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Well the PC version is port, your luckly you even got ME and ME2. The Hammerhead is good on the 360, it just needs better weapons.


yes, we're so lucky that we PC gamers are being screwed over more and more because EA and others want to please console gamers and give a **** about decent ports... Resident Evil 4 anyone? -_-


Hey at least the ME2 PC port is good, the DAO 360 port sucks compared to the PC version. The PC version got fixs for stuff, the 360 version has yet to get a patch that fixes anything like the dex bug and you got the tool set.

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Hey at least the ME2 PC port is good, the DAO 360 port sucks compared to the PC version. The PC version got fixs for stuff, the 360 version has yet to get a patch that fixes anything like the dex bug and you got the tool set.


who would want to play classic RPGs without a mouse anyways?
And no, the port was decent, but not good. It sucks that the spacebar has so many functions instead of giving us different keys for different functions, like in ME1. The controls have gotten me killed more times than I can remember in ME2. Taking "cover" instead of jumping over an obstacle while the enemies are shooting me in the back, taking cover instead of running, etc. Terrible... never happenen in ME1.

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kraidy1117 wrote...

TheTrooper1138 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...
Well the PC version is port, your luckly you even got ME and ME2. The Hammerhead is good on the 360, it just needs better weapons.


yes, we're so lucky that we PC gamers are being screwed over more and more because EA and others want to please console gamers and give a **** about decent ports... Resident Evil 4 anyone? -_-


Hey at least the ME2 PC port is good, the DAO 360 port sucks compared to the PC version. The PC version got fixs for stuff, the 360 version has yet to get a patch that fixes anything like the dex bug and you got the tool set.


IMO it's easier to port a game to the PC then the other way around because the mouse and keyboard give you a lot more freedom.  This is really shown in ME as the PC had a complete redesigned UI, better MAKO controls, and better inventory management, though it was still pretty bad.

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TheTrooper1138 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...
Hey at least the ME2 PC port is good, the DAO 360 port sucks compared to the PC version. The PC version got fixs for stuff, the 360 version has yet to get a patch that fixes anything like the dex bug and you got the tool set.


who would want to play classic RPGs without a mouse anyways?
And no, the port was decent, but not good. It sucks that the spacebar has so many functions instead of giving us different keys for different functions, like in ME1. The controls have gotten me killed more times than I can remember in ME2. Taking "cover" instead of jumping over an obstacle while the enemies are shooting me in the back, taking cover instead of running, etc. Terrible... never happenen in ME1.


People who have a crappy computer and have to suffer with a bad port with so many bugs?

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It'd be great if we had to fight a Spectre in a Mako or Hammerhead using our Mako or Hammerhead in ME3!

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It'd be great if we had to fight a Spectre in a Mako or Hammerhead using our Mako or Hammerhead in ME3!


Why should we have to fight a Spectre again? We already defeated Saren, it would be boring if they recycled the Spectre traitor idea...

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The Mako was actually a tank, the Hammerhead is made of spit and tinfoil and can be killed by a geth trooper in three hits. Sure old Mako is slow and controls like a intergalactic bouncy castle, but it can actually fight back.

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TheTrooper1138 wrote...

v1K0 wrote...

It'd be great if we had to fight a Spectre in a Mako or Hammerhead using our Mako or Hammerhead in ME3!


Why should we have to fight a Spectre again? We already defeated Saren, it would be boring if they recycled the Spectre traitor idea...


Nay, the council assume we're a traitor.

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Honestly HH is much easier in a fight thanks to its flexibility. The Mako has reach but it moves slower, turns slower, and attacks slower as targetting is done manually. HH can dodge all the attackers while keeping up a constant barrage of missles. So I'd say the HH is the easier vehicle to fight with by far and i've used both on Insanity difficulty.

Modifié par Skilled Seeker, 24 mars 2010 - 10:44 .


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HH has flexibility but Mako has reach

sorry. just had to


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One thing that should be updated about the HH in future DLC or ME 3 is it should be able to take more hits, it needs better sheilding like the Mako, but other than that its a damn blast to ride in thats for sure!

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They both have strengths and weakness in varying combat scenarios.



Mako gets the edge in fighting masses of infantry/vehicle support which the Hammerhead couldn't handle all at once, plus has no shields and is one of the most fragile vehicles ever driven. (aside from the obvious other functionality factors as in being able to jump out and continue a fight on foot and *cough*health indicator*cough*)



Hammerhead does well in more hostile environments and ledge traverses and obviously with actual missiles it has significant advantage in far ranged encounters and possibly in closed in urban es environment. (being able to shoot around corners etc)

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Mooner911 wrote...

