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[DreDk]

Mass Effect 1 is the TRUE Masterpiece.

Mass Effect 2 is a good game that due much of its glory exclusively to the first episode: beacuse, as a stand alone game, ME2 is only a very bland and monotone shooter with unuseful dialogues.
YOU HAVE TO KNOW that our love for the second one came mainly from the HERITAGE that ME1 has leave to us.

And please Bioware do not compare ME2 to Empire Strike Back,  it would be better if you compare it to The Phantom Menace.

ME1 is a work of love for Xbox360 (with some flaws).
ME2 is only a good
multiplatform game (I am more than sure that it will come out also for the PS3):
ME2
just performs ZERO OPTIMIZATION for the Xbox360: it just use the
last hiteration of Unreal Engine as it is.
Where is the anti
aliasing? Where is the motion Blur? Why ALL the
in-game texts are UNREADABLE?
Ok, the frame rate now is stable, and there are no clipping anymore... But I am quite sure that ME2 achive all of this only thanks to the last progress made by the Unreal Engine itself!!!
And how they solve the infamous elevator scenes problems: just
replaced it with loading screens...

My ideal Mass Effect 2 would have been the first one without texture clipping and frame rate issue (and maybe a better inventory system).

And what we have now instead? A bland shooter with:
No more RPG elements
No more intriguing
Story
No more intriguing quests
No more explorations
No more deep interaction with life-like characters
No more
vast area to play (like citadel)
No more "realistic" location (for example: citadel in ME1seems full of life..)

Furthermore, ME2 is such an inferior Cinematic Experience:
-) missions
screens,
-) loading screens,
-) areas that become unplayable soon after you have finished a mission (some time with sudden "jumps" back to Normandy or the magical "press B" to end mission ),
-) No more direct passage between ship and land/planets,
-) Many many super short and super linear level with nothing to do (except shoot...)
-) Space "cut scenes" that are rendered with a different style
-) The impossbility to talk to your fellows during the missions
-) Less inspired design
-) Inferior cinematic-visual appeal (no anti-aliasing & no motion blur & different grain filter).

And what has happend to the epic wonderful soundtrack?!?! Considering that it is created by the same people who created the first one, the only reason for such difference is that Bioware/EA leave a very short amount of time to the composers to create the music (or a shorter budget...)...

Also the characters and their dialogues seem to be less deep and efficient. And also their moods, motivations (etc..) are so weak...
Just consider the re-union scenes with Liara, Tali or Wrex. Very badly
written!
This time around all the character seems just lone puppets (not aware of what happend araund them) that are poor interpreters of a very limited and confined "dialogue tree". No progression in them, no evolution, no adaption to the plot (well actually, which is the plot?).

My only deep concern here is that usually the second episode of a trilogy is the most important one in terms of plot and storyline...
With ME2 the guys of the Bioware seems to have just finished their ideas!!!

But what the hell is happened to Bioware in the last 2/3 year?Have you spent all this time to convert ME2 to PS3?!?

Considering that ME2 came from  the same Company that has gives us so many MASTERPIECE, I just came to think that maybe all the problems here came directly from EA.
It is THE EA EFFETC?
Just considering what is happened with Dragon Age (A PC-game brutally ported in "some way" on the consoles) maybe this is the case...

But I do not understand why EA keep following bad business decision!!! The NEW-EA is still the OLD EA!!!
With ME2 everything seems to point out that EA just want to use the prestige and the heritage of ME Brand in order to make a mass marekt game. EA STILL follow short time sales!!!!
The problem is that If ME3 will be like ME2... well, Mass Effect brand will have a certain death!
Is it possible that no one can understand that?
It is sad to said that but, following this path, in the long period also Bioware will have a certain death!
And un fortunatelly this has already happened many time in the past under EA!

Please Bioware do not let EA rape and waste your IPs!
Please Bioware do not let EA rape and waste your IDENTITY!
Please Bioware do not let EA rape and waste your CORE BASE!

If is it true that Bioware listen to their fan, I really hope this time they will be able not only to listen but ALSO to UNDERSTAND what their fans are telling them!

Sorry for my English (I am Italian)
Sorry if I was too Hard with you.
I have deeply loved your game, I really hope that I will able love them also in the future.

Good luck!

FL


P.s.: This sentence from Mrs Christina Norman has really worried me:
“Fans complaining (About lack of RPG experience in ME2) is a small
percentage of the overall post (In the Bioware forums)” ...

[ImperialOperative]

DreDk wrote...

Mass Effect 1 is the TRUE Masterpiece.

No, it's not.  Thanks for trying.

[DarthCaine]

KOTOR was a masterpiece. ME1 is a VERY flawed masterpiece. ME2 fixed some flaws

KOTOR>ME2>DAO>ME1

Modifié par DarthCaine, 24 mars 2010 - 03:37 .

[Mehow_pwn]

ImperialOperative wrote...

DreDk wrote...

Mass Effect 1 is the TRUE Masterpiece.

No, it's not.  Thanks for trying.

