InvaderErl wrote...
kraidy1117 wrote...
InvaderErl wrote...
The fanbase would utterly annihilate itself.
No, they would first give a yell of praise, then do that.
Well, at least there'd be an entertaining show either way.
Onyx Jaguar wrote...
Why must you guys hate on Lucas. Willow was awesome
Madmartigan!
Really? You think so huh?BaladasDemnevanni wrote...
Bucky_McLachlan wrote...
I guess you people just totally shut your brains off when you were watching and forgot that Anakin became Darth Vader solely because he was a whiny b*tch.
You do know what STORY is right? You do understand that special effects, explosions and actions sequences are utterly shallow and meaningless without a good story, right?
I guess not.
We probably know it alot better than you do
Modifié par Bucky_McLachlan, 24 mars 2010 - 05:06 .
So that's why he kills Padme and tries to kill Obi-Wan? Because he can't stand losing loved ones?kraidy1117 wrote...
Um the reason why I love Order 66 is because of the tone. Also the reason why Anakin changed was because inside he was scared of losing love ones. It had nothing to do with being a baby. He can not stand it when he loses a love one.
Bucky_McLachlan wrote...
So that's why he kills Padme and tries to kill Obi-Wan? Because he can't stand losing loved ones?kraidy1117 wrote...
Um the reason why I love Order 66 is because of the tone. Also the reason why Anakin changed was because inside he was scared of losing love ones. It had nothing to do with being a baby. He can not stand it when he loses a love one.
Did you? He embraced the Dark Side to save Padme and then he ended up choking her out.kraidy1117 wrote...
Bucky_McLachlan wrote...
So that's why he kills Padme and tries to kill Obi-Wan? Because he can't stand losing loved ones?kraidy1117 wrote...
Um the reason why I love Order 66 is because of the tone. Also the reason why Anakin changed was because inside he was scared of losing love ones. It had nothing to do with being a baby. He can not stand it when he loses a love one.
Did you watch the movie? He had already embraced the dark side and Padme was not going to stay with him when she found out what he had done. Then pops out Obi which then Vadar thinks she brought him here and tries to kill her, which he does not in fact. You have to remember at this point, he is no longer Anakin, he is now Vadar.
Modifié par Bucky_McLachlan, 24 mars 2010 - 05:04 .
Bucky_McLachlan wrote...
Did you? He embraced the Dark Side to save Padme and then he ended up choking her out.kraidy1117 wrote...
Bucky_McLachlan wrote...
So that's why he kills Padme and tries to kill Obi-Wan? Because he can't stand losing loved ones?kraidy1117 wrote...
Um the reason why I love Order 66 is because of the tone. Also the reason why Anakin changed was because inside he was scared of losing love ones. It had nothing to do with being a baby. He can not stand it when he loses a love one.
Did you watch the movie? He had already embraced the dark side and Padme was not going to stay with him when she found out what he had done. Then pops out Obi which then Vadar thinks she brought him here and tries to kill her, which he does not in fact. You have to remember at this point, he is no longer Anakin, he is now Vadar.
Oh I forgot though, he didn't kill her she dies from a broken heart.
Ya that's high quality writing there fellas.
You have to remember that the prequels suck balls and your average 8 year old could probably write something better.
Ya, getting your legs and arms chopped off and crispy fried by lava is a great reason for ending up requiring an iron lung for the rest of your life sure I'll give you that.kraidy1117 wrote...
Emoition plays a big part here, now am I saying it was done good? Not at all, my cat could do better acting then those two but the fight between Obi and Vadar was well done and ended with a good explantation why Vadar is in a metal suit and why he hates Palpatine.
Modifié par Bucky_McLachlan, 24 mars 2010 - 05:15 .
Bucky_McLachlan wrote...
Ya, getting your legs and arms chopped off and crispy fried by lava is a great reason for ending up requiring an iron lung for the rest of your life sure I'll give you that.kraidy1117 wrote...
