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[Commissar Gash]

Which vehicle would win a 1vs1 fight (open terrain with few mountains)? The [/b]M35 Mako Infantry Fighting Vehicle or The M44 Hammerhead Infantry Fighting Vehicle?

I choose The Mako, The Mako has stronger shielding (it never got destroyed by Geth AR's), it has stronger weapons: a 155mm Mass Accelerator and a coaxial-mounted machine gun. I think that The Mako can dodge Hammerhead's missiles. The machine gun is more powerful then Geth AR's and Geth AR's can destroy the Hammerhead and the 155mm canon is stronger then Hammerheads missiles and it is an almost instant hit. I think that the Hammerhead can take 2-3 155mm rounds before exploding and the Mako would also keep spraying with the machine gun.

[TheTrooper1138]

The Hammerhead might dodge for a while, but the Mako only needs to land a few hits, while being able to take a lot more... so, yeah, the Mako would win, it is much more awesome anyways! 

[kraidy1117]

The Hammerhead because of it's handling. All the Hammerhead needs is a secondary gun and a health bar and we are set to go. I never died once because unlike the MAKO which was clunky and slow, the Hammerhead was fast and very easy to avoid bullets. I only came close to getting killed by a colosus once. Also the health recharging time is alot faster which is a plus sie for higher difficulties.


Speed beats brute strength anyday.

Modifié par kraidy1117, 24 mars 2010 - 04:32 .

[fivefingaslap18]

Can Bioware just tell EA that they shouldn't meddle into their affairs now? I know the official story is that people didn't like the Mako, but unofficially it is quite obvious the culprit as to why Mass Effect 2, storywise, is a completely giant pile of ****. EA wants it to be for the masses when Mass Effect never was meant to be for the masses.



Bioware has always been about an epic story. EA has always been about profit margins. EA has never been about making quality games, and rather popular games. Epic games are popular games. The problem is that no gamer has that mentality if it's longer then 10 hours. Sorry, but we need to make people's attention spans grow if you play Bioware RPG's.



Mako over Hammer**** anyday.

[Daeion]

I'd say the MAKO would win in a 1 on 1 fight since it can take more hits and dish out a bigger hit as well.

Modifié par Daeion, 24 mars 2010 - 04:35 .

[Sunnie]

Take the weapons from the Mako, put them on the Hammerhead, add a visible shield and health bar and the Hammerhead would be perfect! I really dont like the fire and forget cannon on the HH, theres no skill involved, just point it in the general direction and they always hit. /boring

[kraidy1117]

fivefingaslap18 wrote...

Can Bioware just tell EA that they shouldn't meddle into their affairs now? I know the official story is that people didn't like the Mako, but unofficially it is quite obvious the culprit as to why Mass Effect 2, storywise, is a completely giant pile of ****. EA wants it to be for the masses when Mass Effect never was meant to be for the masses.

Bioware has always been about an epic story. EA has always been about profit margins. EA has never been about making quality games, and rather popular games. Epic games are popular games. The problem is that no gamer has that mentality if it's longer then 10 hours. Sorry, but we need to make people's attention spans grow if you play Bioware RPG's.

Mako over Hammer**** anyday.

and ME had a good story? It was one of BW worse stories ever, not even close to BG1+2, KOTOR and Jade Empire. ME2 had a more personal story. The only good thing of ME story was Saren.

[TheTrooper1138]

kraidy1117 wrote...

The Hammerhead because of it's handling. All the Hammerhead needs is a secondary gun and a health bar and we are set to go. 

Instead it doesn't have it, so the Mako would win, period. If we are at "what if", then we could also say the Mako moves at lightspeed, outmaneuvers the HH and also has a system that makes it unattackable from heat-seeking missiles... :innocent:
And also the HH would need some decent controls, a better physics engine (yes, both were better on the ****ing Mako!) and a deccent set of shields plus a real hull, not that tin can hull that can't take any punishment...

fivefingaslap18 wrote...

Can Bioware just tell EA that they shouldn't meddle into their affairs now? I know the official story is that people didn't like the Mako, but unofficially it is quite obvious the culprit as to why Mass Effect 2, storywise, is a completely giant pile of ****. EA wants it to be for the masses when Mass Effect never was meant to be for the masses.