Yes It is. For some of us....

Modifié par Mehow_pwn, 24 mars 2010 - 03:06 .

[Noobius_Maximo]

Thank you for being the millionth user to make the millionth topic on the same thing.

[doodlesam123]

DarthCaine wrote...

KOTOR>ME2>DAO>ME1

KOTOR>DAO>ME1>ME2

Kotor still wins.

Modifié par doodlesam123, 24 mars 2010 - 03:08 .

[Raniall]

Oh look. Another one. How cute. Seriously, no one cares. BioWare is not listening to those anymore. Shut. Up.

[KotOREffecT]

DarthCaine wrote...

KOTOR was a masterpiece.

Exactly.

[DreDk]

ImperialOperative wrote...

DreDk wrote...

Mass Effect 1 is the TRUE Masterpiece.

No, it's not.  Thanks for trying.

Hey people are you able to read just beyond the first line?

I
know that the text is poorely written (I am not english after all), but
at least I am not a blind person and I have still my PERSONAL OPINIONs about life and things.

So why I have just to
shut up?

[SimonTheFrog]

I'm always interested in keen observations about ME1 and ME2 and i'm not afraid of tl;dr's but it's abit boring if its just the same stuff that is all over the board already. In this case it would be better to use one of the existing threads. Scarecrow's for example.



Also, a lot of things you mention are a matter of taste or preference. You shouldn't use those points as arguments for your cause but more in the sense that you personally didn't like them. It's ok to not like stuff, obviously, but it's not ok to say (stupid made up example) "ME2 sucks because Shepards armor is ugly!"



Ok, sorry.. i'm patronizing again...

[ImperialOperative]

DreDk wrote...

Hey people are you able to read just beyond the first line?

I
know that the text is poorely written (I am not english after all), but
at least I am not a blind person and I have still my PERSONAL OPINIONs about life and things.

So why I have just to
shut up?

All you are doing with your OP is sansationalist fear mongering. "EA IS DEVIL AND IS RAPING BIOWARE"

Also, all of the gripes that you listed with ME2 can easily  be applied to Mass Effect 1 equally or more-so.

Modifié par ImperialOperative, 24 mars 2010 - 03:28 .

[Elvis_Mazur]

i stopped reading at "ME1 is the true masterpiece"

[Sleepicub09]

they all were materpiece's



/thread

[Ryzaki]

scyphozoa wrote...

jade empire 2 is coming out in 5 days

Didn't they cancel that? Not that I wouldn't love it if it was true but last I heard that had been canceled.

Stop getting my hopes up damn you!

[TheConfidenceMan]

BiowarEA isn't concerned with your RPG nerd rantings!

[Repellerar]

DreDk - Why do you hit enter in the middle of the paragraph?

[Spyndel]

There are some things I like better about ME1. There are somethings I wish they did differently in Me2.



Me1 though was never a masterpiece. It was pretty good.



There are some things I wish they had done differently in Me2, but overall it is a much better game.

[Jeremy Shepherd]

The OP has some pretty decent points, even if reiterated.



With ME1, as soon as I finished, I started again. I played ME over six times... Keep in mind, I wrote out the whole list of systems and planets so that I could do EVERYTHING. With ME2, even with the new DLC, I can't seem to force myself to play the game again... And I have tried 3 times, now. I DLed the Firewalker pack yesterday, and I haven't even bothered to check it out, yet.

[bjdbwea]

ImperialOperative wrote...

DreDk wrote...

Mass Effect 1 is the TRUE Masterpiece.

No, it's not.  Thanks for trying.

Actually, yes it is.

@ OP

Good post. I agree with you. But it's too late for your plea, unfortunately. EA owns BioWare, and there's nothing the developers could do. EA is not "evil", but they are only there to make money. That means that release dates are enforced, as well as changes to appeal to a broader audience. Both are probably the main reasons for your complaints. People like you, who expect more and better, are deemed acceptable losses in comparison to increased sales to casual gamers and shooter fans. It's unfortunate, and it remains to be seen if this calculation will hold true, but right now it is how it is.

[Gorn Kregore]

DreDk wrote...

Mass Effect 1 is the TRUE Masterpiece.

lol i stopped reading right after that

[Gorn Kregore]

bjdbwea wrote...

ImperialOperative wrote...

DreDk wrote...

Mass Effect 1 is the TRUE Masterpiece.

No, it's not.  Thanks for trying.

Actually, yes it is.

@ OP

Good post. I agree with you. But it's too late for your plea, unfortunately. EA owns BioWare, and there's nothing the developers could do. EA is not "evil", but they are only there to make money. That means that release dates are enforced, as well as changes to appeal to a broader audience. Both are probably the main reasons for your complaints. People like you, who expect more and better, are deemed acceptable losses in comparison to increased sales to casual gamers and shooter fans. It's unfortunate, and it remains to be seen if this calculation will hold true, but right now it is how it is.

you speak like mass effect 1 was an rpg, i'm sorry but april fools day comes in 8 days, better luck next time