Modifié par sylvanaerie, 25 mars 2010 - 01:09 .
sylvanaerie wrote...
Esp Howe's (She shoots down my boy then the brazen hussy flirts with this old man?? WTF moment indeed for him)
Bryce has probably seen it all from his fierce girl (GAWD I love that NPC! I wish he was around longer) considering you can tell your brother right in front of both parents "I've got someone waiting for me in my bed"
Modifié par nranola, 25 mars 2010 - 01:27 .
nranola wrote...
The Couslands seem like they're a tightknit family, anyhow.
Oren: What's a wench? Is that what you pull to get the bucket out of the well?
Bryce: A wench is a woman that pours the ale in a tavern, Oren. Or a woman who drinks a lot of ale.
I love that line. xD
Come on, even if you're not attracted to guys you simply have to see the appeal of Teagan. He's a strong man, physically and emotionally. He's at a pretty good age for a man, grown out of boyish airheadedness and not old enough to be considered "too old". He's polite and has rather good manners, yet isn't above a bit of flirting. No wonder he has a huge following. I guess I would join the Teagan fandom as well, if I weren't so completely enraptured by Leliana already.Axekix wrote...
I had no idea Teagan was this popular. I thought Cailan and Vaughn would be the female favorites.
Modifié par HaloKT, 25 mars 2010 - 02:02 .
HaloKT wrote...
And as to Alistair objecting to the shameless FemWarden - Teagan flirting? Alistair isn't one to openly object I think. He's a follower, he likes being told what to do. He will suffer silently (and when you're alone with him, he'll go pretty passive aggressive on you I guess), but I don't think he has the guts to actually step up to Teagan and stop him. He's just too insecure. All cuteness aside, that's just not very attractive.
HaloKT wrote...
Come on, even if you're not attracted to guys you simply have to see the appeal of Teagan. He's a strong man, physically and emotionally. He's at a pretty good age for a man, grown out of boyish airheadedness and not old enough to be considered "too old". He's polite and has rather good manners, yet isn't above a bit of flirting. No wonder he has a huge following. I guess I would join the Teagan fandom as well, if I weren't so completely enraptured by Leliana already.Axekix wrote...
I had no idea Teagan was this popular. I thought Cailan and Vaughn would be the female favorites.
Cailan is just a pretty face really. You take a look at him, yeah, he's cute of sorts... but when he opens hs mouth, it's all gone. Maybe decent for a purely sexual fling, but not full-blown romance material IMO.
Riordan, huh... never really though about him to be honest.
And as to Alistair objecting to the shameless FemWarden - Teagan flirting? Alistair isn't one to openly object I think. He's a follower, he likes being told what to do. He will suffer silently (and when you're alone with him, he'll go pretty passive aggressive on you I guess), but I don't think he has the guts to actually step up to Teagan and stop him. He's just too insecure. All cuteness aside, that's just not very attractive.
Oh, and about the HNM - Iona thing? Although a lady-in-waiting isn't typically considered to be a servant, she's still an Elf. And that just doesn't meet social requirements if you're a noble. Although the whole Iona matter does raise one question - can you seduce Iona if you're a HNF as well? Just asking...
SurelyForth wrote...
HaloKT wrote...
And as to Alistair objecting to the shameless FemWarden - Teagan flirting? Alistair isn't one to openly object I think. He's a follower, he likes being told what to do. He will suffer silently (and when you're alone with him, he'll go pretty passive aggressive on you I guess), but I don't think he has the guts to actually step up to Teagan and stop him. He's just too insecure. All cuteness aside, that's just not very attractive.
I think it’s even simpler than that- he doesn’t interject because he sees it for what it is: harmless, courtly flirtation. If you openly propositioned Teagan he would interject (a la Isabela) but as it is, it’s neither deep enough nor meaningful enough for him to get het up about.
sylvanaerie wrote...
Killing that bastard was my favorite battle in Origins. Killing the AD was anticlimatic after that.
HaloKT wrote...
Axekix wrote...
Oh, and about the HNM - Iona thing? Although a lady-in-waiting isn't typically considered to be a servant, she's still an Elf. And that just doesn't meet social requirements if you're a noble. Although the whole Iona matter does raise one question - can you seduce Iona if you're a HNF as well? Just asking...
Well, at least Iona had one "good" night. 
Modifié par Zy-El, 25 mars 2010 - 02:12 .
Ah, I never thought of that. Might be because I cannot fully respect him. It's like Morrigan says, he is the elder Warden and yet he leaves all the decisions to the new recruit who doesn't even have a clue about the Wardens yet. And he's like that all throughout the game. Always leaving decisions and "important" things (like, you know, running a country) to others. On my first (and onlySurelyForth wrote...
HaloKT wrote...
