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Hammerhead, the final answer to exploration?


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KainrycKarr

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I want my Mako back.

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The Angry One wrote...

Exploration?
What exploration?

By the way the Mako didn't fail. It was flawed, but had potential, and was dropped by short-sighted developers who rather than listen to the negative feedback to improve it just cut it out entirely.



Nope, the Mako was probably the single worst effort at driving ever made in grim history of gaming. I'm not saying the Mako was bad, I'm saying it was unforgivably terrible and was better for Bioware dragging it out behind the shed and shooting it. If anything, putting it in ME1 was short sighted, ME1 already had mediocre game play, adding the worst driving since ASCII made it look poor.

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Is any one else having an issue with the "Research" in mission one of Firewalkers? I have hovered over, around and right click everything like the help pop up box says to do and I get nothing. Either I am not doing something right or I have missed something. Any clues? FYI I am running a PC with vista if that makes any difference


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LOL, the MAKO wasn't even close to being as bad as you people let on. It's kind of funny, because that means either you have absolutely no skill or you're horrendously impatient and prone to hyperbole.

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Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

LOL, the MAKO wasn't even close to being as bad as you people let on. It's kind of funny, because that means either you have absolutely no skill or you're horrendously impatient and prone to hyperbole.


Nope, Tank vs UFO on the VIC20 had better handling than the Mako. Put a thousand gamers in a room who have never played ME and I would bet you'd be hard pressed to find 100 who even found it passable.

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KainrycKarr wrote...

I want my Mako back.


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Wild Still wrote...

Nope, the Mako was probably the single worst effort at driving ever made in grim history of gaming. I'm not saying the Mako was bad, I'm saying it was unforgivably terrible and was better for Bioware dragging it out behind the shed and shooting it. If anything, putting it in ME1 was short sighted, ME1 already had mediocre game play, adding the worst driving since ASCII made it look poor.


you're either a moron or haven't played many games. There are a lot of games were the driving was A LOT worse than the Mako. Period. Especially since the Mako wasn't really bad.

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

LOL, the MAKO wasn't even close to being as bad as you people let on. It's kind of funny, because that means either you have absolutely no skill or you're horrendously impatient and prone to hyperbole.


This.

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Wild Still wrote...
Nope, Tank vs UFO on the VIC20 had better handling than the Mako. Put a thousand gamers in a room who have never played ME and I would bet you'd be hard pressed to find 100 who even found it passable.


Hyperbole it is, then.

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TheTrooper1138 wrote...

you're either a moron or haven't played many games. There are a lot of games were the driving was A LOT worse than the Mako. Period. Especially since the Mako wasn't really bad.


It always comes down to name calling when the kids get out of school.

Played dozens of driving games going back to a Commodore 64, thanks to very broken physics, the Mako was the worst. You may have never driven a vehicle before, but contrary to what ME1 may have made you believe, a car does not immediately rocket 30 feet into the air upon hitting a pebble, and that was on high G worlds. It was just terrible, absolutely terrible. The Hammer Head is by no means perfect but it is a massive upgrade, and I would love to see a similar vehicle in ME3 with planet landings like ME1.

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Wild Still wrote...

TheTrooper1138 wrote...

you're either a moron or haven't played many games. There are a lot of games were the driving was A LOT worse than the Mako. Period. Especially since the Mako wasn't really bad.

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Oh stop whining, if you can't control the Mako, you suck at it, I and a lot of other gamers had no problems with it and I liked the controls. At least it didn't feel like some arcade racer game! HH does and it breaks immersion (even more than all the other crap they implemented in ME2)!

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Scanning = fail. Hammerhead = fail that makes you lose your nerves. Mako = Ok.

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auuuwhh this haz becomes mako vs hammerhead threadz? Well that is utterly gay.



Could we not be creative and give constructive critism instead so that we all can reach consensus on improvments for the hammerhead/mako? :))



I know that there is not much of constructive things being said in this forum since those who wanna help quickly turn to trolling, but just this thread, lets be constructive and help bioware actually change things to the better, instead of making them fail with replacing the mako with scanning(that we can certainly agree on) :PP



I will start edit the original post with possible improvments for the hammerhead.

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TriathlonUSAA wrote...

Is any one else having an issue with the "Research" in mission one of Firewalkers? I have hovered over, around and right click everything like the help pop up box says to do and I get nothing. Either I am not doing something right or I have missed something. Any clues? FYI I am running a PC with vista if that makes any difference


Reset your keybinds to default. Yes, it doesn't matter if they are already default, you have to re-reset them to default.

Then it'll work.

