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[Atomic Space Vixen]

I really like Alistair and would love to see him back. The only problem is that he can die, and Bioware's not likely going to add someone who can die back as recruitable. They may make a cameo, but in your party? They'd have to balance him out with another character for you to recruit if he died in your character's play through and that's just too expensive and resource intensive.

This is the reason we didn't see certain characters back in ME2 except for cameos.

So sadly I can't sign the petition for this reason.

[Lowenhart]

/signed if only to get a second option at getting him killed again its the small pleasures in life that matters.

[Mystiana]

/signed

[T3HB3N]

Signed.



I'd like, for the next Dragon Age game, for Orlais to invade Ferelda again, to be honest. Set maybe a year or two after Awakening... that'd be cool.

[Bratt1204]

T3HB3N wrote...

Signed.

I'd like, for the next Dragon Age game, for Orlais to invade Ferelda again, to be honest. Set maybe a year or two after Awakening... that'd be cool.

Yes, it would.

[Daneres]

nuculerman wrote...

Allistair is whiny and annoying. I'm a bit surprised at all the lady love. My gf romanced him because he was the best looking male, but even she thought he was a little sissy. He abandons the Grey Wardens in their time of need to spend his life as a drunkard when you try to show a mentally unstable man mercy and thinks talking in slow lofty tones makes him sound more "kingly."

Bring back anyone BUT Allistair and Wynne, please. Really, the only male that I think worth writing into the story again would be Nathaniel.

I LOVE Nathaniel and Anders and very much want them to be romanceable in future games. I am an Alistair fan but after playing Awakening even I wished that Nathaniel and Anders were there rather than him and Zevran.

[Daneres]

nuculerman wrote...

Eshaye wrote...

nuculerman wrote...

Allistair is whiny and annoying. I'm a bit surprised at all the lady love.  

RE: Kaidan

These companions often labeled as whiny and annoying are written especially for women, or at least the type to appreciate a man with his own mind and in touch with himself (no no not that way.. ). 

It's no surprise at all. 

And I've signed  

As an aside I adore Wynne and despise Loghain, so there's another clue as to why some people might love certain companions and others won't. It's a lot to do with your own experiences. 

Yeah... the type of woman that finds Allistair to be an example of a man with his own mind and in touch with himself has serious daddy issues.  

Similarly, Lelianna and Morrigan were written for men who needed better moms.  Seriously.  Lelianna is a girl and Allistair is a boy.  I want a woman and ladies should want a man.

Hey! Whoa now. I find Alistair to be a very good man and I have no Daddy issues. I had a great father. Though, again I point out...that I prefer Anders and Nathaniel to Alistair now. But that doesn't mean I wouldn't want to see him return one day.

[Daneres]

Blessed Silence wrote...

I was just commenting to my husband about DA2 having Morrigan's child as the character the player can be, but that would pidgeonhole players into being ONLY human.

Quite honestly, my only reason for wanting to see Morrigan and her demon child again is so I can kill them both good and proper, rid the world of them forever. And if Alistair has a problem with that (if he's the father) then I will happily kill him too if he gets in my way, even if my girl is his wife or his lover. Death to all three of them if they ****** me off.

[Daneres]

errant_knight wrote...

Ezio Faraglia wrote...

ajyl2k wrote...

Maybe they can introduce Alistair's real mother. Fiona the Grey Warden mage from the Dragon Age: The Calling novel. Kinda ironic that a mage-hunting Templar's mother was an elven mage.

Holy crap, Alistair's mom is an elven warden mage? That is Ironic considering he was trained by the chantry (who hate elves) to hunt mages (which his mom is) Damn

This is complete speculation. It could just as easily be that there's another bastard of Maric's out there. Personally, I think that's more likely and would make for more interesting plot developments--particularly if that child is older than Alistair and isn't a mage. Don't know that the nobility for Fereldan would want mage genetics entering the royal blood line, though. On the otherhand, an heir might be possible there.

I have some thoughts on this - reaching though they may be. If you played Awakening I'm sure everyone noticed that Anders looks a hell of a lot like Maric, Cailan, and Alistair. And there was that rumor spoken of in the game (though the innkeeper said it ridiculously) that he heard Cailan wasn't Maric's real son that his real son had been locked away since he was born, and then he says, "A Mage, perhaps." And why is it that after seven escape attempts from the Circle Tower, running off, harming Templars in the process that Anders was never actually executed. I mean, let's face it, Templars like killing Mages no matter the reason, so why is it that this constant cause of frustration and anger for them hasn't been executed without a second thought like any other Mage would be. I think that would be a good storyline.

But, if you ask me, I think Ferelden should just do away with the whole Theirin line of kings and queens. Maric didn't want to be king, Cailan didn't want to be king, and Alistair didn't want to be king. So why not just give them what they want and raise a new noble family to royalty.

