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[Dinkamus_Littlelog]

Raphael diSanto wrote...

Eh, he's probably complaining because he didn't have to sort through 4385438395837 inventory items, because, y'know, unless you have to do that, it's not a 'proper' RPG.

Nice strawman you got there. How much of a decent argument did you have to sacrifice to get it?

I thought ME1s inventory was broken and needed fixing. Not replaced by a shallow and boring upgrade system that ME2 offers.

[kraidy1117]

Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Because heven forbid in a shooting game you have to tak cover and shoot your gun! Shooting is not forced onto you, it's part of the gameplay. ME2 was an RPG, it had

-create a custom character
-had new intresting characters to interect with
-they upgraded the dialog system with interupts
-the game is still focused on the story
-you level up and upgrade your partys powers
-you get exp
-you can upgrade your characters through out the game
-you can make choices that change how the game plays

Thats just like ME and almost any other Bioware game.

I was able to crank up to insanity before the end of my first playthrough. Little did I know doing so would nullify biotics and make ducking behind cover for 90% of combat an absolutel necessity.

-I found the interaction with the new squadmates lacking for many of them. If not for a few gems, I would have been dissatisfied with the whole lot.
-The interrupts are good. The only criticism I have is a bias towards renegade.
-Party powers have been stripped down in an effort to make them "more unique". This just made them weaker and less fun to use for me.
-Exp has been relegated to a "mission complete" furthering the "shooter focus". The mission complete screen was also a total insult, and I hope its gone in ME3. It totally sucked.
-You can unlock a bonus power for characters, and they benefit from minor stat increases (woohoo, something ME1 gets criticised for, but ME2 gets off scot free for)
-No you cant. You can alter the tone and occasionally slightly alter the outcome of certain events. Thats all.

Thats just like ME! ME was one of BW worse games they ever made because the gameplay was teriable. Go play Baldurs Gate 1+2, KOTOR or hell even JE was better then ME gameplay. You are in the minority and you are a troll because you insult people who do not share your view.

[RyrineaNara]

I found Me 2 found lacking in dialogue. However, I liked both games very much.
The thing that  I noticed were that Exp has been relegated to mission complete states. However, I liked how ME1 handle stats.

I to did a lol what when they critcized ME1 STATS process.

Modifié par RyrineaNara, 24 mars 2010 - 01:02 .

[MassAffected]

InvaderErl wrote...

Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...

DarthCaine wrote...

ME2 IS THE WORST GAME EVAAAAAAR !

ME2 IS THE BEST GAME EVAAAAR!

ANYONE WHO DISAGREES SHOULD BE DESCENDED UPON AND BRANDED 
A TROLL AND HATER BECAUSE WE CANT INVALIDATE THEIR VIEWS ON A GAME 
THEY PAID FOR!

[Dinkamus_Littlelog]

kraidy1117 wrote...


Thats just like ME! ME was one of BW worse games they ever made because the gameplay was teriable. Go play Baldurs Gate 1+2, KOTOR or hell even JE was better then ME gameplay. You are in the minority and you are a troll because you insult people who do not share your view.

Are you parodying yourself? If so thats awesome.

I really hope you are, as Id hate to think you were actually being serious with this.

[Qwepir]

kraidy1117 wrote...
you are a troll because you insult people who do not share your view.

*slap*
No. Bad Kraidy. You do not know what a troll is.

[MassAffected]

OK, while we are on topic here...what is the countdown for on the main page?

[MassAffected]

DP

Modifié par MassAffected, 24 mars 2010 - 01:02 .

[Qwepir]

That's not on topic, bub.

[kraidy1117]

Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...


Thats just like ME! ME was one of BW worse games they ever made because the gameplay was teriable. Go play Baldurs Gate 1+2, KOTOR or hell even JE was better then ME gameplay. You are in the minority and you are a troll because you insult people who do not share your view.

Are you parodying yourself? If so thats awesome.

I really hope you are, as Id hate to think you were actually being serious with this.

I have yet to insult you. Calling you a troll is not an insult unless you act like one which you are. ME gameplay was very bad, ME2 fixed that and then people like you complain because you got to shoot your gun in a RPG shooter.

[MassAffected]

Qwepir wrote...

That's not on topic, bub.

Care to answer me anyway?

[InvaderErl]

Qwepir wrote...

That's not on topic, bub.

Wolverine?

kraidy1117 wrote...

Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...


Thats just like ME! ME was one of BW worse games they ever made because the gameplay was teriable. Go play Baldurs Gate 1+2, KOTOR or hell even JE was better then ME gameplay. You are in the minority and you are a troll because you insult people who do not share your view.

Are you parodying yourself? If so thats awesome.

I really hope you are, as Id hate to think you were actually being serious with this.

I have yet to insult you. Calling you a troll is not an insult unless you act like one which you are. ME gameplay was very bad, ME2 fixed that and then people like you complain because you got to shoot your gun in a RPG shooter.

