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#201
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Don't know exactly. I can't get passed to missions with enemies on hardcore lol. Will try again another time, maybe dropping the difficulty to normal just to pass it. -.-

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Mimaiselphenai wrote...
They could have turned it into a glorified Pong


...that's what the countdown timer is for. ^_^

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I found this dlc cool, the control of the vehicle is pretty good (much better than mako days). What trully disapointed me is the lack of conversations. It felt like those missions you find by scanning unexplored planets. Does this means that all future dlc missions will be like that?? hmmm better this than nothing.. at least can ease abit my hunger for more mass effect.

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Just_mike wrote...

Hammerhead missions DLC was ok. It wasn't groundbreaking, but it was good enough.


Finally, someone reasonable. I agree completely. I didn't get any less than what I expected: Five N7 Missions and a much-needed improvement of the Mako. It was fun while it lasted, but I'm hoping we'll see some in-depth story missions featuring the Hammerhead, like Feros, Noveria, Ilos and Virmire in the first game. Probably gonna have to wait for a full expansion. At any rate, it's good to have a vehicle again...

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The movement of the HH feels just as tricky as the Mako. Combat isn't very exciting. At least the Mako had some fun time against Thresher Maws. The role of the Mako was different. It transported you from the landing zone to some destination and more or less allowed you to explore the terrain. I hoped to find something similar with the HH. With the inclusion of just 5 missions and the time it has taken BW to create them I thought (or hoped) these would be high quality. I am sorry to say that they failed. No offense, but this is clearly not *it*.

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Mimaiselphenai wrote...

llinsane1ll wrote...

Mimaiselphenai wrote...

Remember when you used to buy video games for fifty dollars, and there was no such thing as DLC? And you had fun, anyway? Then along comes the perk of free extra content, and people find something to complain about. I don't get it.


I hope if you promise a girl to get engaged with her, she doesn't get a ring from the 25 cent machine...

What I mean is when BioWare makes you believe that the DLC they're bringing out for ME2 is going to be great and numerous DLC, that they live up to what they say...


It'd be funny if your analogy actually had any relevance. I accept free gifts as they are, so that makes me a cheap ass?

Anyway, you bought the game for the game, not in hopes of having super awesome DLC for it. Regardless of whether or not Bioware hyped the DLC (that's their job, guy), it's free. You lose nothing, they gain nothing. It's a gift from the company. They could have turned it into a glorified Pong, and it'd STILL be a gift. Just enjoy it for what it is and save your complaints for the DLC that Bioware actually charges for.


When you get engaged, it's always special, and you have to (usually) buy the lady a nice ring.
When BioWare says they are coming out with great DLC, you would expect 'great DLC' which they have not proven.

Yes, I bought the game FOR the game, but I was also very excited about the numerous 'great DLC' they said would be coming out for ME2.

So because it's free, I don't have the right to voice my thoughts? Which people should so that BioWare can pick up on the feedback and used that to improve their content, which can be shown to any gamer what BioWare is made of.

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Orkboy wrote...

Why do people keep saying, "But it's free."

Yes it's free, but lets face it, it's only free because Bioware want use it in future paid for DLC, and they don't want to have to include the code for it in every DLC pack.

Basically, it's a patch.


Yes, but since it's free, I now know that I won't pay for any extra Hammerhead missions. Of course, what would suck is if they bunched in exclusive items (armour, weapons etc) in with the vehicle missions. Then, I would be annoyed.

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Sadly, this is nothing like the Mako....

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When i was on the final bit of the Hammerhead DLC, i was like Image IPB Doctor Who reference ( THE SPHERE!! DALEKS!!)

but then i was Image IPB (Transformers rippoff)

This DLC was a nice break from running and gunning, its free dlc what do you expect?

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Mimaiselphenai wrote...

llinsane1ll wrote...

Mimaiselphenai wrote...

Remember when you used to buy video games for fifty dollars, and there was no such thing as DLC? And you had fun, anyway? Then along comes the perk of free extra content, and people find something to complain about. I don't get it.


I hope if you promise a girl to get engaged with her, she doesn't get a ring from the 25 cent machine...

What I mean is when BioWare makes you believe that the DLC they're bringing out for ME2 is going to be great and numerous DLC, that they live up to what they say...


It'd be funny if your analogy actually had any relevance. I accept free gifts as they are, so that makes me a cheap ass?

