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[CmdrFenix83]

Zeratul20 wrote...

Shandepared wrote...

screwoffreg wrote...

As to a previous posters point, there is no such thing as clearly not gay. All men and women have sexual tendencies that may be stronger than others, but for all of us there are sets of circumstances where it would be conceivable for even the most "straight" of us to have sex with someone of the same gender.

This is what liberals actually believe.

Look, I won't hold it against you if you are bisexual. You know, your business and everything. Don't assume that you can speak for everyone else though.

... Why would that be something typical for "liberals" to believe?
Personally, I don't entirely agree with Screwoffreg either. I'm straight, and though I can completely understand that someone else CAN be attracted to the same gender, I'm just not. I just don't find a man sexually arousing. So I'm not sure if your theory's entirely correct. I think it's a bit more nuanced than that.

Wait, what were we talking about again?

Look at what he quoted.  That statement says that even though you're straight, apparently under different circumstances, you wouldn't be.  That's it's all a function of environment, and not something in your head at birth that tells you what gender(s) you're attracted to.

[Goat_Shepard]

enormousmoonboots wrote...

DiatribeEQ wrote...

enormousmoonboots wrote...

DiatribeEQ wrote...

I figure the primary reason why you'll never see either a Tali relationship with a FemShep (or any Quarian in a same-sex relationship for that matter) is their own canon: Quarians are too few in numbers to afford to do anything other than heterosexual activities and even that act can be dangerous for the species.

As of Ascension, quarians actually can no longer support their own population. Gay relationships would probably be a boon for them right now since it means fewer kids. And I'd bet that most children come about as a product of artificial insemination anyway, to minimize dangers. As long as you're female (and everything works), you can have kids, regardless of your sexual orientation.

Doesn't change the fact that it simply won't happen in game.  Try as people might, you will almost certainly never see any FemShep action with Tali.  You might get the option with other females in ME3, but not with Tali.  Besides, has her character ever even insinuated that her wagon wheel might roll both ways?  No?  Didn't think so.

That bit where she flirts aggressively with Femshep sure made me think she might be interested. Wanting to link suits? "I got better...I got you." "Tali, are you blushing?" That's all the same flirt dialog Manshep gets, all the stuff that starts a relationship.

I'm not saying it isn't possible, they easily could have done it, but because they give the same lines to both Male and Female Shepard, you're gunna get confusion from fans, whether or not they themselves thought it would happen. If they knew people were going to be confused, they probably would have fixed it, but it's most likely sloppy work by Bioware. At first I thought my MaleShepard wanted to get it on with Jacob, Thane, and Garrus. The way he bent over showing his ass to Garrus I seriously thought he was gunna be a Male option, but then I realized they just give the same animations to both genders.

It should be noted that Auntie Raan linked suits with Tali's mother, so "linking suits" doesn't mean sex. How do 2 chicks do it anyway, unless they scissor each other or something (sry, South Park reference, had to lighten the mood

And also should be noted that IF Tali is bisexual in ME3, then Thane has to, Garrus has to, and Ashleykaiden has to, and everyone else has to. Not everyone can be happy, as much as we'd like to think.

Modifié par Goat_Shepard, 25 mars 2010 - 08:06 .

[CmdrFenix83]

Goodwood wrote...
Talk about reading too much into things, Shandpatine... 

This issue has nothing to do with ideology. Sociologists and psychologists have done a fairly good job at determining the spectrum of sexuality; basically, ten percent of the population is solidly homosexual, while another ten percent is solidly heterosexual, with the remaining eighty percent scattered throughout the spectrum. IMHO, it's up to the individual person to find within themselves their own sexual identity, a process that goes hand in hand with the other struggles of adolescence.

Proof required.  Cite your source here, please, because I believe that's a load of utter horse****.

[InvaderErl]

I think we're heading to a bad place here people.

[Andrew_Waltfeld]

Darht Jayder wrote...

Darkstar87uk wrote...

Shepard and Tali can always adopt a baby..

worst side mission DLC idea ever.

O yeah, they so had to rescue the hostige child from the orphanage.....

to be honest, My general personality is to throw curveballs that many people don't expect to happen, I would have done the tali-femshep simply for that reason. I have to agree that coodinating off certain squadmates for certain genders is ok, but with 12 members at the very least ( more maybe added in ME3), A little overcross isn't exactly an bad idea.

[jlb524]

I say, who cares?



Liara >>>> Tali



/thread

[InvaderErl]

jlb524 wrote...

I say, who cares?

Liara >>>> Tali

/thread

Um....


Kay...

Thanks for sharing.

[CmdrFenix83]

enormousmoonboots wrote...

DiatribeEQ wrote...

I figure the primary reason why you'll never see either a Tali relationship with a FemShep (or any Quarian in a same-sex relationship for that matter) is their own canon: Quarians are too few in numbers to afford to do anything other than heterosexual activities and even that act can be dangerous for the species.

As of Ascension, quarians actually can no longer support their own population. Gay relationships would probably be a boon for them right now since it means fewer kids. And I'd bet that most children come about as a product of artificial insemination anyway, to minimize dangers. As long as you're female (and everything works), you can have kids, regardless of your sexual orientation.

What makes you think they're even a sexualized culture?  With or without a partner, all they ever really get is neural stimulation from part of their suits.  Why would they even bother with anything that resembles sex without attempting procreation?  They have to have clean rooms set aside for it afterall.  I highly doubt at any time in the history of the floatilla that any of these individuals came to these rooms to strip down and have gay sex. 

