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[Doctor_Jackstraw]

I think that by the time all the dlc for me2 is out that'll quell alot of the "me1>me2 depth" debating. (Getting more packs like overlord and liara will totally make it feel like a "bigger game" for fresh runs, and in my opinion appearance and weapons packs fill that gap too)

[Onyx Jaguar]

NECRONOMICON AWAKEN!

[TJSolo]

AlanC9 wrote...

Ecael wrote...
Try reading some actual critic reviews instead of relying on your biased collection of data and biased interpretation.

But remember, if a critic likes something you didn't, it's only because EA bribed him.

Also remember, if a critic likes something you didn't, it means you don't like something and the critic does.

[Ecael]

TJSolo wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

Ecael wrote...
Try reading some actual critic reviews instead of relying on your biased collection of data and biased interpretation.

But remember, if a critic likes something you didn't, it's only because EA bribed him.

Also remember, if a critic likes something you didn't, it means you don't like something and the critic does.

Critics are much more objective, though.

[AlanC9]

TJSolo wrote...


Also remember, if a critic likes something you didn't, it means you don't like something and the critic does.

Of course. But as we both know, the vast majority of critical reviews have been positive. That's the sort of thing people are trying to explain away with the bias charge, rather than saying that most critics are just plain wrong.

[TJSolo]

Ecael wrote...

TJSolo wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

Ecael wrote...
Try reading some actual critic reviews instead of relying on your biased collection of data and biased interpretation.

But remember, if a critic likes something you didn't, it's only because EA bribed him.

Also remember, if a critic likes something you didn't, it means you don't like something and the critic does.

Critics are much more objective, though.

How can you even prove any given critic is more objective then any given player.
Even if true the player's opinion still stands and is not effected by a critics opinion.

[TJSolo]

AlanC9 wrote...

TJSolo wrote...


Also remember, if a critic likes something you didn't, it means you don't like something and the critic does.

Of course. But as we both know, the vast majority of critical reviews have been positive. That's the sort of thing people are trying to explain away with the bias charge, rather than saying that most critics are just plain wrong.

There is no explaining away a high critical review. People talking about the game are talking about it from their perspective and their opinions. They are not letting some critical review rule how they view a game. It's the people like you that try to explain away a player's opinion by bringing up critical reviews.

[Ecael]

TJSolo wrote...

How can you even prove any given critic is more objective then any given player.
Even if true the player's opinion still stands and is not effected by a critics opinion.

It's their job to play as many games as possible and compare them with each other, while players will stick to one game or set of games.

They assume Mass Effect 2 is an RPG when they play it, and they judge accordingly compared to all the other games they've played. Most people here are trying to pick out differences between the two Mass Effect games instead, and that leads to a lot of dissatisfaction.

[Tazzmission]

Ecael wrote...

TJSolo wrote...

How can you even prove any given critic is more objective then any given player.
Even if true the player's opinion still stands and is not effected by a critics opinion.

It's their job to play as many games as possible and compare them with each other, while players will stick to one game or set of games.

They assume Mass Effect 2 is an RPG when they play it, and they judge accordingly compared to all the other games they've played. Most people here are trying to pick out differences between the two Mass Effect games instead, and that leads to a lot of dissatisfaction.

me2 is a rpg. do you or do you not decide what happens? the only diffrence wich pissed everyone off ( not me) complained mainly about the clip system. im sorry but i found the clip system great because infinite ammo was blah to me and didnt feel realistic. im not even a big shooter gamer but 95% of the people on the boards say stupid **** like ooooooh bioware sold out to shooter fans. since when has mass effect as a franchise always been just an rpg? last time i checked it was rpg/tps

[Ecael]

Tazzmission wrote...

me2 is a rpg. do you or do you not decide what happens? the only diffrence wich pissed everyone off ( not me) complained mainly about the clip system. im sorry but i found the clip system great because infinite ammo was blah to me and didnt feel realistic. im not even a big shooter gamer but 95% of the people on the boards say stupid **** like ooooooh bioware sold out to shooter fans. since when has mass effect as a franchise always been just an rpg? last time i checked it was rpg/tps

I... can't tell if your reply is supplementing my post or refuting it.

[Tazzmission]

Ecael wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

me2 is a rpg. do you or do you not decide what happens? the only diffrence wich pissed everyone off ( not me) complained mainly about the clip system. im sorry but i found the clip system great because infinite ammo was blah to me and didnt feel realistic. im not even a big shooter gamer but 95% of the people on the boards say stupid **** like ooooooh bioware sold out to shooter fans. since when has mass effect as a franchise always been just an rpg? last time i checked it was rpg/tps

I... can't tell if your reply is supplementing my post or refuting it.

im just saying that rpg elements wise me2 felt similar to me1 in that area alone. secondly most of the people on here moan about the clip system wich to me is a nice well done touch. people say me2 isnt a rpg at all but honestly when has mass effect only been just rpg? last time i checked was its a mix of rpg and tps

[cityhunter357]

I agree with the topic starter DreDK wit many of his argumentations.



"our love for the second one came mainly from the HERITAGE that ME1 has leave to us"



Now that I think, it's true.

[kraze07]

Tazzmission wrote...

Ecael wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

me2 is a rpg. do you or do you not decide what happens? the only diffrence wich pissed everyone off ( not me) complained mainly about the clip system. im sorry but i found the clip system great because infinite ammo was blah to me and didnt feel realistic. im not even a big shooter gamer but 95% of the people on the boards say stupid **** like ooooooh bioware sold out to shooter fans. since when has mass effect as a franchise always been just an rpg? last time i checked it was rpg/tps

I... can't tell if your reply is supplementing my post or refuting it.

im just saying that rpg elements wise me2 felt similar to me1 in that area alone. secondly most of the people on here moan about the clip system wich to me is a nice well done touch. people say me2 isnt a rpg at all but honestly when has mass effect only been just rpg? last time i checked was its a mix of rpg and tps

ME2 was far from ME1 rpg wise and most people are complaining about just that, not the clip system which you keep bringing up. Like you said Mass Effect is suposed to be an rpg/tps, but ME2 felt like a tps with rpg elements. There's a big difference.

[Kriztaen]

Guys, guys, guys, seriously. Lets all stop lying to ourselves. Not counting the POS "Champions of Norrath" Console Versions....



THE BALDUR'S GATE SAGA WAS THE TRUE MASTERPIECE (with some mods from the amazing modding community of course, Wes Weimer, you are a God. A Biotic God.)



Anyone who disagrees will be killed in their sleep tonight by either Sarevok or Jon Irenicus.



That is all.

[Whatever42]

I was going to yell at you for resurrecting an old thread but any reprieve from all the PS3 threads is welcome! I find it interesting that DreDK is still complaining about ME2 after 5 months, though. Now that takes a special kind of obsession.

[biomag]

@Original Post: The never ending story... it just sound more boring and stupid each time I read it. we had it thousand of times and there is in no way a majority of players thinking ME 1 is superior even if a few think they are a majority of their own... but its all a waste of time. All those hardcore ME 2 haters won't listen to any argument and even come up with paranoid PS 3-plans killed the true ME 2... buhuu...





This place is really a ......