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[Sabriana]

Yeah, little princess Volly isn't very witty. He never has been, I'm afraid.

It must be a bitter feeling when failing as a troll. Report to RPG-Codex at once to report your epic fail, and take your punishment like the princess you are, dear, sweet Volly.

[Barbarossa]

ejoslin wrote...

He is a troll. THAT is fact. He is funnier when he doesn't have these insane 3-page-long posts for sure.

Me, I'll just keep playing characters that love the sexytime with the scumbag murderer, and help him to his redemption. AND I'll have the bonus of having an insanely deadly companion in battle, a witty party member who's not afraid to speak his mind, who gives good advice as well. PLUS have someone who's willing to stand up to the queen of Ferelden for my warden! Meanwhile, Volourn will have the pleasure of being princess stabbity stab stab stab in his games! Sounds like a win/win to me!

Edit: Sylvanaerie, this type of troll is a bit harder to deal with.  He doesn't care if people think he's stupid or laughs at him (unlike our last troll), he just copies and pastes 3 or 4 lines from his previous walls of text and laughs when he gets a reaction.

I'm just curious if you are talking about me or not.  It's been a long night so I won't reply to anything.  I Don't want to make myself sound like an idiot with an IQ of 80 after all. ... lol idiot I am... children don't drink absinthe...

Edit: ugh... I replied to the wrong post. Try again when I am sober I suppose. I am truly sorry for anyone who reads this.

Modifié par Barbarossa, 28 mars 2010 - 07:51 .

[Addai]

@Barbarossa, don't worry, the troll references are not to you.



Now go back to the Kyffhauser and sleep it off.

[HaloKT]

sylvanaerie wrote...

Ahhh I haven't done any nexus skimming.  I still have to figure out how to get those hairdos either.  Got some tinkering to do I think.

I wanted the hairstyles too, but it's all so overdone, so obviously "JRPG" hair. Although I am actually quite taken by the one in my Avatar, although it might be a bit too cutesy for a CEF Assassin/Duelist

Anyway, now we're all Zevran fangirls? How is that possible? I'm most certainly not! I'm much more of a Leliana fan myself, I just don't mind the Elf! But I cannot remember Zev saying anything about killing children. There was something about children in his dialogue and if I'm not completely bonkers, I think he said something that he doesn't kill them, just the adults who "need to be assassinated".

And yes, taken at face value, both Leli and Zev are scumbag murderers. Both have different approaches, but ultimately they're both assassins. And I'm still convinced that Leli simply sought refuge at the Chantry because that'd be the absolutely last place to look for her. But maybe she really had that vision? I don't know and probably never will. But she was a deceiving liar right up until she confesses that her coming to Ferelden had certain reasons that weren't particularly altruistic or religious.

Although I have to admit - and what fangirl would I be if I didn't - that Leliana is as much a result of her upbringing as Zev is. She was raised into the assassin/spy lifestyle. and I suspect that Orlais isn't a morally decent place either. The services of Bards do seem to be highly sought after in noble circles after all. And come on - how can a life of luxury, seduction and intrigue not be exciting? In the end, you can turn both her and Zev to be loyal and very decent persons. Killing them is such a waste, given their personal development.

[Mlai00]

Yeah, it sure is a waste, especially since I have Zev all decked out in Ancient Elven...



Which is why I'm going to Haven and Denerim last. :-\\

[ejoslin]

Barbarossa, I'm only mean to trolls, not to people I disagree with. I do understand the difference between the two!

[HaloKT]

Mlai00 wrote...

Yeah, it sure is a waste, especially since I have Zev all decked out in Ancient Elven...

Which is why I'm going to Haven and Denerim last. :-\\\\

Just out of curiosity... what is Zev's problem with haven? I never brought him along there, but I plan to on my HNF warrior. Is there anything to watch out for? 

[ejoslin]

Zev is great in Haven.  It's another place where he has a lot to say.  

Modifié par ejoslin, 28 mars 2010 - 02:30 .

[sylvanaerie]

ejoslin wrote...

Zev is great in Haven.  It's another place where he has a lot to say.  

Didnt he say something at the sacrificial altar in that one house?  OR I could be remembering Morrigan...I forget.  Alistair has a funny comment in there too.  IMO taking Sten to Haven is the best though.

Modifié par sylvanaerie, 28 mars 2010 - 02:36 .

