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[Qwepir]

Ecael wrote...

They'll improve "RPG elements" in ME3 about as much as Liara, Ashley and Kaidan played "an important role in ME2".

1. BioWare was originally developing Mass Effect 1 for the PC, and all its gameplay/menu options were tailored for it.
2. Microsoft, their former publisher, paid them to gain exclusivity for the XBox 360 instead of the PC.
3. Mass Effect 1 is released for XBox 360 in 2007 exclusively at first, but plays like a PC RPG game.
4. Electronic Arts buys BioWare in 2008 and has Demiurge Studios develop Mass Effect for the PC (finally).
5. Mass Effect 2 is released for both XBox and PC, but plays like an XBox 360 shooter game.
6. All gaming companies, including EA, now believe in marketing for console games due to the prevalent piracy issues on PC.
7. Therefore, Mass Effect 3 will be focused on catering to the XBox 360.

There. I called it. Mass Effect 2 and 3 are designed solely for the XBox to be ported over to the PC. Unless you can refute any step in that list, then it's not just wishful thinking - it's what Mass Effect 3 is going to be.

Unfortunately, that made sense. Now I'm depressed :C

[Dinkamus_Littlelog]

Ecael wrote...

Amazing. You, by far, are the most worthless poster on this forum. Instead of coming up with a retort you make up more insults to 'defend your point'. At least other people put up some kind of counterpoint, but you sit back and believe you're right when you've added nothing to the discussion.

Continue insulting me, though. It'll just mean I'm the one who's actually correct, since you don't even care to correct me. Or you could try dismantling the argument I just made - I doubt you will even bother, though.

What point? What argument? All I had to respond to was the arrogant assumptions of a deluded roleplaying forum poster.

Its rich you accuse me of adding nothing to the discussion, when all you did was type "Here are my thoughts on how ME3 will go down, and if you dont like it, leave".

Those who live in glass houses or post on forums under a ridiculous fictional character persona shouldnt throw stones or make accusations of not deconstructing an argument.

In short: youre a whiny, deluded hypocrite.

Honestly guys, all of this because ME2 got criticised. You expecting Bioware to mail you flowers, despite all your constant hate and trolling of ME1? (oh the irony)

Modifié par Dinkamus_Littlelog, 24 mars 2010 - 12:48 .

[Never]

Jeez, everyone is cranky today.



I loved both games, but agree that ME1 just had that something that made it more fun. Here's to hoping ME3 is a perfect combination of both

[Dinkamus_Littlelog]

mynameisdanza wrote...

Jeez, everyone is cranky today.

I loved both games, but agree that ME1 just had that something that made it more fun. Here's to hoping ME3 is a perfect combination of both

I could live with that, though these bozos wouldnt have you believe it.

[InvaderErl]

Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...

Oh lookie, a fanboy circle jerk. Arent you guys just the most adorable little love in Ive seen the side of any group of butt kissers.

Thank you.

[Raphael diSanto]

*shrug*

I like 'em both. I tend to have more fun in ME2 due to the streamlined combat, lack of inventory and better roleplaying options, though.

Modifié par Raphael diSanto, 24 mars 2010 - 12:50 .

[Qwepir]

Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...
Its rich you accuse me of adding nothing to the discussion, when all you did was type "Here are my thoughts on how ME3 will go down, and if you dont like it, leave".

Which added a lot more to the discussion than you're adding with that post.

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InvaderErl wrote...

Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...

Oh lookie, a fanboy circle jerk. Arent you guys just the most adorable little love in Ive seen the side of any group of butt kissers.

Thank you.

Eh *shrug* we try.

[kraidy1117]

Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...


ME2 is a shooter-RPG, do I have to say it again. It's going to play like a shooter. No one is forcing you to play ME2 or 3 for that matter. Just go to the ME forum and talk about the awful inventory system and the subpar combat.

ME1 was a shooter-RPG.

ME2 is a shooter, with streamlined and dumbed down RPG residue tacked on as an afterthought.

You should read Christina Normans GDC presentation where they admit to making a shooter first, and adding rpg elements afterwards.

I relied much more on my powers as a sentinel in ME1. As an adept and sentinel in ME2, I relied on my weapons and taking cover, as if I was playing Gears of War.

