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Shep to Femshep ratio?!

Débuté par BlackFlameGhost , mars 25 2010 03:22

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Ray Joel Oh
Posté 25 mars 2010 - 04:02

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SleepyBird wrote...

The fact that the ad campaign featured ONLY Guyshep and never Jennifer's Hale's excellent Femshep really annoyed a lot of us, so I think that's why there's so much Femshep fanart out there. 

BioWare ignores Femshep, so the fanbase creates it's own art to fill the void.


That's a little harsh.  Considering the fact that girl gamers are still a distinct minority, I'm just glad Bioware has consistently paid so much consideration to the female player's experience.

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Posté 25 mars 2010 - 04:03

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I always choose maleshep for 2 reasons:

1. I always feel weird piloting female characters, don't own one game that has a female protagonist.

2. Fepshep has no Tali


EDIT: I also get the feeling that I'm the only one that thinks malesheps voice is better then femsheps.

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Posté 25 mars 2010 - 04:04

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Femsheps rule the forums; Malesheps rule overall.

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Posté 25 mars 2010 - 04:05

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I used a femshep to do my most brutal playthrough so I wouldn't have to hate my main shep.

She killed grunt right out the pod, sold Legion,turned over the evidence on Tali's father, got everyone killed but Garrus, Jacob and Zaeed. Then killed Zaeed on his loyalty mission and dumped Garrus after the final for jacob. I don't like her.

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Posté 25 mars 2010 - 04:06

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SleepyBird wrote...
BioWare ignores Femshep, so the fanbase creates it's own art to fill the void.

If you mean by not marketing her, then yeah you don't see her hardly.
Otherwise I don't see where Bioware would be ignoring femshep.

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Posté 25 mars 2010 - 04:07

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Rodriguer2000 wrote...

found it



not all the renegade dialouge options are bad for female but alot are in my opinion


WHAT. THE. HELL?

My female Shepard is like 99% the same as that one, except she's Paragon haha.

So many options to create a character, yet I see my FemShep in that video haha.

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Posté 25 mars 2010 - 04:08

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Landline wrote...
EDIT: I also get the feeling that I'm the only one that thinks malesheps voice is better then femsheps.

I have noticed that this has a lot to do with the player's gender.  I think that one can
relate more to his/her gender's vocal inflections.  Of course there are exceptions.

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Posté 25 mars 2010 - 04:09

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Hardly ignoring her, but they pander marketing to the demographic. When you're IN gaming you learn to divorce marketing from content very very early, particularly with employers like EA.

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Ray Joel Oh
Posté 25 mars 2010 - 04:11

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Another comparison video. Hale wins, imho

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Posté 25 mars 2010 - 04:12

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JohnnyDollar wrote...

SleepyBird wrote...
BioWare ignores Femshep, so the fanbase creates it's own art to fill the void.

If you mean by not marketing her, then yeah you don't see her hardly.
Otherwise I don't see where Bioware would be ignoring femshep.


I was specifically talking about marketing, where neither the existance of a female Shepard or Jennefier Hale was ever mentioned by BioWare unless specifically prodded in interviews.  And while I understand they they didn't want to "confuse the audience" it still left a lot of players feeling ignored. 

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Posté 25 mars 2010 - 04:12

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Xaijin wrote...

Hardly ignoring her, but they pander marketing to the demographic. When you're IN gaming you learn to divorce marketing from content very very early, particularly with employers like EA.

I don't have the statistics, but I would say that it is a fair assumption that the game is purchased and played overwhelmingly by males.    

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Posté 25 mars 2010 - 04:12

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I find it much easier to have a connection to such a story-heavy game when I'm playing as the appropriate gender.

Mark Meer for me.

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Posté 25 mars 2010 - 04:13

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Ray Joel Oh wrote...


Another comparison video. Hale wins, imho


You and I are going to have to disagree on that.

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Posté 25 mars 2010 - 04:13

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You do realize EA simply sees customers as organic meatbag machines that give them money, right?

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Posté 25 mars 2010 - 04:13

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Ray Joel Oh wrote...


Another comparison video. Hale wins, imho


In Mass Effect 1, Hale wins.

In Mass Effect 2, both wins depending on their side I think. Renegade Mark Meer is pretty awesome. Paragon Jennifer Hale sounds more heroic/caring.

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Posté 25 mars 2010 - 04:14

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anyone seen this ?

#42
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Posté 25 mars 2010 - 04:15

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I've done both mshep and femshep. I think I prefer femshep for paragon, and mshep for renegade. mshep always sounds a little peeved, which works great for my renegade playthroughs. femshep, on the other hand, seems to be a bit more believable when being paragon, but just doesn't have a good evil voice imo.

EDIT: what FredThePhoenix said ;-)

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#43
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Posté 25 mars 2010 - 04:15

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Xaijin wrote...

You do realize EA simply sees customers as organic meatbag machines that give them money, right?

To be fair, most big companies share this view.

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Rodriguer2000
Posté 25 mars 2010 - 04:17

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i think katey sagel would do a good job as female sheperd

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Posté 25 mars 2010 - 04:19

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SleepyBird wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...

SleepyBird wrote...
BioWare ignores Femshep, so the fanbase creates it's own art to fill the void.

If you mean by not marketing her, then yeah you don't see her hardly.
Otherwise I don't see where Bioware would be ignoring femshep.

I was specifically talking about marketing, where neither the existance of a female Shepard or Jennefier Hale was ever mentioned by BioWare unless specifically prodded in interviews.  And while I understand they they didn't want to "confuse the audience" it still left a lot of players feeling ignored. 

I am not sure how to respond to that because I don't know all of the facts.  I do understand the marketing of it to males, because that is the majority who is playing/buying the game.  

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Posté 25 mars 2010 - 04:20

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As a woman I have spent much of my time playing as a male character--willingly and unwillingly given the state of things--yet I have had no problem relating to male characters. I'm a little puzzled as to why some people can't find it in themselves to play as a different gender. Role playing is just that.....role playing and how unfortunate it would be to not imagine being something else in game or at least find some way to relate.

That said, I find Mark Meer's voice acting to be aggravating and off putting. If the male Shepard had a better voice and face options that do not resemble a simian-like abomination, then I would jump at the chance of an alternate playthrough.

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Posté 25 mars 2010 - 04:20

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Xaijin wrote...

You do realize EA simply sees customers as organic meatbag machines that give them money, right?

Most business does.  That is the bottom line.  Some are more ruthless than others of course.

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Posté 25 mars 2010 - 04:22

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which is the most evil gaming company? i dont understand all that kinda stuff

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Posté 25 mars 2010 - 04:23

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BlackFlameGhost wrote...

 I wonder, I see a lot... A LOT of Femshep fanart, short stories and the like... its like Sheps are rare and Femsheps rule the world o.o

Another question... how many Femsheps are actually female on the stick?

I always took it as the fact that since the male Shepard is the cannon for the Mass Effect universe, that writing a female Shepard story gives a person more scope for interpretation.

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Posté 25 mars 2010 - 04:25

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voteDC wrote...

BlackFlameGhost wrote...

 I wonder, I see a lot... A LOT of Femshep fanart, short stories and the like... its like Sheps are rare and Femsheps rule the world o.o

Another question... how many Femsheps are actually female on the stick?

I always took it as the fact that since the male Shepard is the cannon for the Mass Effect universe, that writing a female Shepard story gives a person more scope for interpretation.



Ah yes, "Vaginas". We have dismissed this claim.

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