And as to Alistair objecting to the shameless FemWarden - Teagan flirting? Alistair isn't one to openly object I think. He's a follower, he likes being told what to do. He will suffer silently (and when you're alone with him, he'll go pretty passive aggressive on you I guess), but I don't think he has the guts to actually step up to Teagan and stop him. He's just too insecure. All cuteness aside, that's just not very attractive.
I think it’s even simpler than that- he doesn’t interject because he sees it for what it is: harmless, courtly flirtation. If you openly propositioned Teagan he would interject (a la Isabela) but as it is, it’s neither deep enough nor meaningful enough for him to get het up about.
) playthrough Anora completely crossed me, telling the Landsmeet that I wanted to kill her, proving to be an absolute b*tch. Yet Alistair was squiggling like a worm to get out of being king himself. I eventually got them both married, just because I don't see Alistair fit enough to rule on his own, even if I really hate Anora.
Modifié par HaloKT, 25 mars 2010 - 02:19 .
HaloKT wrote...
Ah, I never thought of that. Might be because I cannot fully respect him. It's like Morrigan says, he is the elder Warden and yet he leaves all the decisions to the new recruit who doesn't even have a clue about the Wardens yet. And he's like that all throughout the game. Always leaving decisions and "important" things (like, you know, running a country) to others. On my first (and onlySurelyForth wrote...
HaloKT wrote...
And as to Alistair objecting to the shameless FemWarden - Teagan flirting? Alistair isn't one to openly object I think. He's a follower, he likes being told what to do. He will suffer silently (and when you're alone with him, he'll go pretty passive aggressive on you I guess), but I don't think he has the guts to actually step up to Teagan and stop him. He's just too insecure. All cuteness aside, that's just not very attractive.
I think it’s even simpler than that- he doesn’t interject because he sees it for what it is: harmless, courtly flirtation. If you openly propositioned Teagan he would interject (a la Isabela) but as it is, it’s neither deep enough nor meaningful enough for him to get het up about.
And thanks for the Iona answer sylvan. I might try that out. She's just a very minor character, but she's just sooo adorably shy. Or it's just that I have this thing for Elven maids? Can't get Shianni out of my head either
Edit:
Oh, and in case it wasn't apparent enough, I never flirted with Teagan. I just read it and projected my rather nasty prejudices of Alistair onto it. I'm not a nice person I guess
I switched to the Cousland Family Sword for the killing blow.DWSmiley wrote...
sylvanaerie wrote...
Killing that bastard was my favorite battle in Origins. Killing the AD was anticlimatic after that.
Oh, yeah. My only HN was an archer but I switched to daggers for that fight because settling the score with Howe had to be up close and personal. I wish Bioware had done a special animation for the killing blow.
HaloKT wrote...
Ah, I never thought of that. Might be because I cannot fully respect him. It's like Morrigan says, he is the elder Warden and yet he leaves all the decisions to the new recruit who doesn't even have a clue about the Wardens yet. And he's like that all throughout the game. Always leaving decisions and "important" things (like, you know, running a country) to others. On my first (and only
Yeah, I pretty much always harden Alistair in the playthroughs I had with him marrying Anora. I actually think a hardened Alistair might actually have a chance to be happy with Anora if given the chance.sylvanaerie wrote...
well in Alistair's defense I also see gaming perspective coming into play here. If he was the leader your PC wouldn't be making the hard choices you as the player needs to make. He would just say "do this and go there" and you would be compelled to do it. Not much opportunity to RP there.
Also if you harden him (Did you harden him on your playthrough? He's a lot more tolerable when you do) he's much more a step up to the plate and accept his responsibilities man (and makes a pretty good king). However if you don't he really is a rubbish king cause he doesn't want to be. He even surprises Anora when you marry them and she helps him with learning how to be a good king and he does. (Alistair married to Anora makes a one two punch to Ferelden politics that can't be beaten by any combo not even HNF marrying him and frankly I think its really the best solution though I usually have my HNF marry him I just don't wanna share him).
Urazz wrote...
Yeah, I pretty much always harden Alistair in the playthroughs I had with him marrying Anora. I actually think a hardened Alistair might actually have a chance to be happy with Anora if given the chance.
Urazz wrote...
Yeah, I pretty much always harden Alistair in the playthroughs I had with him marrying Anora. I actually think a hardened Alistair might actually have a chance to be happy with Anora if given the chance.sylvanaerie wrote...
well in Alistair's defense I also see gaming perspective coming into play here. If he was the leader your PC wouldn't be making the hard choices you as the player needs to make. He would just say "do this and go there" and you would be compelled to do it. Not much opportunity to RP there.
Also if you harden him (Did you harden him on your playthrough? He's a lot more tolerable when you do) he's much more a step up to the plate and accept his responsibilities man (and makes a pretty good king). However if you don't he really is a rubbish king cause he doesn't want to be. He even surprises Anora when you marry them and she helps him with learning how to be a good king and he does. (Alistair married to Anora makes a one two punch to Ferelden politics that can't be beaten by any combo not even HNF marrying him and frankly I think its really the best solution though I usually have my HNF marry him I just don't wanna share him).
