.

Free is not a pass or excuse from feedback

But my point is it's not bad, it's just short. I think feedback and constructive critisicm is fine, I don't think complaining that Bioware betrayed you is fine.

[MoonChildTheUnholy]

uberdowzen wrote...

The DLC is free!!!

Let's take a minute to compare:
Oblivion Horse Armor. $2. Completely Useless armour that has only got cosmetic appeal.
Mass Effect 2 Hammerhead. Free. 5 pretty fun missions which probably would take you about 45-60 minutes to get through.

Yeah, Bioware screwed us over big time.

The Hammerhead should have come with the game already like ME1 had the Mako, so how do you know its free, because of release dates companies tend to leave content to add later like this one, so its not free you payed for the game.
The general excuse now is "oh don´t troll its free so it can suck.. stfu and gtfo" rofl, some of you can be really blind.

[TJSolo]

uberdowzen wrote...
But my point is it's not bad, it's just short. I think feedback and constructive critisicm is fine, I don't think complaining that Bioware betrayed you is fine.

People had more problems with it other than it just being short. There are some complaints about it with very little complaining.

[uberdowzen]

MoonChildTheUnholy wrote...

uberdowzen wrote...

The DLC is free!!!

Let's take a minute to compare:
Oblivion Horse Armor. $2. Completely Useless armour that has only got cosmetic appeal.
Mass Effect 2 Hammerhead. Free. 5 pretty fun missions which probably would take you about 45-60 minutes to get through.

Yeah, Bioware screwed us over big time.

The Hammerhead should have come with the game already like ME1 had the Mako, so how do you know its free, because of release dates companies tend to leave content to add later like this one, so its not free you payed for the game.
The general excuse now is "oh don´t troll its free so it can suck.. stfu and gtfo" rofl, some of you can be really blind.

So if the Hammerhead DLC had come in it's current form with the original game you would have had no problem with it?

[MoonChildTheUnholy]

uberdowzen wrote...

MoonChildTheUnholy wrote...

uberdowzen wrote...

The DLC is free!!!

Let's take a minute to compare:
Oblivion Horse Armor. $2. Completely Useless armour that has only got cosmetic appeal.
Mass Effect 2 Hammerhead. Free. 5 pretty fun missions which probably would take you about 45-60 minutes to get through.

Yeah, Bioware screwed us over big time.

The Hammerhead should have come with the game already like ME1 had the Mako, so how do you know its free, because of release dates companies tend to leave content to add later like this one, so its not free you payed for the game.
The general excuse now is "oh don´t troll its free so it can suck.. stfu and gtfo" rofl, some of you can be really blind.

So if the Hammerhead DLC had come in it's current form with the original game you would have had no problem with it?

No! what i´m saying is that people who come up with the its "free" argument should look back at ME1 where we had a vehicle from launch and we could play with it on most missions, now the HH has nothing to do with what we had with the Mako, the Mako wasn´t perfect but the way they introduced the HH is not better in any way.

[uberdowzen]

MoonChildTheUnholy wrote...

uberdowzen wrote...

MoonChildTheUnholy wrote...

uberdowzen wrote...

The DLC is free!!!

Let's take a minute to compare:
Oblivion Horse Armor. $2. Completely Useless armour that has only got cosmetic appeal.
Mass Effect 2 Hammerhead. Free. 5 pretty fun missions which probably would take you about 45-60 minutes to get through.

Yeah, Bioware screwed us over big time.

The Hammerhead should have come with the game already like ME1 had the Mako, so how do you know its free, because of release dates companies tend to leave content to add later like this one, so its not free you payed for the game.
The general excuse now is "oh don´t troll its free so it can suck.. stfu and gtfo" rofl, some of you can be really blind.

So if the Hammerhead DLC had come in it's current form with the original game you would have had no problem with it?

No! what i´m saying is that people who come up with the its "free" argument should look back at ME1 where we had a vehicle from launch and we could play with it on most missions, now the HH has nothing to do with what we had with the Mako, the Mako wasn´t perfect but the way they introduced the HH is not better in any way.

The Mako sections of the main missions in ME1 were about the same length as this DLC and honestly I could have done without the mako sections on the uncharted worlds. And in my opinion, the Mako was cool to have but not actually that fun to drive. I don't think that ME2 lost anything by not having a vehicle from the start and the DLC is just a bonus. And as has been pointed out, I don't think this is the last we've seen of the Hammerhead. I'd fully expect future DLC to have missions involving the HH; this is more of an introduction. I am willing to admit I'm wrong though.

[sammcl]

Mako sections in main missions were alright, they weren't so long as to be tedious and they made sense in the context of the mission. Mako on uncharted planets was rubbish, just a very poorly executed means of obtaining some cash, salvage and exp. Firewalker missions have more in common with uncharted Mako than main mission Mako. They just felt arbitrary and pointless, and most importantly, boring.

As for the "it's free, no complaining" excuse, don't judge content on it's price tag, judge it on it's merits, is it good or bad? I think it's bad, if it was packaged when the game shipped I would be equally disappointed. I'm not mad at Bioware for it being bad, it's totally optional, I can ignore it but I won't try to justify it's poor quality with the fact that it is free or it might lead to better stuff, i really doubt that by the way, any future HH content will be a hard sell for me.