[ejoslin]

sylvanaerie wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

Zev is great in Haven.  It's another place where he has a lot to say.  

Didnt he say something at the sacrificial altar in that one house?  OR I could be remembering Morrigan...I forget.  Alistair has a funny comment in there too.  IMO taking Sten to Haven is the best though.

He does, though his comment there is more interesting than funny.  Morrigan says something as well.  Alistair is cute there!

[Volourn]

L0L This entire thread has been repetive. Everyone whose posted more than one has repeated themselves.



Your repetiveness doesn't change the fact that Zev is a scumbag murderer and calling me a troll also doens't change the fact that Zev is a scumbag murderer.

[vigna]

Barbarossa wrote...

    I just wanted to say that I feel somewhat cheated by the fact that both of the rogues(Leliana and Zevran) in my storyline have to die.  I could not let Zevran live after trying to kill my character.  Now I am at the urn of sacred ashes and have explored all of my options trying to keep Leliana and doing the right thing of defiling the ashes of andraste and thus destroying part of the idiotic monotheistic religion that the people of Fereldan follow.  Alas, it looks as if I must finish the game without a rogue to unlock chests and disable traps if I want to feel like I have made the story my own.

    I feel shorted because of this fact:  I get two rogues to choose from, but both of them have serious flaws that make them unusable for me, but I get 4 warriors to choose from.  I understand that warrriors have a slightly more varied use as they can be ranged, dps, or tanks.  Seriously though Zevran and Leliana?  I am on my first playthrough, so I don't really know that Zevran would be an uninteresting companion, but he tried to kill my character!  Alright, done ranting. 

P.S.  Great soundtrack, I can think of only one rpg that had a soundtrack I enjoyed as much and that came out almost a decade ago; the third elder scrolls game.

The people that want you to defile the Urn think that a dragon is a reincarnated  goddess figure though. I don't see that being a better alternative. Also, as far as most followers of Andraste think the Urn is a myth or it was lost long ago. Only a crazy  scholar thinks the ashes can even be found at all...well, besides the crazy cultists themselves.

Modifié par vigna, 28 mars 2010 - 03:52 .

[vigna]

Volourn wrote...

L0L This entire thread has been repetive. Everyone whose posted more than one has repeated themselves.

Your repetiveness doesn't change the fact that Zev is a scumbag murderer and calling me a troll also doens't change the fact that Zev is a scumbag murderer.

I don't like zev, and also don't blindly trust him. Most of the time I'm forced to kill him after he betrays me and  other times I kill him outright.

[Varenus Luckmann]

Dragon Age needs some Bishop.

[Varenus Luckmann]

Volourn wrote...
I didn't answer fans of a scumbag murderer like Zev's questions. You support child and girlfriend murdering scumbag murderers.

Zev is a scumbag murderer. This is FACT.

I find that the pejorative "scumbag" is far too subjective to be called a fact.

He is a murderer, though. He even says so himself.

[Varenus Luckmann]

Sabriana wrote...
Yeah, little princess Volly isn't very witty. He never has been, I'm afraid.
It must be a bitter feeling when failing as a troll. Report to RPG-Codex at once to report your epic fail, and take your punishment like the princess you are, dear, sweet Volly.

What are you talking about? This would be right up RPGCodex' alley. It violently punishes the player for playing in-character.

[Sarah1281]

Only a crazy scholar thinks the ashes can even be found at all...well, besides the crazy cultists themselves.

They don't need to believe; they have proof. And the scholar's not that crazy, he managed to track Haven down and I'm actually really curious how he managed that. Sten's impressed we found his sword? Going to where he lost it, asking the guy standing right there who has it, going to see said guy in a place we were already heading to, finding out who he sold the sword to, and then buying the sword off the purchaser? Compared to finding Haven? Yeah, it doesn't even compare.

[sylvanaerie]

Sarah1281 wrote...

Only a crazy scholar thinks the ashes can even be found at all...well, besides the crazy cultists themselves.

They don't need to believe; they have proof. And the scholar's not that crazy, he managed to track Haven down and I'm actually really curious how he managed that. Sten's impressed we found his sword? Going to where he lost it, asking the guy standing right there who has it, going to see said guy in a place we were already heading to, finding out who he sold the sword to, and then buying the sword off the purchaser? Compared to finding Haven? Yeah, it doesn't even compare.