[Daneres]

I sign this petition, but only on the grounds that Alistair didn't die in Origins. Mind you, after having him be with Morrigan and creating a demonic child with her, I would like the option to kill him, along with her and his child if the child needs to be killed and he gets in my way. Obviously, if this child turns out to be a great evil, your character created this monster and should be able to destroy it in order to rectify that mistake (and I'm sure it is a mistake) and restore balance to Thedas.

[hawat333]

Mm, I killed him on my last playthrough.

So he'll be Zombistair?

[ShadowSoulReaper]

I need him back, or I'm going to have to be Morrigans demon baby. If not, I'm going kill someone. OH!! I wanna be a awakened darkspawn too

[Wolfaura]

Why couldn't they bring him back? After all that brought back wardens that had th US ending.

[Lintanis]

Think it will be just your warden in the sequel would make it alot easier for Bioware to write the story. Probably going to your calling at the start of the game that be cool

[SRWill64]

Kryyptehk wrote...

Sybarit wrote...

You are making assumptions there Kryypthek.

"A Ferelden king would NOT have an heir with a Orlesian Empress if he want to remain king of his realm. If they married, Ferelden would become part of Orlais. Not to mention the citizens would revolt and it would cause a civil war."

Read about a consort, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consort

There is no rule that a King would have to submit his Kingdom to the Empire.

2nd, no Empress would share her power with a husband, since it would propably in this instance raise a lot of problems. Thats my consort theory.

NF isnt really an option here, since I´m guessing the game story IS that Alistair marries Anora if he marries at all.

On the other hand. Civil war could really open up the game. Orlais nobles want to kick out the Empress consort. Murder, in comes the Antivan Crows. Hehe

I´m just speculating but think of the possibilities

This is fun, keep the ideas coming and rebutals please.

Ok, please don't misunderstand me when I say this. I enjoy discussing this kind of stuff.

But there is NO WAY that Celene would become a consort. And Alistair wouldn't because there would be no point. Why would a king become a consort when he's already a king? I could see him becoming consort if he was in love with her, but he isn't, and I don't really think they are going to just have him suddenly dump Anora or FHN to marry some empress from Orlais, a empire that controlled his country for nearly a century. Not to mention to Nobles in the Bannorn would probably kill Alistair themselves before they let him marry her.

So I think that if we are ever controlling someone that isn't the Warden, they will be so far into the future that it won't matter, or it will be in Antiva or Orlais, where who marries the king won't matter.

If you haven't got the point from the game yet, Alistair only does 'the deed' when he's heavily infatuated or in love (lines being hazy there, as in reality...sometimes you think it's one whan it is the other).  If he doesn't know the Orlesian Empress, he certainly won't; and by the time he meets her he will already be married, either to Anora or the PC, so he STILL wouldn't do it. He is his father's son, but I believe he has a stronger moral code than Maric was raised with.

[SRWill64]

Wolfaura wrote...

Why couldn't they bring him back? After all that brought back wardens that had th US ending.

Huh?

[SRWill64]

hawat333 wrote...

Mm, I killed him on my last playthrough.
So he'll be Zombistair?

You killed the King? So I suppose you're like Loghain, then? lol

[SRWill64]

Daneres wrote...

errant_knight wrote...

Ezio Faraglia wrote...

ajyl2k wrote...

Maybe they can introduce Alistair's real mother. Fiona the Grey Warden mage from the Dragon Age: The Calling novel. Kinda ironic that a mage-hunting Templar's mother was an elven mage.

Holy crap, Alistair's mom is an elven warden mage? That is Ironic considering he was trained by the chantry (who hate elves) to hunt mages (which his mom is) Damn

This is complete speculation. It could just as easily be that there's another bastard of Maric's out there. Personally, I think that's more likely and would make for more interesting plot developments--particularly if that child is older than Alistair and isn't a mage. Don't know that the nobility for Fereldan would want mage genetics entering the royal blood line, though. On the otherhand, an heir might be possible there.

I have some thoughts on this - reaching though they may be. If you played Awakening I'm sure everyone noticed that Anders looks a hell of a lot like Maric, Cailan, and Alistair. And there was that rumor spoken of in the game (though the innkeeper said it ridiculously) that he heard Cailan wasn't Maric's real son that his real son had been locked away since he was born, and then he says, "A Mage, perhaps." And why is it that after seven escape attempts from the Circle Tower, running off, harming Templars in the process that Anders was never actually executed. I mean, let's face it, Templars like killing Mages no matter the reason, so why is it that this constant cause of frustration and anger for them hasn't been executed without a second thought like any other Mage would be. I think that would be a good storyline.

But, if you ask me, I think Ferelden should just do away with the whole Theirin line of kings and queens. Maric didn't want to be king, Cailan didn't want to be king, and Alistair didn't want to be king. So why not just give them what they want and raise a new noble family to royalty.

Fact one, Anders is NOT related to any of those he looks like (Yes, he DOES look like them); it has already been stated by the great and mighty Bioware people.
Fact two, Cailan never actually came out and said he didn't want to be king. He  told Loghain at Ostagar 'And you will remember who is king.' That from a man who didn't want the throne? I don't think so.
Fact three, Maric never said he didn't want the throne, only that he didn't feel worthy of it.
And as far as why they didn't kill Anders...I don't know, either. Maybe, like Connor, he is some nobleman's child.