You might not care, but dont whine to me because I do. I expected better, and I want to be able to focus less on cover based third person shooting in ME3. As long as I can do that, I dont care how much shooter gameplay is part of the "balance". Just so long as it isnt forced on me, and doesnt ruin other areas of the game.

Because heven forbid in a shooting game you have to tak cover and shoot your gun! Shooting is not forced onto you, it's part of the gameplay. ME2 was an RPG, it had

-create a custom character
-had new intresting characters to interect with
-they upgraded the dialog system with interupts
-the game is still focused on the story
-you level up and upgrade your partys powers
-you get exp
-you can upgrade your characters through out the game
-you can make choices that change how the game plays

Thats just like ME and almost any other Bioware game.

[Qwepir]

Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...

Oh lookie, a fanboy circle jerk. Arent you guys just the most adorable little love in Ive seen the side of any group of butt kissers.

>implying that because 2 people agree with someone on something, they are fanboys of said someone.

[Dinkamus_Littlelog]

Qwepir wrote...

Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...
Its rich you accuse me of adding nothing to the discussion, when all you did was type "Here are my thoughts on how ME3 will go down, and if you dont like it, leave".

Which added a lot more to the discussion than you're adding with that post.

And this one of yours. And ecaels.

If your going to take the high and mighty road, why not refrain from posting altogether, rather than stooping to the level you deign to criticise?

[DarthCaine]

ME2 IS THE WORST GAME EVAAAAAAR !

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Qwepir wrote...

Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...
Its rich you accuse me of adding nothing to the discussion, when all you did was type "Here are my thoughts on how ME3 will go down, and if you dont like it, leave".

Which added a lot more to the discussion than you're adding with that post.

Someone not too long ago in this thread was calling me out for hypocrisy, is it safe for me to use the word IRONY now?

[MassAffected]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...


ME2 is a shooter-RPG, do I have to say it again. It's going to play like a shooter. No one is forcing you to play ME2 or 3 for that matter. Just go to the ME forum and talk about the awful inventory system and the subpar combat.

ME1 was a shooter-RPG.

ME2 is a shooter, with streamlined and dumbed down RPG residue tacked on as an afterthought.

You should read Christina Normans GDC presentation where they admit to making a shooter first, and adding rpg elements afterwards.

I relied much more on my powers as a sentinel in ME1. As an adept and sentinel in ME2, I relied on my weapons and taking cover, as if I was playing Gears of War.

You might not care, but dont whine to me because I do. I expected better, and I want to be able to focus less on cover based third person shooting in ME3. As long as I can do that, I dont care how much shooter gameplay is part of the "balance". Just so long as it isnt forced on me, and doesnt ruin other areas of the game.

Because heven forbid in a shooting game you have to tak cover and shoot your gun! Shooting is not forced onto you, it's part of the gameplay. ME2 was an RPG, it had

-create a custom character
-had new intresting characters to interect with
-they upgraded the dialog system with interupts
-the game is still focused on the story
-you level up and upgrade your partys powers
-you get exp
-you can upgrade your characters through out the game
-you can make choices that change how the game plays

Thats just like ME and almost any other Bioware game.

NO!!! Stop with your logic!! Can't you see its not wanted here!?

[kraidy1117]

Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...

mynameisdanza wrote...

Jeez, everyone is cranky today.

I loved both games, but agree that ME1 just had that something that made it more fun. Here's to hoping ME3 is a perfect combination of both

I could live with that, though these bozos wouldnt have you believe it.

How am I bozo? Is it because I perfered ME2 then ME because the gameplay was alot better and the characters where more intresting? Or is it because us fans of ME2 can argue with facts for ME2 while you resort to insults and diss ME2? Thats what a troll does, and you sir are a troll.

[InvaderErl]

DarthCaine wrote...

ME2 IS THE WORST GAME EVAAAAAAR !

The dude abides.


I know you're being sarcastic but... I couldn't resist.

Modifié par InvaderErl, 24 mars 2010 - 12:53 .

[Qwepir]

MassAffected wrote...

Qwepir wrote...

Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...
Its rich you accuse me of adding nothing to the discussion, when all you did was type "Here are my thoughts on how ME3 will go down, and if you dont like it, leave".