We will have none of that "logic" nonsense here!sylvanaerie wrote...
well in Alistair's defense I also see gaming perspective coming into play here. If he was the leader your PC wouldn't be making the hard choices you as the player needs to make. He would just say "do this and go there" and you would be compelled to do it. Not much opportunity to RP there.
Also if you harden him (Did you harden him on your playthrough? He's a lot more tolerable when you do) he's much more a step up to the plate and accept his responsibilities man (and makes a pretty good king). However if you don't he really is a rubbish king cause he doesn't want to be. He even surprises Anora when you marry them and she helps him with learning how to be a good king and he does. (Alistair married to Anora makes a one two punch to Ferelden politics that can't be beaten by any combo not even HNF marrying him and frankly I think its really the best solution though I usually have my HNF marry him I just don't wanna share him).
Axekix wrote...
Well I remember the first time I saw Cailan I thought "wow, what a pretty man (no ******)." He's got a heroic streak and he's a king! What else is there?
I thought the gamer gurls would be all over him.
Queen-Of-Stuff wrote...
nranola wrote...
I was browsing through the conversation trees earlier today, and I came across a very interesting exchange between the Human Noble Female and Duncan. This is immediately after the first dialogue, if you choose to speak to Duncan before leaving the room. In parenthesis are voiceover notes provided in the toolset:
Duncan: I'm sorry, but I believe your father wishes to talk to me and the arl alone. (polite; arl = lord)
PC: May we speak later?
Duncan: Your father has left you in charge of the castle? Then I will see you at dinner tomorrow, if not sooner. (polite chit-chat)
PC: I would prefer sooner.
Duncan: Then let us meet in the morning. I will seek you out before Ser Gilmore's testing. Will that be sufficient? (polite chit-chat; ser = sir)
PC: What about tonight... in my room? (IF PC IS FEMALE)
Duncan: I-I appreciate your enthusiasm, but it would be inappropriate for me to be in your quarters unescorted. (flustered, but a little amused)
LOLOL YOU PROPOSITION DUNCAN. I am so very amused. 8'D So tempted to replay the Human Noble origin just to watch this scene play out.
In front of your father and Arl Howe, no less. Hilarious. I can imagine their jaws dropping. Unless this is something the HN does so often that no one takes any notice of it anymore, of course.
Can't agree with you there, because a hardened Alistair is less likely to be a doormat and that's the only kind of consort Anora wants and will tolerate. If Loghain lives, A. even says something to the effect that Anora thinks she is going to get her way and that's not going to happen.Urazz wrote...
I actually think a hardened Alistair might actually have a chance to be happy with Anora if given the chance.
HaloKT wrote...
We will have none of that "logic" nonsense here!sylvanaerie wrote...
well in Alistair's defense I also see gaming perspective coming into play here. If he was the leader your PC wouldn't be making the hard choices you as the player needs to make. He would just say "do this and go there" and you would be compelled to do it. Not much opportunity to RP there.
Also if you harden him (Did you harden him on your playthrough? He's a lot more tolerable when you do) he's much more a step up to the plate and accept his responsibilities man (and makes a pretty good king). However if you don't he really is a rubbish king cause he doesn't want to be. He even surprises Anora when you marry them and she helps him with learning how to be a good king and he does. (Alistair married to Anora makes a one two punch to Ferelden politics that can't be beaten by any combo not even HNF marrying him and frankly I think its really the best solution though I usually have my HNF marry him I just don't wanna share him).
I know, you're supposed to be The Hero, and a more aggressive Alistair might be killing that notion off right at the start. Still, makes it very difficult for me to respect him, when I see him as more of a child than a capable leader. But at the same time, I just cannot get myself to be overly rude to him. It's like kicking a puppy
God, I guess I'd make a horrible mother...
In that conttext, I did want my HNF to marry him as well. Just to see how that ending would play out. and what happened? Ended up in Leli's arms again
Addai67 wrote...
Can't agree with you there, because a hardened Alistair is less likely to be a doormat and that's the only kind of consort Anora wants and will tolerate. If Loghain lives, A. even says something to the effect that Anora thinks she is going to get her way and that's not going to happen.Urazz wrote...
I actually think a hardened Alistair might actually have a chance to be happy with Anora if given the chance.
Urazz wrote...
Yeah, I pretty much always harden Alistair in the playthroughs I had with him marrying Anora. I actually think a hardened Alistair might actually have a chance to be happy with Anora if given the chance.
goofygoff wrote...
If you talk to Anora about it before the Landsmeet and tell her that you don't plan on stepping aside (I just wanted to see what she'd say), she will tell you that even though it would a political marriage, something more may develop down the road. As was the case with her and Cailan.
Modifié par Nhadalie, 25 mars 2010 - 03:48 .
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