Bioware has always been about an epic story. EA has always been about profit margins. EA has never been about making quality games, and rather popular games. Epic games are popular games. The problem is that no gamer has that mentality if it's longer then 10 hours. Sorry, but we need to make people's attention spans grow if you play Bioware RPG's.

Mako over Hammer**** anyday.

This.

[Commissar Gash]

kraidy1117 wrote...

The Hammerhead because of it's handling. All the Hammerhead needs is a secondary gun and a health bar and we are set to go. I never died once because unlike the MAKO which was clunky and slow, the Hammerhead was fast and very easy to avoid bullets. I only came close to getting killed by a colosus once. Also the health recharging time is alot faster which is a plus sie for higher difficulties.


Speed beats brute strength anyday.

But The Hammerhead doesn't have a secondary gun.... We're not bulding a M45 Infantry Fighting vehicle, we're using the current models. Mako's canon can't be dodged if it's used by a skilled shooter, it's to fast the same goes for the machine gun, but the machine gun isn't accurate over long distances. But The Mako can dodge missiles, Hammerheads missiles doesn't appear to have a very good guiding system.

[TheTrooper1138]

kraidy1117 wrote...
and ME had a good story? It was one of BW worse stories ever, not even close to BG1+2, KOTOR and Jade Empire. ME2 had a more personal story. The only good thing of ME story was Saren.

It was a lot better than the one in ME2, that's for sure. Being resurrected with no explanation, the absolutely useless (storywise) Collectors, that btw make for really boring enemies, the linear levels, no immersion thanks to lading screens/mission reports (completely useless) etc...

Modifié par TheTrooper1138, 24 mars 2010 - 04:40 .

[fivefingaslap18]

kraidy1117 wrote...

fivefingaslap18 wrote...

Can Bioware just tell EA that they shouldn't meddle into their affairs now? I know the official story is that people didn't like the Mako, but unofficially it is quite obvious the culprit as to why Mass Effect 2, storywise, is a completely giant pile of ****. EA wants it to be for the masses when Mass Effect never was meant to be for the masses.

Bioware has always been about an epic story. EA has always been about profit margins. EA has never been about making quality games, and rather popular games. Epic games are popular games. The problem is that no gamer has that mentality if it's longer then 10 hours. Sorry, but we need to make people's attention spans grow if you play Bioware RPG's.

Mako over Hammer**** anyday.

and ME had a good story? It was one of BW worse stories ever, not even close to BG1+2, KOTOR and Jade Empire. ME2 had a more personal story. The only good thing of ME story was Saren.

So you would say that ME2 was better than BG1+2, KOTOR, and Jade Empire? Wow, way to go and say that ME1 is worse than ME2 when it came to story. Character development was there, certainly. It was certainly better than ME1's character development. The surprise was better than all the other games put together in ME1. It's hard to top's KOTOR's twist, but you can always expect a twist in Bioware games. I knew from before the game came out that the Collectors were Protheans. It just so happened I was wrong in the manner of action they took and how they became Collectors but I proposed they were not just Collectors, but Protheans long ago on this website before the game came out.

[kraidy1117]

gashgfjaskgfkagh wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

The Hammerhead because of it's handling. All the Hammerhead needs is a secondary gun and a health bar and we are set to go. I never died once because unlike the MAKO which was clunky and slow, the Hammerhead was fast and very easy to avoid bullets. I only came close to getting killed by a colosus once. Also the health recharging time is alot faster which is a plus sie for higher difficulties.


Speed beats brute strength anyday.

But The Hammerhead doesn't have a secondary gun.... We're not bulding a M45 Infantry Fighting vehicle, we're using the current models. Mako's canon can't be dodged if it's used by a skilled shooter, it's to fast the same goes for the machine gun, but the machine gun isn't accurate over long distances. But The Mako can dodge missiles, Hammerheads missiles doesn't appear to have a very good guiding system.

Does not matter, the MAKO is very slow, the Hammerhead is fast and has heat sinking rocket. All the Hammerhead needs to do is strife around it and do the huge jumps in the air and shower it with missles. Plus unlike the MAKO, the Hammerhead has a fast recharging rate. The MAKO would lose because the Hammerhead has speed.

[Sunnie]

fivefingaslap18 wrote...

Can Bioware just tell EA that they shouldn't meddle into their affairs now? I know the official story is that people didn't like the Mako, but unofficially it is quite obvious the culprit as to why Mass Effect 2, storywise, is a completely giant pile of ****. EA wants it to be for the masses when Mass Effect never was meant to be for the masses.