Anyway, you bought the game for the game, not in hopes of having super awesome DLC for it. Regardless of whether or not Bioware hyped the DLC (that's their job, guy), it's free. You lose nothing, they gain nothing. It's a gift from the company. They could have turned it into a glorified Pong, and it'd STILL be a gift. Just enjoy it for what it is and save your complaints for the DLC that Bioware actually charges for.


The Cerberus Network (and by extension all it's "free" content) are included with the overall ME2 package. They're incentives to buy the game new. Meaning you paid for it when you purchased your retail copy (unless you purchased it used in which case you actually paid $15 for the Network). The DLC provided by the Cerberus Network is no more a "gift" than is the radio that came with your car or the windows that came with your house.

Furthermore, let's say I create a game that has a driving section. I'm unhappy with the quality of that driving section so I pull it from the game and release it a few months later as a download pack at no charge. Would you say it's now above criticism for it's obvious deficiencies simply because it didn't ship with the core product? Most rational people would see that as an obvious cop-out.

Seriously, the "it's free" defense is not only factually incorrect, it's retarded.

Modifié par JKoopman, 23 mars 2010 - 07:56 .


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Jaymo147 wrote...

Gladly, this is nothing like the Mako....


There you fixed that for you, now now, no need to thank me.

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llinsane1ll wrote...



When you get engaged, it's always special, and you have to (usually) buy the lady a nice ring.
When BioWare says they are coming out with great DLC, you would expect 'great DLC' which they have not proven.

Yes, I bought the game FOR the game, but I was also very excited about the numerous 'great DLC' they said would be coming out for ME2.

So because it's free, I don't have the right to voice my thoughts? Which people should so that BioWare can pick up on the feedback and used that to improve their content, which can be shown to any gamer what BioWare is made of.


'Cept in your "comparison," Bioware would be the one presenting the ring to me, not the other way around. FLAWED.

And you can voice your thoughts all you want, just like I can voice mine. The fact that there's probably three to five threads about this already with an overwhelming "boo" to something Bioware didn't have to give you in the first place is why I'm "voicing my thoughts." Not to mention it should be obvious that you shouldn't get your hopes too high about anything free. Chances are that most people here being disappointed is their own fault for expecting too much. I never expected anything more than a toy.

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Mimaiselphenai wrote...

llinsane1ll wrote...

Mimaiselphenai wrote...

Remember when you used to buy video games for fifty dollars, and there was no such thing as DLC? And you had fun, anyway? Then along comes the perk of free extra content, and people find something to complain about. I don't get it.


I hope if you promise a girl to get engaged with her, she doesn't get a ring from the 25 cent machine...

What I mean is when BioWare makes you believe that the DLC they're bringing out for ME2 is going to be great and numerous DLC, that they live up to what they say...


It'd be funny if your analogy actually had any relevance. I accept free gifts as they are, so that makes me a cheap ass?

Anyway, you bought the game for the game, not in hopes of having super awesome DLC for it. Regardless of whether or not Bioware hyped the DLC (that's their job, guy), it's free. You lose nothing, they gain nothing. It's a gift from the company. They could have turned it into a glorified Pong, and it'd STILL be a gift. Just enjoy it for what it is and save your complaints for the DLC that Bioware actually charges for.

I strongly agree with Mimai... it was nothing extraordinary but hell ...who here could hope for that... it was fun and that is all... I will not b*** around for something that is free... then if Kasumi DLC went out being crap I'll be among first on this forum to bash Bioware for it... but plz people stop being like little kids that were given candy with flavour they don't like at all... I haven't been robbed or something....you were given a choice to either download it or let it pass...and plz do not generalize like everything they did was crap

Modifié par Remus Artega, 23 mars 2010 - 08:07 .


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Just finished playing through all the levels and heres what I think:



Pros

- The controls were okay. They weren't very hard to grasp at all.

- Lots of free resources (makes the mining mini-game go a lot smoother [less time devoted])

- Free biotic upgrade

- Easy experience



Cons

- The missile cannon is terrible. The missiles seek out targets but rarely do they hit if you are firing while strafing. Also they don't seem to hit what you are aiming at and sometimes go for different targets.

- Lack of a mini-gun means small targets can easily avoid your terrible guided missiles, leaving you with no alternative. At least you can fire them without impunity since you get unlimited ammo and there is no cooldown (i.e. overheat).

- The HH was obviously not scaled for harder difficulties (I loaded up on insanity). The missiles are incredibly weak and I got my ass handed to me by the geth mission with all the colossi and geth ground units. Had to turn it all the way down to casual to survive.



I'm fairly indifferent about this DLC. It was of no cost to me and I can understand from the devs pov, if my assumption is correct, that this is simply the groundwork for future HH missions (at cost more than likely).