After you've judged it, THEN decide if it is worth the asking price.

[uberdowzen]

sammcl wrote...

Mako sections in main missions were alright, they weren't so long as to be tedious and they made sense in the context of the mission. Mako on uncharted planets was rubbish, just a very poorly executed means of obtaining some cash, salvage and exp. Firewalker missions have more in common with uncharted Mako than main mission Mako. They just felt arbitrary and pointless, and most importantly, boring.
As for the "it's free, no complaining" excuse, don't judge content on it's price tag, judge it on it's merits, is it good or bad? I think it's bad, if it was packaged when the game shipped I would be equally disappointed. I'm not mad at Bioware for it being bad, it's totally optional, I can ignore it but I won't try to justify it's poor quality with the fact that it is free or it might lead to better stuff, i really doubt that by the way, any future HH content will be a hard sell for me.
After you've judged it, THEN decide if it is worth the asking price.

But my point is if it's free, isn't it worth the price (e.g. nothing) by default?

[yoomazir]

uberdowzen wrote...

But my point is if it's free, isn't it worth the price (e.g. nothing) by default?

no because that was supposed to come WITH the game you bought, and it isn't worth even if it was "free".

[uberdowzen]

yoomazir wrote...

uberdowzen wrote...

But my point is if it's free, isn't it worth the price (e.g. nothing) by default?

no because that was supposed to come WITH the game you bought, and it isn't worth even if it was "free".

1. It wasn't supposed to come with the game you bought, they always said it was going to be DLC they did later on.
2. That's very harsh. It wasn't the greatest thing in the world but I had a fun hour going through it.

[sammcl]

uberdowzen wrote...

But my point is if it's free, isn't it worth the price (e.g. nothing) by default?

It is indeed worth the price, unless you have limited downloads or hard drive space, or really don't want the firewalker markers on your galaxy map. That doesn't mean it's quality DLC though, and that was my point, the fact that something's free doesn't mean it is valuable, i went to a career fair a couple of weeks back, of course there was free junk like keyrings, toys, pens etc. Keyrings and toys are junk, you only need one keyring and who needs a cheap foam toy, pens have a use. All the items were free but the pens are more valuable than the keyrings and toys.

Zaeed, Normandy crash site, cerberus armour, Arc projector and Firewalker are all free, Zaeed and the Arc projector are pens, the rest are toys or keyrings. Normandy crash site was boring, run around collecting dog tags WHOOO. Cerberus armour can go either way, if you don't mind being unable to see shepard's face it can be decent, otherwise it's pointless unless bioware patches in a toggle helmet option.

[uberdowzen]

sammcl wrote...

uberdowzen wrote...

But my point is if it's free, isn't it worth the price (e.g. nothing) by default?

It is indeed worth the price, unless you have limited downloads or hard drive space, or really don't want the firewalker markers on your galaxy map. That doesn't mean it's quality DLC though, and that was my point, the fact that something's free doesn't mean it is valuable, i went to a career fair a couple of weeks back, of course there was free junk like keyrings, toys, pens etc. Keyrings and toys are junk, you only need one keyring and who needs a cheap foam toy, pens have a use. All the items were free but the pens are more valuable than the keyrings and toys.

Zaeed, Normandy crash site, cerberus armour, Arc projector and Firewalker are all free, Zaeed and the Arc projector are pens, the rest are toys or keyrings. Normandy crash site was boring, run around collecting dog tags WHOOO. Cerberus armour can go either way, if you don't mind being unable to see shepard's face it can be decent, otherwise it's pointless unless bioware patches in a toggle helmet option.

Wait, what was wrong with Zaeed?

[exxxed]

uberdowzen wrote...

But my point is if it's free, isn't it worth the price (e.g. nothing) by default?

 Ok, now take a second and think about what you said..., good, now compare this DLC (free) with another one based on a vehicle named Mako, i'll give you a hint , Asteroid X57, yeah i'm talking about Bring Down The Sky (also free), one takes about 10 minutes to complete and the other takes about 1.5 - 2 hours.

 You can't justify the quality of a product based on the price (or lack of it), plus the vehicle sections were an integral part of the Mass Effect franchise (or so i was lead to believe ), the sequel lacked of it all together only to tease us with this tiny mini-pack so Bio/EA can sell us more missions later, while the Mako had tons of missions before Bring Down The Sky, and they still made that DLC awesome while it was free...

 Take care!

[AphoticCosmos]

The Hammerhead is a great vehicle, way more fun than the Mako could ever be.

The missions were a bit boring, though, and firing off guided rockets requires no skill. Can we have a Mass Accelerator on the Hammerhead, please? And can we have missions with enemies?

Can we also have some planetary exploration requiring the Hammerhead? That was the major redeeming feature of the Mako - the vehicle itself was utter crap and defied all the laws of physics, but the planets it explored were pretty cool.

Still, it's free, and it was a good few missions to establish the capabilities, controls and firepower of the Hammerhead for future DLC. I'm not complaining, just pointing out that BioWare needs to capitalise on these solid building blocks to make the Hammerhead fun

Modifié par AphoticCosmos, 31 mars 2010 - 10:32 .