HH has flexibility but Mako has reach
sorry. just had to


See the post above yours. Taken already Image IPB

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kraidy1117 wrote...

TheTrooper1138 wrote...

I disagree, I liked driving around with the Mako, only some of the steep mountains were problematic. Cut those out of the game and the Mako works perfectly.


I think it depends on what you play on. DFrom what I can tell alot of people who liked the MAKO played the PC version which I heard was ok, but the MAKO hate comes from the 360 which cpntroled like crap, but the Hammerhead on the 360 controls very nice butv I take it controls like crap on the PC.


i don't get this (the above).  sure the controls weren't perfect 100% of the time, but it was far from crap.  The MAKO took off quick and could turn on a dime.  I was driving it yesterday, and it can quite easily outmanuever any missle.  and the weapons and targeting systems were incredibly accurate.  test firing at extreme range on therum showed that the main and secondary guns hit whatever was in the center of the targeting reticle everytime without fail, with the small gun hitting one round dead center every second with the rest spreading out on full auto.  lets see the hammerhead hit a target at that range, it can't even zoom.  while the Hammerhead is fast and manuerable, its more like a light fast attack vehicle, while the MAKO is like a Striker crossed with a main battle tank.  and i want my mako back.

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Imagine piloting the Mako and trying to take out something that moves as fast as the Hammerhead. Sure, all it would take is one hit because the Hammerhead spontaneously combusts if you yell at it hard enough, but good luck landing that one hit while the HH pellets you with homing missiles. Not to mention all you'd have to do with the HH is shoot at the Mako from below. Remember how you could aim down, but not hit anything? Yeah.



But yeah, I know. Raah raah nostalgia. Sigh. I love how this thread was supposed to be about two fictional vehicles and suddenly was about EA for no apparent reason.

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Lambu1 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

TheTrooper1138 wrote...

I disagree, I liked driving around with the Mako, only some of the steep mountains were problematic. Cut those out of the game and the Mako works perfectly.


I think it depends on what you play on. DFrom what I can tell alot of people who liked the MAKO played the PC version which I heard was ok, but the MAKO hate comes from the 360 which cpntroled like crap, but the Hammerhead on the 360 controls very nice butv I take it controls like crap on the PC.


i don't get this (the above).  sure the controls weren't perfect 100% of the time, but it was far from crap.  The MAKO took off quick and could turn on a dime.  I was driving it yesterday, and it can quite easily outmanuever any missle.  and the weapons and targeting systems were incredibly accurate.  test firing at extreme range on therum showed that the main and secondary guns hit whatever was in the center of the targeting reticle everytime without fail, with the small gun hitting one round dead center every second with the rest spreading out on full auto.  lets see the hammerhead hit a target at that range, it can't even zoom.  while the Hammerhead is fast and manuerable, its more like a light fast attack vehicle, while the MAKO is like a Striker crossed with a main battle tank.  and i want my mako back.


yeah, me too.

v1K0 wrote...

TheTrooper1138 wrote...

v1K0 wrote...

It'd be great if we had to fight a Spectre in a Mako or Hammerhead using our Mako or Hammerhead in ME3!


Why should we have to fight a Spectre again? We already defeated Saren, it would be boring if they recycled the Spectre traitor idea...


Nay, the council assume we're a traitor.


no, they don't.

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Lambu1 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

TheTrooper1138 wrote...

I disagree, I liked driving around with the Mako, only some of the steep mountains were problematic. Cut those out of the game and the Mako works perfectly.


I think it depends on what you play on. DFrom what I can tell alot of people who liked the MAKO played the PC version which I heard was ok, but the MAKO hate comes from the 360 which cpntroled like crap, but the Hammerhead on the 360 controls very nice butv I take it controls like crap on the PC.


i don't get this (the above).  sure the controls weren't perfect 100% of the time, but it was far from crap.  The MAKO took off quick and could turn on a dime.  I was driving it yesterday, and it can quite easily outmanuever any missle.  and the weapons and targeting systems were incredibly accurate.  test firing at extreme range on therum showed that the main and secondary guns hit whatever was in the center of the targeting reticle everytime without fail, with the small gun hitting one round dead center every second with the rest spreading out on full auto.  lets see the hammerhead hit a target at that range, it can't even zoom.  while the Hammerhead is fast and manuerable, its more like a light fast attack vehicle, while the MAKO is like a Striker crossed with a main battle tank.  and i want my mako back.


As a person who plays more then RPGs (shooters, RTS and racing game) The MAKO was a choir to carry and the targeting was not good. I remember point my gun at an enamie, crossair was right on him and I shoot, the missle went over him! Thats not good, thats bad.