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JKoopman wrote...


The Cerberus Network (and by extension all it's "free" content) are included with the overall ME2 package. They're incentives to buy the game new. Meaning you paid for it when you purchased your retail copy (unless you purchased it used in which case you actually paid $15 for the Network). The DLC provided by the Cerberus Network is no more a "gift" than is the radio that came with your car or the windows that came with your house.

Furthermore, let's say I create a game that has a driving section. I'm unhappy with the quality of that driving section so I pull it from the game and release it a few months later as a download pack at no charge. Would you say it's now above criticism for it's obvious deficiencies simply because it didn't ship with the core product? Most rational people would see that as an obvious cop-out.

Seriously, the "it's free" defense is not only factually incorrect, it's retarded.


Right, because there would have been no motivation to buy the game if it weren't for the incentives. The majority of players bought the game for the core game, and majority of gamers buy games brand new regardless of what perks may or may not come with it. So again, any free content is a gift.

I never once said the HH DLC was above criticism, but there's already enough of that going around. Thread after thread is just compounding at this point and is sounding more like needless complaining than actual constructive criticism toward the content that was released.

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Ok screw this..



When you shoot, the screen shakes, this is fine at first but gets REALLY annoying when you shoot for 1 min straight on a geth (they are quite tough, doing insanity)



And then there is the no saving.. (cant quicksave, and doesnt autosave) after I died once at 4 of the 5 artifacts, I just had to alt f4 because my head coudnt take the shaking.



is this kinda stuff even being beta tested?

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Mimaiselphenai wrote...

llinsane1ll wrote...



When you get engaged, it's always special, and you have to (usually) buy the lady a nice ring.
When BioWare says they are coming out with great DLC, you would expect 'great DLC' which they have not proven.

Yes, I bought the game FOR the game, but I was also very excited about the numerous 'great DLC' they said would be coming out for ME2.

So because it's free, I don't have the right to voice my thoughts? Which people should so that BioWare can pick up on the feedback and used that to improve their content, which can be shown to any gamer what BioWare is made of.


'Cept in your "comparison," Bioware would be the one presenting the ring to me, not the other way around. FLAWED.

And you can voice your thoughts all you want, just like I can voice mine. The fact that there's probably three to five threads about this already with an overwhelming "boo" to something Bioware didn't have to give you in the first place is why I'm "voicing my thoughts." Not to mention it should be obvious that you shouldn't get your hopes too high about anything free. Chances are that most people here being disappointed is their own fault for expecting too much. I never expected anything more than a toy.


Actually I think I was kind of the 1st to make this type of thread, without being like OMG this **** sucks WTF BioWare WTF FU who think otherwise so die in a fire! type thread.

Ok that's fine, you can voice your opinion but don't come in here saying to everyone who is disappointed with the DLC is wrong. You should kind of take into consideration my last sentence in the other post. Feedback should be heard from all points of views. So stop trying to blur mine out.

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Mimaiselphenai wrote...

JKoopman wrote...


The Cerberus Network (and by extension all it's "free" content) are included with the overall ME2 package. They're incentives to buy the game new. Meaning you paid for it when you purchased your retail copy (unless you purchased it used in which case you actually paid $15 for the Network). The DLC provided by the Cerberus Network is no more a "gift" than is the radio that came with your car or the windows that came with your house.

Furthermore, let's say I create a game that has a driving section. I'm unhappy with the quality of that driving section so I pull it from the game and release it a few months later as a download pack at no charge. Would you say it's now above criticism for it's obvious deficiencies simply because it didn't ship with the core product? Most rational people would see that as an obvious cop-out.

Seriously, the "it's free" defense is not only factually incorrect, it's retarded.


Right, because there would have been no motivation to buy the game if it weren't for the incentives. The majority of players bought the game for the core game, and majority of gamers buy games brand new regardless of what perks may or may not come with it. So again, any free content is a gift.

I never once said the HH DLC was above criticism, but there's already enough of that going around. Thread after thread is just compounding at this point and is sounding more like needless complaining than actual constructive criticism toward the content that was released.



Well this thread is about feedback on the problematic features of the Hammerhead DLC, there will be numerous posts that have critism and some even complaining(oh the humanity). Read the title it is obviously something you should avoid as you are not adding to it constructively.
If you want a thread that meets your approval then please make one.

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So for the people who say but it's free... yes, you are correct. But what are these forums for? Feedback. What is Feedback used for? Improvement for your content.