[Blackbaron15]

No keep Tali Hetero but I woundnt mind gay romances in mass effect 3 as long as they dont F up already existing ones.



I talk to all my cremembers but the last thing I need is a male crewmember hitting on me.

Id blow him out the airlock in an instant

[jlb524]

InvaderErl wrote...

Um....


Kay...

Thanks for sharing.

No problem...

[InvaderErl]

Jeez. Between jlb524 being insecure and people threatening to blow gay crew members out the window there's a lot of negativity in this thread.

[CmdrFenix83]

enormousmoonboots wrote...
That bit where she flirts aggressively with Femshep sure made me think she might be interested. Wanting to link suits? "I got better...I got you." "Tali, are you blushing?" That's all the same flirt dialog Manshep gets, all the stuff that starts a relationship.

How can you possibly be aware of all the potiential parts of her character? Did you ask her if she was interested in women? No? Didn't think so.

People are also forgetting two crucial things in this discussion: Tali is an alien. You have no idea what her sexual mores are. Saying that 'She doesn't act like she's gay/doesn't seem gay' is just stupid; it's not a character trait. Second, there's a huge difference between being totally bisexual and being attracted to one person of the same gender. Tali and Garrus have one important thing in common: they're both attracted to Shepard's force of personality (Garrus even admits that he doesn't have a thing for humans, it's only Shepard he wants, because Shepard is such a unique person), remember Tali's 'you were like a force of nature' bit? She never exults his broad shoulders or massive biceps, she's not really attracted to his body. She's attracted to him for who he is and what he means to her. That is why a Tali/Femshep romance is plausible.

Because Tali couldn't see FemShep like a big sister, right?  She *has* to be melting in her suit over her, right?  And yes, sexual preference is a character trait.  It's just as much a part of someone as the number of fingers they have or their hair color.

[CmdrFenix83]

jtav wrote...

Tali's ridiculously easy to write as bisexual. She's young, and, has already been stated a lot of her non-romance specific dialogue comes of as crush-like. Will Bioware do it? I doubt it. Could they? Easily. Most of the characters could easily be written as bisexual. Jack is already implied to be so, Garrus is already going outside his stated preferences There's speculation Thane was a cut option for males. Miranda and Jacob would be the hardest to justify, but not difficult. Obviously, all 6 would strain credibility, but any two of them...sure, why not?

She had a threesome with a guy and his girlfriend.  It is quite possible to such a thing without the girl/girl going on there, ya know.  The fact that Jack shuts down any possibilty of a relationship is indication enough that she's not interested.

[jlb524]

InvaderErl wrote...

Jeez. Between jlb524 being insecure

Insecure??? How so?

[InvaderErl]

*cough.

[jlb524]

InvaderErl wrote...

*cough.

Come on, out with it!

[InvaderErl]

Edit: HOLY CRAP. UM....

Here is a cute kitten.

Modifié par InvaderErl, 25 mars 2010 - 08:39 .

[jlb524]

JohnnyDollar wrote...
Jack and Miranda are in love!

They are and I will stand by that claim!!!

Miranda is totally thinking about Jack when she's sexing MaleShep up in the engineering room.  Why do think she picked it in the first place?  To be 'close' to Jack...in a sense.

[The Governator]

jlb524 wrote...

I say, who cares?

Liara >>>> Tali

/thread

Ah yes, 'liara >>>>Tali'.  We have dismissed this claim. 

[Goat_Shepard]

InvaderErl wrote...

Edit: HOLY CRAP. UM....

Here is a cute kitten.

as funny as lolcats are, best not to continue that.

Blackbaron15 wrote...

No keep Tali Hetero but I woundnt
mind gay romances in mass effect 3 as long as they dont F up already
existing ones.

I talk to all my cremembers but the last thing I
need is a male crewmember hitting on me.
Id blow him out the airlock
in an instant

I agree. I've already stated in the S/S
Thread that I support the S/S romance idea but keep Tali, Thane, Ashley,
and Kaiden straight the way they I've experienced them and the way they
were implemented in the game. Asari are the be-all answer to scissoring fun (no Samara is bs),
Kelly being the one "fling". Idealy, I'd want there to be a STRICTLY
Lesbian romance and strictly homosexual romance, but that's not gunna
happen. So brand new bi-characters + Liara for ME3, mark me down for
that. Preserve the dynamics of my favorite characters.

[Collider]

Honestly, I don't even know the reasoning for this whole discussion. There is NO reason to write Tali as being bisexual yet not have her romance open to females. There are already lesbian romances in the game, Tali would have been no different. How about this folks? Consider this: she's straight and not into chicks. Problem solved. You'll be sorely disappointed if you think that any romanceable character will magically be open to the same sex in ME3 when they haven't beforehand

[CmdrFenix83]

Collider wrote...

Honestly, I don't even know the reasoning for this whole discussion. There is NO reason to write Tali as being bisexual yet not have her romance open to females. There are already lesbian romances in the game, Tali would have been no different. How about this folks? Consider this: she's straight and not into chicks. Problem solved. You'll be sorely disappointed if you think that any romanceable character will magically be open to the same sex in ME3 when they haven't beforehand

Agreed.  If they wanted to include new romancable characters, any of them could be gay/straight/bi, but the character currently presented all are what they are.

[WarChicken78]

Not that I'd have a problem with lesbian scenes (which guy has?), but Tali and Femshep?

I dunno. I'd not complain if this will happen, but I'll most probably not choose her with my FemSheps.

Even Tali is my favorite LI for my males.