[SRWill64]

Cenwyn wrote...

Bratt1204 wrote...

For those who may be interested, there is a petition to keep Alistair as a character/companion in future DA titles.

http://www.thepetiti...e-want-alistair

Oh hell yes and I have signed. I want my beloved at my side for obvious reason but also because we tank so well together as fighting partners.

Oh, yeah! Alistair and I kick ass, too. But I find it disturbing the amount of people who think he's a whimp. They really don't develop him right or they don't use him...

[SRWill64]

7th_Phoenix wrote...

ajyl2k wrote...

Maybe they can introduce Alistair's real mother. Fiona the Grey Warden mage from the Dragon Age: The Calling novel. Kinda ironic that a mage-hunting Templar's mother was an elven mage.

I really need to read the novel.

Yes, you should. DA: The Broken Throne first and DA: The Calling second by David Gaider.
They are really good.

[SRWill64]

DragonShepard138 wrote...

Alistair is a cool warrior to have around, but as a person he annoyed the hell outta me with his remarks when he disapproved of what I did. When I tried to make amends there was nothing I could do for him, he also refused to give me the templar ability. Also the fact that he doesn't accept the fact that he is the rightful heir to the throne and stand up for his people when they need help really annoys me. I took all of Allistair's gear during the Landsmeet battle, then recruited Loghain and had Anora execute Allistair. I talked with Loghain and he really isn't that bad of a guy. Just that his methods may seem "renegade like" if you know what I mean. He had a good track record, then screwed it up; but at least he wouldn't wimp out on me.

If you don't like Alistair and see that Loghain is a traitorous bastard who also betrayed Maric more times than I care to count, obviously you don't deserve as good a man as Alistair. He can be my buddy/pal/friend/lover anytime because I see that he has a strong sense of justice, strong morals, strong sense of right and wrong, he's sweet,and cute and has a wonderful sense of humor, if a bit corny at times; but I love him. He fits my gameplay almost 100%. I play my characters as close to paladin as I can get, anyway because that's just me. And if you think that's a bad thing, then you and I have nothing to discuss.

[SRWill64]

VioletCoast wrote...

This wouldn't work for me, either I died or Alistair died. All the PCs that died will not be brought over to DAA, I don't agree with it, she died for a reason.

But I agree with Walina, all the other LIs should be, in some part, with your PC in future games.

Make the deal with Morrigan; neither one of you has to die....and Alistair will do it.

[SRWill64]

Lowenhart wrote...

DragonShepard138 wrote...

Alistair is a cool warrior to have around, but as a person he annoyed the hell outta me with his remarks when he disapproved of what I did. When I tried to make amends there was nothing I could do for him, he also refused to give me the templar ability. Also the fact that he doesn't accept the fact that he is the rightful heir to the throne and stand up for his people when they need help really annoys me. I took all of Allistair's gear during the Landsmeet battle, then recruited Loghain and had Anora execute Allistair. I talked with Loghain and he really isn't that bad of a guy. Just that his methods may seem "renegade like" if you know what I mean. He had a good track record, then screwed it up; but at least he wouldn't wimp out on me.

Cant say i dont agree on some level, Aliaster gets on my nerve is like a grown up acting like his still a teenager, sure he throws a couple of funny qoutes but mostly his annoying, he doesnt wanna take responsibility of anything and usually can only ciritize every half good or good surgestions thats put on the table, how he ever became a templar or a wardens beyond me to comprehend he doesnt actually point to that image for me, being more a lackey than anything choosing to have others make his decisions for him and then complain if it isnt what he exspected it be.

The drop fell for me at the landsmeet when he wanted to excute Loghain okay his methods werent the finest, but he did it in good will. surgesting that you kill a role model who could possibly help restore the grey wardens in ferelden and possibly make future blight less a threat seems silly, just because your spoiled and cant stand the notion your sense of justice isnt the same as everyone else logic dictates.

If i dont see aliaster again ill be more than thrilled, if you ask me he dident deserve to be neither king nor a wardens as he is obviously as bad materials for either as Cailen was as king.

You obviously like playing the evil side of characters and drawing the negative out in everyone around your PC. If you didn't you would Alistair in a whole new light.

[SRWill64]

SOLID_EVEREST wrote...

If anything, I would rather have a younger Teryn Loghain as my buddy in the next DA. The Teryn is a way better man than Alistair, and probably should've been the main character. I'm still pissed at Alistair for what he did in the end, and I will probably never forgive him...

Yes, the Teryn is so much better a man that he betrayed not only King Cailan, Maric's heir, but he betrayed Maric more times that I care to think about in the book....each one worse than the one before, just like Flemeth said.....
I can see why you think this.....and you probably like torturing kittens and puppies, too.

Modifié par SRWill64, 13 avril 2010 - 02:59 .