Bioware has always been about an epic story. EA has always been about profit margins. EA has never been about making quality games, and rather popular games. Epic games are popular games. The problem is that no gamer has that mentality if it's longer then 10 hours. Sorry, but we need to make people's attention spans grow if you play Bioware RPG's.

Mako over Hammer**** anyday.

Well, I can't speak for everyone, but... There are a lot of people who feel ripped off if there isnt at least 30+ hours of play in games these days. I feel very satisfied when a game takes 50 or more hours to complete, absolutely giddy if it reachs 100 hours (yep, there are a few really good games that have that much content).

[kraidy1117]

fivefingaslap18 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

fivefingaslap18 wrote...

Can Bioware just tell EA that they shouldn't meddle into their affairs now? I know the official story is that people didn't like the Mako, but unofficially it is quite obvious the culprit as to why Mass Effect 2, storywise, is a completely giant pile of ****. EA wants it to be for the masses when Mass Effect never was meant to be for the masses.

Bioware has always been about an epic story. EA has always been about profit margins. EA has never been about making quality games, and rather popular games. Epic games are popular games. The problem is that no gamer has that mentality if it's longer then 10 hours. Sorry, but we need to make people's attention spans grow if you play Bioware RPG's.

Mako over Hammer**** anyday.

and ME had a good story? It was one of BW worse stories ever, not even close to BG1+2, KOTOR and Jade Empire. ME2 had a more personal story. The only good thing of ME story was Saren.

So you would say that ME2 was better than BG1+2, KOTOR, and Jade Empire? Wow, way to go and say that ME1 is worse than ME2 when it came to story. Character development was there, certainly. It was certainly better than ME1's character development. The surprise was better than all the other games put together in ME1. It's hard to top's KOTOR's twist, but you can always expect a twist in Bioware games. I knew from before the game came out that the Collectors were Protheans. It just so happened I was wrong in the manner of action they took and how they became Collectors but I proposed they were not just Collectors, but Protheans long ago on this website before the game came out.

No I would not, I said ME2 story was better then ME. BG2 and KOTOR are two of the best stories in gaming. Don't put words in my mouth. Also the big twist in ME2 was how Reapers where made and what they realy are (and no I am not talking about the Human-Reaper, I am talking about the process to make them. The Human-Reaper is was lame, not as lame as frog Saren tho...)

[sunnyfunny]

plus, those booster jets on the mako..



i cant tell you how many times I dodged rockets and plasma shots from enemy troopers and colossus'.



Mako>Hammerhead

(I do like the whole shark motif theyre going for though. makes me wonder whats gonna come in ME3)

[Zulu_DFA]

Hammerhead can't move on thin/no atmosphere planets.

[kraidy1117]

sunnyfunny wrote...

plus, those booster jets on the mako..

i cant tell you how many times I dodged rockets and plasma shots from enemy troopers and colossus'.

Mako>Hammerhead
(I do like the whole shark motif theyre going for though. makes me wonder whats gonna come in ME3)

The HAmmerhead can jump over 200 feet high and shower the MAKO with missles. Brute strength is useless when the thing you are vs has speed.

[Sunnie]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Hammerhead can't move on thin/no atmosphere planets.

This

Hammerhead uses fans to boost and jump. If theres no atmosphere, HH won't be able to move much, just sit there and hover.

Would be nice if we had both vehicles, theres plenty of room in Normandy's vehicle bay for a lot more.

[Commissar Gash]

kraidy1117 wrote...

gashgfjaskgfkagh wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

The Hammerhead because of it's handling. All the Hammerhead needs is a secondary gun and a health bar and we are set to go. I never died once because unlike the MAKO which was clunky and slow, the Hammerhead was fast and very easy to avoid bullets. I only came close to getting killed by a colosus once. Also the health recharging time is alot faster which is a plus sie for higher difficulties.


Speed beats brute strength anyday.

But The Hammerhead doesn't have a secondary gun.... We're not bulding a M45 Infantry Fighting vehicle, we're using the current models. Mako's canon can't be dodged if it's used by a skilled shooter, it's to fast the same goes for the machine gun, but the machine gun isn't accurate over long distances. But The Mako can dodge missiles, Hammerheads missiles doesn't appear to have a very good guiding system.

