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SirEmilCrane wrote...



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Now, anyone who thinks that the quarians can't win because they can fight, have sno strategy and such is a complete idiot. Let's look a Haestrom shall we? A small tem of Quarians goes on to Haestrom to collect data. They get spotted by a geth ship. Now, we don't know how many geth are inside a ship but there were probably hundred of mobile platforms. The small team of 10-20 quarians holds out against a massive Geth force for hours until reinforcements arrive and still complete their mission.



Bear in mind that the geth had colossi, air support and tons of troops




Well first of all that was only a single Geth patrol, and the Quarians were losing against them. Tali would have been killed had Shepard not shown up. That's not to say those Quarians were completley incompetent, even if it doesn't appear that way when you actually see them. But you have to remember that these were elite Quarian marines. According to Reeger, the average Quarian soldiers are much, much worse. Their survival odds are probably equivalent to that of an Imperial Guardsmen.




It was till a lot more geth than 10-20 men can be realistically expected to handle. IRL small strike teams without air support or reinforcements get killed. Special Forecs aren't like in the movies. They rely on secrecy and fast hard strikes. I sometimes wonder if people know anything about real warfare when they criticize the Migrant Fleet Marines. 10 men can't beat 100 with air and armour support, not in Mass Effect, not in real life, not ever.



Besides, we also know that human marines didn't fare much better against the geth on Eden prime, so do the Alliance marines suck as well. Why infact, the only species we've seen demonstrate any level of competence are the Salarians.






Hey, I said that the marines weren't completley incompetent. There were a lot of dead Geth on that mission. The reason they appear to be stupid though is because when the dropship shows up, they don't even attempt to avoid it. I don't get why they couldn't have retreated into the bunker directly behind them.



But aside from that, we only have two examples of the Quarian military; Freedom's Progress and the Alerai. Both of which were spectacular failures. And considering that Reeger himself says that their soldiers get slaughtered due to limited supplies, I'd say that their ground forces do suck.

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Internet Kraken wrote...

Hey, I said that the marines weren't completley incompetent. There were a lot of dead Geth on that mission. The reason they appear to be stupid though is because when the dropship shows up, they don't even attempt to avoid it. I don't get why they couldn't have retreated into the bunker directly behind them.

But aside from that, we only have two examples of the Quarian military; Freedom's Progress and the Alerai. Both of which were spectacular failures. And considering that Reeger himself says that their soldiers get slaughtered due to limited supplies, I'd say that their ground forces do suck.

Have you ever been shot at or had a gun pointed at you? Now imagine where your attention would be if so.

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Lemonwizard wrote...

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You can't simulate sapience without being sapient.


Sure you can. You program your robot to react as a real being would. It is thus simulated.

Read up on the Chinese Box.


I have.  I would regard the system that is the Chinese Room as being able to communicate in Chinese, even if none of its component parts can.




But really, by the same token, it's not like a hypothalamus or cerebellum by itself is capable of rational thought. Cut one piece out of the system of a human brain and its function is compromised. Living beings function very much like extremely complex machines when you get right down to it.


http://www.youtube.c...ser/pinkprogram Image IPB geth in training? Image IPB

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Azint wrote...

Internet Kraken wrote...

Hey, I said that the marines weren't completley incompetent. There were a lot of dead Geth on that mission. The reason they appear to be stupid though is because when the dropship shows up, they don't even attempt to avoid it. I don't get why they couldn't have retreated into the bunker directly behind them.

But aside from that, we only have two examples of the Quarian military; Freedom's Progress and the Alerai. Both of which were spectacular failures. And considering that Reeger himself says that their soldiers get slaughtered due to limited supplies, I'd say that their ground forces do suck.

Have you ever been shot at or had a gun pointed at you? Now imagine where your attention would be if so.


I'm not a trained soldier. I imagine they should be more aware of their surroundings. Besides, wouldn't they hear Reeger shout "incoming dropship!" over the radio anyways?

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The Quarians need a homeworld... we have dismissed these claims.