Emoition plays a big part here, now am I saying it was done good? Not at all, my cat could do better acting then those two but the fight between Obi and Vadar was well done and ended with a good explantation why Vadar is in a metal suit and why he hates Palpatine.
But it doesn't change the fact that there's simply no emotional resonance in the scene which it takes place. And sorry but I've got no love for highly coreographed fights that look more like watching a ballet than anything else.
And hates Palpatine? You're reaching with that one bro. The whole problem is that he has every reason there to want to kill this guy and he just goes along with him anyways.
All of this is a demonstration of bad character development and poor story plotting.
The Spamming Troll wrote...
anikins nothin but a panzyfaced ****. thats what i got out of the prequels. its not like the plots in the originals were very good too. the entire begining of return of the jedi is stupid. luke decides to save his buddies by getting captured by jabba and getting throwin into a arklack cave er whatever its called. instead of just luke skywalkering their asses with force powers. if your the tiger woods of force powers, you dont ask questions. but what do you expect out of a kid born from those panzyfaced genes from anikin. i guess the bugger the wussball the better the force you have.
The Expanded Universe is nothing more than glorified fan fiction. It has nothing to do with the films and isn't even canon. Oh ya also it's a bunch of books and not the films. We're talking about the FILMS here, okay?kraidy1117 wrote...
Bucky_McLachlan wrote...
Ya, getting your legs and arms chopped off and crispy fried by lava is a great reason for ending up requiring an iron lung for the rest of your life sure I'll give you that.kraidy1117 wrote...
Emoition plays a big part here, now am I saying it was done good? Not at all, my cat could do better acting then those two but the fight between Obi and Vadar was well done and ended with a good explantation why Vadar is in a metal suit and why he hates Palpatine.
But it doesn't change the fact that there's simply no emotional resonance in the scene which it takes place. And sorry but I've got no love for highly coreographed fights that look more like watching a ballet than anything else.
And hates Palpatine? You're reaching with that one bro. The whole problem is that he has every reason there to want to kill this guy and he just goes along with him anyways.
All of this is a demonstration of bad character development and poor story plotting.
Not realy, the expanded universe (which better then the first 3episodes) goes into detail that Vadar is looking for a ways to kill him, also you have to look how the Sith rule.
Modifié par Bucky_McLachlan, 24 mars 2010 - 05:33 .
Bucky_McLachlan wrote...
The Expanded Universe is nothing more than glorified fan fiction. It has nothing to do with the films and isn't even canon. Oh ya also it's a bunch of books and not the films. We're talking about the FILMS here, okay?kraidy1117 wrote...
Bucky_McLachlan wrote...
Ya, getting your legs and arms chopped off and crispy fried by lava is a great reason for ending up requiring an iron lung for the rest of your life sure I'll give you that.kraidy1117 wrote...
Emoition plays a big part here, now am I saying it was done good? Not at all, my cat could do better acting then those two but the fight between Obi and Vadar was well done and ended with a good explantation why Vadar is in a metal suit and why he hates Palpatine.
But it doesn't change the fact that there's simply no emotional resonance in the scene which it takes place. And sorry but I've got no love for highly coreographed fights that look more like watching a ballet than anything else.
And hates Palpatine? You're reaching with that one bro. The whole problem is that he has every reason there to want to kill this guy and he just goes along with him anyways.
All of this is a demonstration of bad character development and poor story plotting.
Not realy, the expanded universe (which better then the first 3episodes) goes into detail that Vadar is looking for a ways to kill him, also you have to look how the Sith rule.
Anyways this is a bad argument to make in general because if some other material has to fill in the gaps for you this is just more evidence that your film is bad.
Try again kid.
Modifié par kraidy1117, 24 mars 2010 - 05:37 .
Modifié par Jamelo, 24 mars 2010 - 05:47 .
Jamelo wrote...