What gets me is... ME1 was easier yet somehow the sequel was dumbed down.

Modifié par InvaderErl, 24 mars 2010 - 01:05 .

[Dinkamus_Littlelog]

kraidy1117 wrote...

I have yet to insult you. Calling you a troll is not an insult unless you act like one which you are. ME gameplay was very bad, ME2 fixed that and then people like you complain because you got to shoot your gun in a RPG shooter.

You see what youve just said there about ME1? Notice any similarities to what I said about ME2?

[DarthCaine]

MassAffected wrote...

Qwepir wrote...

That's not on topic, bub.

Care to answer me anyway?

Take your pick:

http://social.biowar...5/index/1867647
http://social.biowar...3/index/1867427
http://social.biowar...9/index/1867687
http://social.biowar...3/index/1869754

[BaladasDemnevanni]

Nvm. >.<

Modifié par BaladasDemnevanni, 24 mars 2010 - 01:07 .

[LPPrince]

Way to accept other people's opinions everybody, really.



This thread needed to be closed before it hit the second page.

[Qwepir]

MassAffected wrote...

Qwepir wrote...

That's not on topic, bub.

Care to answer me anyway?

It's a countdown until Deep Thought finishes calculating the answer.

[Dinkamus_Littlelog]

InvaderErl wrote...

What gets me is... ME1 was easier yet somehow the sequel was dumbed down.

What gets me is... ME2 was dumbed down yet somehow the preceding game was easier.

[MassAffected]

DarthCaine wrote...

MassAffected wrote...

Qwepir wrote...

That's not on topic, bub.

Care to answer me anyway?

Take your pick:

http://social.biowar...5/index/1867647
http://social.biowar...3/index/1867427
http://social.biowar...9/index/1867687
http://social.biowar...3/index/1869754

[MassAffected]

LPPrince wrote...

Way to accept other people's opinions everybody, really.

This thread needed to be closed before it hit the second page.

Actually any thread that has ME1 vs ME2 needs to be closed right away if people want folks to remain civil.

[InvaderErl]

Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...

InvaderErl wrote...

What gets me is... ME1 was easier yet somehow the sequel was dumbed down.

What gets me is... ME2 was dumbed down yet somehow the preceding game was easier.

Elaborate. I cannot respond to one sentence statements. I NEED MOAR.

[TJSolo]

1. BioWare was originally developing Mass Effect 1 for the
PC, and all its gameplay/menu options were tailored for it.
Odd fact never seen it before, it is so contrary to common knowledge that posting this might require a link as support.
2. Microsoft, their former publisher, paid them to gain exclusivity for the
XBox 360 instead of the PC.
Another odd one, see above.
3. Mass Effect 1 is released for XBox
360 in 2007 exclusively at first, but plays like a PC RPG game.
Another leap from your odd facts but more opinion than fact. If you had merely said it played more like a RPG than typical shooter without the PC qualifier it would have a more accurate and less biased statement.
4. Electronic Arts buys BioWare in 2008 and has Demiurge Studios develop
Mass Effect for the PC (finally).
Fact.
5. Mass Effect 2 is released for
both XBox and PC, but plays like an XBox 360 shooter game.
Without the qualifier the statement would come off less jaded and biased. Producing a statement that is fact and not a clouded mix of opinion/fact. ME2 does indeed play more like a typical TPS shooter and shooters are not an exclusive console notion as many shooter fanatics will proclaim the PC is the inherent platform for a shooter; mouse > controlpad
6. All gaming companies, including EA, now believe in marketing for console
games due to the prevalent piracy issues on PC.
One should recall to never use all and never. Please look at DAO, it is a PC game and designed as such. The console controls and menus suffer because of it.
7. Therefore, Mass Effect 3 will be focused on catering to the XBox 360.
You have made the divide between XBOX shooter / PC rpg with improper qualifiers. Because you included so many false qualifiers in your prior statements this statement looks logical but the conclusion is invalid.

A shooter mechanics are not exclusive to XBOX and RPG mechanics are not exclusive to PCs, I feel I have to restate this because your post is so misleading.
EA Bioware wanted ME2  to have more visceral shooting experience, their focus on that combined with some of the ME1 feedback caused the RPG features to be slimmed too much.
Admittedly the lead designer states her goal for ME3 will be richer and more complex RPG features, along with the fact the current shooting mechanics will more of less stay the same.

[DarthCaine]

Spuudle wrote...

4. Another Countdown Timer - Let's hope this isn't the case, but it has been done in the past. Please BioWare, let's leave that timer-upon-timer nonsense to Kojima.

lol, I remember that. It was annoying

[Dinkamus_Littlelog]

InvaderErl wrote...

Elaborate. I cannot respond to one sentence statements. I NEED MOAR.

Cant. Fraid weve reached an impasse.