Im a cheap ****.  I just made him turn it over, I didn't buy it back.  He seemed perfectly willing to just let me take it off his hands.  Esp with Sten glaring at him lol

[Sarah1281]

I always pay for it because while I can't imagine it cost him six soverign, he did legally buy the sword and it wasn't his fault if the owner was still alive and wanted it back. Besides, this is right before I threaten to kill him if he doesn't get down to Murdock and sign up to defend the town.

[sylvanaerie]

Sarah1281 wrote...

I always pay for it because while I can't imagine it cost him six soverign, he did legally buy the sword and it wasn't his fault if the owner was still alive and wanted it back. Besides, this is right before I threaten to kill him if he doesn't get down to Murdock and sign up to defend the town.

I tried that once before defending Redcliffe and I had the key bug. When I went to get the sword out the chest wasn't lootable.  So now I wait till after the village is saved to finish that quest.  lol and I always persuade him to go help by telling him I will speak to Murdock or Teagan about him (though I can't initiate any conversations about that with them anyway).

[Volourn]

"What are you talking about? This would be right up RPGCodex' alley. It violently punishes the player for playing in-character"

On top of that, the Codex would loathe you for lumping me in with them. They ain't my biggest fans because I like BIO games. *shrug*

Zev is who he is. He is a scumbag murderer but he can be interesting. Nothing wrong with that, some of the most inetresting people are scumbag murderers.


"I find that the pejorative "scumbag" is far too subjective to be called a fact."

I agree. It's not a 'fact' taht the Holocaust was wrong. It's a matter of perspective.

By its nature, a murderer is a scumbag espicially since Zev murders people coldly and enjoys it so much he taunts them while it happens.

I could even understand (though it's still majorly wrong) when a murder occurs in a fit of passion. but, repeatedly committing murderers over and over again is nothing but scummery.

Nothing wrong with liking Zev the character; but him being a scumbag murderer is just who he is.

Heck, I like Morrigan but that still doesn't chnage the fact that she can be a cold witch.

One can like Oghren and that doesn't change the fact that he's a drunk sexist pervert .

*shrug*

Modifié par Volourn, 28 mars 2010 - 06:33 .

[frostajulie]

Volourn wrote...

L0L This entire thread has been repetive. Everyone whose posted more than one has repeated themselves.

Your repetiveness doesn't change the fact that Zev is a scumbag murderer and calling me a troll also doens't change the fact that Zev is a scumbag murderer.

Actually you are the one repeating yourself over and over.  You are right, Zev is a murderer.  But as has been pointed out the term scumbag is not a fact.  It is an opinion, one you have every right to possess after all like ass holes we all have one.  But you stating it is a fact repeatedly does not make it so.

Zev IMO is the most compassionate, heroic murderer I have ever met in game.  He begs for mercy multiple times for many people, expresses regret for a past he had no control over and given the chance will always with only the barest amount of friendship offerred become a person who fights beside the Grey warden to save the world from archdemon and blight..

Zev is is a heroic and compassionate murderer.  How would you like it if I tagged my opinion with the words It is a fact?  Afterall that is what you keep doing, we can both agree that Zev is a murderer.  But obviously we both have different interpretations of the kind of murderer he is.

And from a gaming perspective and the perspective of the world of Ferelden, those interpretations matter.

Zev is a murderer.

This is a fact.

Zev is a scumbag murderer.

That is an opinion.

Zev is a heroic and compassionate murderer.

That is an opinion

adding capiche to the end of all your repetitive posts is you being a jerk and acting like a troll.
But that is also just an opinion.

[Varenus Luckmann]

Oh wait, what the hell. I didn't see it was you, Volourn.

Posting in a Volourn thread.

[Volourn]

"Zev is a heroic and compassionate murderer."



Hitler is not evil. He was a swell guy. He was heroic standing up for what he belived in and staying true to his convictions.



Again, this entire thread is repetitive. How many times have you decide to attack me and use the weak troll thing? LMAO



Or repeatedly said that Zev is awesome and innocent.



Bottom line is Zev is a scumbag murderer. This is fact.

[Varenus Luckmann]

Volourn wrote...
Hitler is not evil. He was a swell guy. He was heroic, standing up for what he belived in and staying true to his convictions.

[...]

Quoted for truth.