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Skilled Seeker wrote...

The Mako has reach


Has anyone checked that? It seemed to me like the HH missles have a much greater range than the Mako's gun.

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T-35 wrote...

Skilled Seeker wrote...

The Mako has reach


Has anyone checked that? It seemed to me like the HH missles have a much greater range than the Mako's gun.


Well the Mako can snipe using its rockets so yes it does have greater reach than the HH.

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kraidy1117 wrote...

Lambu1 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

TheTrooper1138 wrote...

I disagree, I liked driving around with the Mako, only some of the steep mountains were problematic. Cut those out of the game and the Mako works perfectly.


I think it depends on what you play on. DFrom what I can tell alot of people who liked the MAKO played the PC version which I heard was ok, but the MAKO hate comes from the 360 which cpntroled like crap, but the Hammerhead on the 360 controls very nice butv I take it controls like crap on the PC.


i don't get this (the above).  sure the controls weren't perfect 100% of the time, but it was far from crap.  The MAKO took off quick and could turn on a dime.  I was driving it yesterday, and it can quite easily outmanuever any missle.  and the weapons and targeting systems were incredibly accurate.  test firing at extreme range on therum showed that the main and secondary guns hit whatever was in the center of the targeting reticle everytime without fail, with the small gun hitting one round dead center every second with the rest spreading out on full auto.  lets see the hammerhead hit a target at that range, it can't even zoom.  while the Hammerhead is fast and manuerable, its more like a light fast attack vehicle, while the MAKO is like a Striker crossed with a main battle tank.  and i want my mako back.


As a person who plays more then RPGs (shooters, RTS and racing game) The MAKO was a choir to carry and the targeting was not good. I remember point my gun at an enamie, crossair was right on him and I shoot, the missle went over him! Thats not good, thats bad.


Because the enemy couldn't have possibly moved, that's the problem with non auto targeting projectiles, but then again you just need to get it to land in the general area.

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Daeion wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Lambu1 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

TheTrooper1138 wrote...

I disagree, I liked driving around with the Mako, only some of the steep mountains were problematic. Cut those out of the game and the Mako works perfectly.


I think it depends on what you play on. DFrom what I can tell alot of people who liked the MAKO played the PC version which I heard was ok, but the MAKO hate comes from the 360 which cpntroled like crap, but the Hammerhead on the 360 controls very nice butv I take it controls like crap on the PC.


i don't get this (the above).  sure the controls weren't perfect 100% of the time, but it was far from crap.  The MAKO took off quick and could turn on a dime.  I was driving it yesterday, and it can quite easily outmanuever any missle.  and the weapons and targeting systems were incredibly accurate.  test firing at extreme range on therum showed that the main and secondary guns hit whatever was in the center of the targeting reticle everytime without fail, with the small gun hitting one round dead center every second with the rest spreading out on full auto.  lets see the hammerhead hit a target at that range, it can't even zoom.  while the Hammerhead is fast and manuerable, its more like a light fast attack vehicle, while the MAKO is like a Striker crossed with a main battle tank.  and i want my mako back.


As a person who plays more then RPGs (shooters, RTS and racing game) The MAKO was a choir to carry and the targeting was not good. I remember point my gun at an enamie, crossair was right on him and I shoot, the missle went over him! Thats not good, thats bad.


Because the enemy couldn't have possibly moved, that's the problem with non auto targeting projectiles, but then again you just need to get it to land in the general area.


No this was at a armature who was not moving and it missed. Thats not good. You have to be right in front of the thing to hit it, any angle or anything and you are likely to miss, Hammerhead you can shoot anywhere and you can also jump in the air and shoot underneeth you.

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The Mako.



Simply because I like EXPLORING with it. Fighting with it? Not so much.

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kraidy1117 wrote...

Hammerhead you can shoot anywhere and you can also jump in the air and shoot underneeth you.


This is why I like that HH and I liked the Mako as well. But with the HH, its fast paced with smooth controlling, and you can jet into mid air and still power the boosters and ram into a giant Geth, just sick. You can have way more fun with the HH, to bad a recent spark in all of a sudden "Mako Nostaglia" blinds certain people of that.

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kraidy1117 wrote...

No this was at a armature who was not moving and it missed. Thats not good. You have to be right in front of the thing to hit it, any angle or anything and you are likely to miss, Hammerhead you can shoot anywhere and you can also jump in the air and shoot underneeth you.

I hate the boring fire and forget, hide behind a block and shoot forever, no skill, seeking missles on the HH. Like I said earlier, put the weapons from the Mako on the HH, give it visible shields and a health bar and that would make for a great experience!