I like ME1 and ME2, but for some reason I can sit down and play ME1 for much longer stints at a time without getting bored. I've played through ME1 probably between 8 and 10 times, while only playing ME2 1 and a half or so times. I just really hated the story in ME2, and I also miss being a spectre going around and tracking saren. ME2 just feels a lot less grand IMO, and it's replay value is no where near ME1 for me.
I hated the council in mass effect 1 one of the only replay values in my opinion is letting them die. I also love sovereign but actual gameplay I love mass effect 2 much much better.Pacifien wrote...
I also find the replay value limited in ME2. Every time I play ME1, as soon as I become a Spectre and get my ship, I feel the progression of the story is entirely in my control.
In ME2, while I can get five crewmates in any order I see fit, I'm always going to end up at Horizon after the fifth one. And I always get two more crewmates after that before I'm forced to go to the Collector ship. And I can never get Thane, Samara or Tali earlier (not without cheating). And while arguably I'm not forced to head for the Omega-4 Mass Relay soon after the IFF is installed, guilt compels me.
That last one might be stretching my argument a bit.
But anyway, so much of ME2's story feels shackled. I wish I could describe it better, because it's not like ME1 had this massive expanse of different playthrough experiences compared to its sequel. It just felt like it did.
Having said that, ME2 is better at creating an environment and mood. ME1 is a very empty galaxy in comparison.
Bucky_McLachlan wrote...
You pretty much already freely admit that everything about the Prequels sucks balls and you ask me to list out details as to why everything after Order 66 is horrible? Is this a joke?
1. It's horrible because the films give us no reason to care about the Jedi whatsoever. They're boring, flat pieces of cardboard and they're arrogant ****holes on top of it. It's horrible because every time Hayden Christensen and Natalie Portman are on screen together we wish we were watching something else. It's horrible because the prequels never actually take the time to develop the friendship between Obi-Wan and Anakin, and they never give us a reason to feel any real empathy for Anakin and worse, they never give us an opportunity to ever see him as a hero, he's always a whiny little emo b*tch whose only friend in the world is the most evil man in the universe.
2. What this means is that there is no tragedy whatsoever when he finally succumbs to the Dark Side. There's no shock to it at all, and it's not because we knew he was going to do it from the beginning it's because
the fight between Obi-Wan Kenobi and Anakin has no emotional resonance whatsoever. This isn't a fight between two great heroes who we witnessed having such a great friendship that built up over the course of 3 films. This is a fight between a guy who decided to train this kid because his dying master (who like him was also had the personality of a piece of cardboard) asked him to and a really f*cked up kid with serious mommy/daddy issues.
3. No matter how well Ewan Mcgregor pulled off his "You were my brother! I loved you." line it simply cannot wash out the utterly horrible taste of the 6 hours we had to suffer through to get there, and it doesn't erase the fact that the films never even really depict Anakin and Obi-Wan as great friends in the first place (and 5 minutes of them flying around on ships and fighting with eachother in the beginning of the film doesn't make up for everything else). And then, oh man, oh god, oh man, oh god we end up with this.
4. If there's anything remotely good about the Star Wars prequels at all, it's good for only the most shallow and meaningless reasons imagineable.
Modifié par BaladasDemnevanni, 24 mars 2010 - 12:04 .
Kraidy1117 I must confess I find your attitude rather petulant and childish. You berate people for being trolls but then skulk around the board telling anyone that has a negative opinion of the game, or parts of it, to basically take back the game and stop posting on what you seem to assume is your forum.Then gues what, heres a solution. Bring back the game, leave these forums, go to the ME forums and talk about ME if you love it so much. The point that you said ME was better then ME2 means you think the gameplay was better and that shows you hate change.
Modifié par Payne by name, 24 mars 2010 - 02:04 .
Onyx Jaguar wrote...
Oh Jesus are we gonna start this **** again. For ****s sake enough!
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