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TJSolo wrote...

Well this thread is about feedback on the problematic features of the Hammerhead DLC, there will be numerous posts that have critism and some even complaining(oh the humanity). Read the title it is obviously something you should avoid as you are not adding to it constructively.
If you want a thread that meets your approval then please make one.


This. Thank you good sir

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llinsane1ll wrote...



Actually I think I was kind
of the 1st to make this type of thread, without being like OMG this ****
sucks WTF BioWare WTF FU who think otherwise so die in a fire! type
thread.

Ok that's fine, you can voice your opinion but don't come
in here saying to everyone who is disappointed with the DLC is wrong.
You should kind of take into consideration my last sentence in the other
post. Feedback should be heard from all points of views. So stop trying
to blur mine out.


Now you're putting words in my
mouth. I said people who are COMPLAINING are "wrong." Or, you know,
complainers. If people actually want to comment on the mechanical flaws
of the DLC for future improvement, why would I haev
a problem with that? My only grief is with the people whose posts amount to nothing more than "it sucked, I didn't like it." Which from what I've seen in most of these threads is the majority.

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TJSolo wrote...



Well this thread is about feedback on the problematic features of the Hammerhead DLC, there will be numerous posts that have critism and some even complaining(oh the humanity). Read the title it is obviously something you should avoid as you are not adding to it constructively.
If you want a thread that meets your approval then please make one.


Actually, in a way I am adding to it. If even one person who comes here changes their post from "this wasn't fun, boo" to actually pointing out legitimate flaws, I've done something constructive. Complaining isn't feedback, it's complaining.

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Mimaiselphenai wrote...

llinsane1ll wrote...



Actually I think I was kind
of the 1st to make this type of thread, without being like OMG this ****
sucks WTF BioWare WTF FU who think otherwise so die in a fire! type
thread.

Ok that's fine, you can voice your opinion but don't come
in here saying to everyone who is disappointed with the DLC is wrong.
You should kind of take into consideration my last sentence in the other
post. Feedback should be heard from all points of views. So stop trying
to blur mine out.


Now you're putting words in my
mouth. I said people who are COMPLAINING are "wrong." Or, you know,
complainers. If people actually want to comment on the mechanical flaws
of the DLC for future improvement, why would I haev
a problem with that? My only grief is with the people whose posts amount to nothing more than "it sucked, I didn't like it." Which from what I've seen in most of these threads is the majority.


So obviously this thread hasn't been about complaining saying this **** sucks, and that's it. We're saying it sucks, and why. So where are you going with this? Just leave it as that, with the responses to me atleast. It's going nowhere. But in all honestly, I do understand where you're coming from and I agree. Just this is constructive criticism.

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Mimaiselphenai wrote...

llinsane1ll wrote...



Actually I think I was kind
of the 1st to make this type of thread, without being like OMG this ****
sucks WTF BioWare WTF FU who think otherwise so die in a fire! type
thread.

Ok that's fine, you can voice your opinion but don't come
in here saying to everyone who is disappointed with the DLC is wrong.
You should kind of take into consideration my last sentence in the other
post. Feedback should be heard from all points of views. So stop trying
to blur mine out.


Now you're putting words in my
mouth. I said people who are COMPLAINING are "wrong." Or, you know,
complainers. If people actually want to comment on the mechanical flaws
of the DLC for future improvement, why would I haev
a problem with that? My only grief is with the people whose posts amount to nothing more than "it sucked, I didn't like it." Which from what I've seen in most of these threads is the majority.

Then stop ranting on people that don't make long explanitive posts, there are also plenty of "It's great" posts that have no explanation or reasoning.
Well what is your feedback on the Hammerhead DLC.

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I'm disappointed with the poll options. I really, really despise it when someone makes a poll with only two possible picks ("I don't care" doesn't matter, why it's in anyway, if you don't care, don't vote) - it feels almost like cheating on part of the poll's creator.

Personally, I'm "Mildly disappointed, but it's still not bad". I had high expectations, turns out it's a minigame rather than an exploration/vehicle control mechanic. Missions were short and not very varied in objectives due to gameplay limitations of the Hammerhead (although visually there certainly was variety). The vehicle is well animated and interesting as a design, but I don't like the user interface being integrated into it... simply looks strange. There was some semblance of story, which is nice, but very devoid of dialogue.

Again, somewhat disappointed, and it had its nice moments and it has potential (for future missions). How does that fit into a poll with only two polar-opposite options?! 

Modifié par Burdokva, 23 mars 2010 - 08:20 .