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As much as I loved the Mako in ME 1(where many others hated it), the HH is an improvement no doubt. I'm having loads of fun with these missions, esp the one where you have to kill all the Geth. It gave me thrills when I turbo up the HH and shoot off of a ramp like structure while shooting missles in mid air as I crash into a giant Geth and wrestle with it. It's damn fun to me. I had some fun with the Mako though, but this HH thing is great, and feels better. Could use a bit of tuning though, hope it makes it into ME 3



What I find funny, is now that the HH is out, all the Mako loving is gonna start up. Just makes no sense...

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I love the Hammerhead. I see absolutely nothing wrong with it and hope Bioware doesn't change it. I also enjoyed the missions and they were NOT difficult. I play on insanity and finished them all without dying. Its not hard to dodge rockets in the Hammerhead. And don't get close enough for the troopers to shoot you. Also you CAN drive over enemies.

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Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

LOL, the MAKO wasn't even close to being as bad as you people let on. It's kind of funny, because that means either you have absolutely no skill or you're horrendously impatient and prone to hyperbole.


The same can be said about those hating on the Hammerhead which is a better vehicle in every way.

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KotOREffecT wrote...

As much as I loved the Mako in ME 1(where many others hated it), the HH is an improvement no doubt. I'm having loads of fun with these missions, esp the one where you have to kill all the Geth. It gave me thrills when I turbo up the HH and shoot off of a ramp like structure while shooting missles in mid air as I crash into a giant Geth and wrestle with it. It's damn fun to me. I had some fun with the Mako though, but this HH thing is great, and feels better. Could use a bit of tuning though, hope it makes it into ME 3

What I find funny, is now that the HH is out, all the Mako loving is gonna start up. Just makes no sense...


People on these boards love to b*tch and moan. Haters gonna hate.

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I think the only thing missing from the Hammerhead is the Wal-E like way in which I could rover around the landscape. I mean seriously, if they reskinned the Mako as a giant Wal-E for ME1, I'd pay 800MSP for it.

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Skilled Seeker wrote...

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

LOL, the MAKO wasn't even close to being as bad as you people let on. It's kind of funny, because that means either you have absolutely no skill or you're horrendously impatient and prone to hyperbole.


The same can be said about those hating on the Hammerhead which is a better vehicle in every way.


Less armaments, less armour, no shields, no HUD, no unique physics makes it better?
That's not even going into the vapidness of the levels and the combat.

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Skilled Seeker wrote...

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

LOL, the MAKO wasn't even close to being as bad as you people let on. It's kind of funny, because that means either you have absolutely no skill or you're horrendously impatient and prone to hyperbole.


The same can be said about those hating on the Hammerhead which is a better vehicle in every way.


Those hating on the Hammerhead's controls, maybe. As you can see I personally said it controlled fairly well.

I think most people hating on the Hammerhead simply feel that the missions are a worthless waste of time (short though that time may be).

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Hammerhead suffers from the same problem as the Mako. Vehicle's fine, the way it was used... Not so much.

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Armour and shields are not necessary since this thing isn't as slow and clumsy as the Mako and can easily dodge missles, bullets. Why do you need a HUD? The HH starts beeping after taking moderate damage and then catches fire after severe damage. Only an idiot needs an immersion breaking HUD. Unique physics? Don't kid me the Mako had horrible physics and would go flying vertically after bumping into a pebble. The HH is smooth yet still reacts to the environment but it is a hovertank and hence can avoid hitting things. And you can run over enemies in the HH.



The levels are fine. The Mako levels were open but there was sh/t all to do in them and the endless driving over vertical cliff tops is not fun. The HH handles combat great with its guided missles allowing it to fire on the move making combat fast paced while the Mako with its stop to shoot was slow and less exciting.



Go home.

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The Mako, slow and clumsy? Okay, whatever. You don't even know what you're talking about.

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lol thats your reply? Nice.

Compared to the HH yes the Mako is slow and clumsy.

Modifié par Skilled Seeker, 24 mars 2010 - 09:31 .


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Skilled Seeker wrote...

lol thats your reply? Nice.


That's my reply to a statement full of ignorance, yes. You lose, good day sir.

Compared to the HH yes the Mako is slow and clumsy.


The Hammerhead is actually less maneuverable and flexible.
Yes I suppose it's faster if you include the Wile E. Coyote rocket-in-the-arse booster.

Modifié par The Angry One, 24 mars 2010 - 09:33 .


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I wish I were trying out the Hammerhead instead of working late. Can you fire it on the move? I used to hate having to stop the Mako to shoot accurately. It felt like a Warsaw Pact tank in that regard.


*ahem* en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-72 :P