Does not matter, the MAKO is very slow, the Hammerhead is fast and has heat sinking rocket. All the Hammerhead needs to do is strife around it and do the huge jumps in the air and shower it with missles. Plus unlike the MAKO, the Hammerhead has a fast recharging rate. The MAKO would lose because the Hammerhead has speed.

The Mako is very slow? Why do I get the feeling that you one of the Mako haters. The Mako has a better power/speed belance then the Hammerhead. The Mako can survive mutiple misslie hits. The Hammerhead can't survive multiple hits from a 155mm Mass Accelerator and a machine gun. And let the Hammerhead make huge jumps in the air, it makes more difficult to aim for it and The Mako would get a bigger target (instant hit 155mm canon:whistle:). 

I don't know why but I get the feeling when driving The Hammerhead that I'm driving a flynig Ghost with a rocket launcher...

[Raphael diSanto]

Yeah, I want 'em both. I like 'em both. The vs threads are silly.

[T-35]

I much prefer the Hammerhead over the Mako, I like the speed and nimbleness. It doesn't stand up to getting hit like the Mako but  the rate of fire of the guided missles cannot be beat. To top it off you can do pop up attacks

On top of that you don't have to drive up any  *#@$ 80 degree slopes

[Zulu_DFA]

Sunnie22 wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Hammerhead can't move on thin/no atmosphere planets.

This

Hammerhead uses fans to boost and jump. If theres no atmosphere, HH won't be able to move much, just sit there and hover.

Would be nice if we had both vehicles, theres plenty of room in Normandy's vehicle bay for a lot more.

Especially, when our old trusty Mako is intact on Normandy SR1 crash site.

[kraidy1117]

gashgfjaskgfkagh wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

gashgfjaskgfkagh wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

The Hammerhead because of it's handling. All the Hammerhead needs is a secondary gun and a health bar and we are set to go. I never died once because unlike the MAKO which was clunky and slow, the Hammerhead was fast and very easy to avoid bullets. I only came close to getting killed by a colosus once. Also the health recharging time is alot faster which is a plus sie for higher difficulties.


Speed beats brute strength anyday.

But The Hammerhead doesn't have a secondary gun.... We're not bulding a M45 Infantry Fighting vehicle, we're using the current models. Mako's canon can't be dodged if it's used by a skilled shooter, it's to fast the same goes for the machine gun, but the machine gun isn't accurate over long distances. But The Mako can dodge missiles, Hammerheads missiles doesn't appear to have a very good guiding system.

Does not matter, the MAKO is very slow, the Hammerhead is fast and has heat sinking rocket. All the Hammerhead needs to do is strife around it and do the huge jumps in the air and shower it with missles. Plus unlike the MAKO, the Hammerhead has a fast recharging rate. The MAKO would lose because the Hammerhead has speed.

The Mako is very slow? Why do I get the feeling that you one of the Mako haters. The Mako has a better power/speed belance then the Hammerhead. The Mako can survive mutiple misslie hits. The Hammerhead can't survive multiple hits from a 155mm Mass Accelerator and a machine gun. And let the Hammerhead make huge jumps in the air, it makes more difficult to aim for it and The Mako would get a bigger target (instant hit 155mm canon:whistle:). 

I don't know why but I get the feeling when driving The Hammerhead that I'm driving a flynig Ghost with a rocket launcher...

I take it your a MAKO lover. The Hammerhead is faster then the MAKO and can strife, something the MAKO lacks, also the Hammerhead has heatseeking rockets, jump in the air and shower the MAKO with rockets, and the Hammerhead is easy to dodge bullets. Also you have to take recharging times. MAKO's recharge time is very slow, Hammerhead has a fast recharge time. The Hammerhead can beat the MAKO.

[Raphael diSanto]

T-35 wrote...

I much prefer the Hammerhead over the Mako, I like the speed and nimbleness. It doesn't stand up to getting hit like the Mako but  the rate of fire of the guided missles cannot be beat. To top it off you can do pop up attacks

On top of that you don't have to drive up any  *#@$ 80 degree slopes

So if they make you attempt to fly up 80 degree slopes (or the equivalent in the HH) you'd hate that vehicle too?

Don't hate the vehicle, hate the terrain designers who drank too much jolt cola before being let loose on the terrain meshes.