Which added a lot more to the discussion than you're adding with that post.

Someone not too long ago in this thread was calling me out for hypocrisy, is it safe for me to use the word IRONY now?

Sure, go ahead.

[Collider]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...

mynameisdanza wrote...

Jeez, everyone is cranky today.

I loved both games, but agree that ME1 just had that something that made it more fun. Here's to hoping ME3 is a perfect combination of both

I could live with that, though these bozos wouldnt have you believe it.

How am I bozo? Is it because I perfered ME2 then ME because the gameplay was alot better and the characters where more intresting? Or is it because us fans of ME2 can argue with facts for ME2 while you resort to insults and diss ME2? Thats what a troll does, and you sir are a troll.

Better not to respond to him IMO.

[kraidy1117]

DarthCaine wrote...

ME2 IS THE WORST GAME EVAAAAAAR !

I KNOW  RIGHT! SO IS ALL THE CHARACTERS LIKE JACK AND LEGION!  EVERYONE WHO HATES LIARA  IS A NOOB!

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Qwepir wrote...

MassAffected wrote...

Qwepir wrote...

Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...
Its rich you accuse me of adding nothing to the discussion, when all you did was type "Here are my thoughts on how ME3 will go down, and if you dont like it, leave".

Which added a lot more to the discussion than you're adding with that post.

Someone not too long ago in this thread was calling me out for hypocrisy, is it safe for me to use the word IRONY now?

Sure, go ahead.

Oh cool

Ahem...IRONY!!!

[Dinkamus_Littlelog]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Because heven forbid in a shooting game you have to tak cover and shoot your gun! Shooting is not forced onto you, it's part of the gameplay. ME2 was an RPG, it had

-create a custom character
-had new intresting characters to interect with
-they upgraded the dialog system with interupts
-the game is still focused on the story
-you level up and upgrade your partys powers
-you get exp
-you can upgrade your characters through out the game
-you can make choices that change how the game plays

Thats just like ME and almost any other Bioware game.

I was able to crank up to insanity before the end of my first playthrough. Little did I know doing so would nullify biotics and make ducking behind cover for 90% of combat an absolutel necessity.

-I found the interaction with the new squadmates lacking for many of them. If not for a few gems, I would have been dissatisfied with the whole lot.
-The interrupts are good. The only criticism I have is a bias towards renegade.
-Party powers have been stripped down in an effort to make them "more unique". This just made them weaker and less fun to use for me.
-Exp has been relegated to a "mission complete" furthering the "shooter focus". The mission complete screen was also a total insult, and I hope its gone in ME3. It totally sucked.
-You can unlock a bonus power for characters, and they benefit from minor stat increases (woohoo, something ME1 gets criticised for, but ME2 gets off scot free for)
-No you cant. You can alter the tone and occasionally slightly alter the outcome of certain events. Thats all.

[Raphael diSanto]

Eh, he's probably complaining because he didn't have to sort through 4385438395837 inventory items, because, y'know, unless you have to do that, it's not a 'proper' RPG.

[Dinkamus_Littlelog]

DarthCaine wrote...

ME2 IS THE WORST GAME EVAAAAAAR !

ME2 IS THE BEST GAME EVAAAAR!

ANYONE WHO DISAGREES SHOULD BE DESCENDED UPON AND BRANDED 
A TROLL AND HATER BECAUSE WE CANT INVALIDATE THEIR VIEWS ON A GAME 
THEY PAID FOR!

[MassAffected]

Raphael diSanto wrote...

Eh, he's probably complaining because he didn't have to sort through 4385438395837 inventory items, because, y'know, unless you have to do that, it's not a 'proper' RPG.

That, sir, is A LOT of omni-gel.

[InvaderErl]

Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...

DarthCaine wrote...

ME2 IS THE WORST GAME EVAAAAAAR !

ME2 IS THE BEST GAME EVAAAAR!

ANYONE WHO DISAGREES SHOULD BE DESCENDED UPON AND BRANDED 
A TROLL AND HATER BECAUSE WE CANT INVALIDATE THEIR VIEWS ON A GAME 
THEY PAID FOR!