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Could you explain why I have an orange belt in kickboxing, then? Has my club just been confused all this time?

...Is this one of those "American kickboxing" clubs?  That would explain quite a bit.  <_<

As for realism, do you honestly think that the male PC is more believable?

In some ways, sure. Though there was more than just the physichality of it.  IMO the DR ending is better resolved through use of a male PC for example (and you KNOW the DR is too big of a plot twist to go unused in later games). 

The whole Alistair/Morrigan thing seems a bit clumsy in comparison, and I'm not even thinking about Lohgain.

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Could you explain why I have an orange belt in kickboxing, then? Has my club just been confused all this time?



As for realism, do you honestly think that the male PC is more believable? All it takes to kill a person is an arrow or the strike of a sword in the right place. How is a person who can slaughter huge gaggles of enemy swordsmen and archers ever realistic?




Agreed.



And you have to remember that this is a game. In this fictional universe, there are elves and dwarves and magic. Since there are no statistical differences between female and male characters, only between the races, it is safe to assume that there are no gender differences in this game universe, as opposed to whichever there are in the real world.




Disagree. The fact that men and women have the same attributes/talents etc. is a gameplay mechanic, not an indication of gender homogeny in Dragon Age. Otherwise, all the powergamers would be playing male only for warriors (+STR) and female only for mages (+WILL), or some other ridiculous faux-pas cliche.



From a lore-perspective, Ferelden is DEEPLY entrenched in gender roles, and it is logical that a MHN would be better trained in combat than a FHN. It also makes sense that a FHN would be more cautious and more reserved on the whole. Of course, it's a single player game, so you can role-play whatever you want. But I do think the OP has a point.

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And you have to remember that this is a game. In this fictional universe, there are elves and dwarves and magic. Since there are no statistical differences between female and male characters, only between the races, it is safe to assume that there are no gender differences in this game universe, as opposed to whichever there are in the real world.


Disagree. The fact that men and women have the same attributes/talents etc. is a gameplay mechanic, not an indication of gender homogeny in Dragon Age. Otherwise, all the powergamers would be playing male only for warriors (+STR) and female only for mages (+WILL), or some other ridiculous faux-pas cliche.

From a lore-perspective, Ferelden is DEEPLY entrenched in gender roles, and it is logical that a MHN would be better trained in combat than a FHN. It also makes sense that a FHN would be more cautious and more reserved on the whole. Of course, it's a single player game, so you can role-play whatever you want. But I do think the OP has a point.


One could look at it like Tolkien's elves, where men are fighters and woman are healers not because of anything gender based, but because killing makes healing more difficult.  So they focus on one thing at the expense of the other.  I know that's not reality, but it's sort of the mindset I bring to any rpg game, from D&D to DAO.

And yes, my HNF is waaay more reserved than my HNM.  She is going to be warrior, and no one is going to stop her, but she's very careful because she knows she has to maintain a certain public appearance.  I would disagree with the male being better trained than the female in that origin.  I don't think Bryce would handicap his daughter that way.

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traversc wrote...

From a lore-perspective, Ferelden is DEEPLY entrenched in gender roles, and it is logical that a MHN would be better trained in combat than a FHN. It also makes sense that a FHN would be more cautious and more reserved on the whole. Of course, it's a single player game, so you can role-play whatever you want. But I do think the OP has a point.

I agree with the first part, not with the second.  The only thing that is different about the female noble fighter is that she is more unusual than the male, not that she is more or less trained or skilled.  Bryce Cousland is a progressive father, as the origin amply indicates, and nowhere is it said that the femCousland has been knitting socks rather than whacking practice dummies.  In fact, Eleanor's dialogue indicates the latter is just about all you do and she despairs of finding you a husband because of it.

I also don't see any reason why a female warden should be more reserved or cautious.  Those who are accepted as warriors are accepted.  We see women in the front lines of Cailan's army, and Cauthrien is giving orders, hardly a wilting violet.

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I think nobles are seen differently, at least female nobles. I could be wrong, but that was my take on it. Regardless, that's how my HNF sees it. She probably being more cautious than she needs to be, but she's young and hasn't quite figured the balance out yet.

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 I would disagree with the male being better trained than the female in that origin.  I don't think Bryce would handicap his daughter that way.


You're still not thinking about htis from a Ferelden perspective.  Not learning how to fight is not the handicap, LEARNING how to fight is the handicap because doing so would be at the expense of learning skills women need to survive: like how to cook, clean and be demure :huh:.  Simply put, fighting is not how women in Ferelden rise to power.  They do that by becoming Chantry leaders or by playing the field of politics (Anora).  On the other hand, Loghain rose to power because he was a war hero; sure, it's conceivable for a woman to do this in Ferelden, but it's unlikely, because 99% of Ferelden's army is men. 

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traversc wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

 I would disagree with the male being better trained than the female in that origin.  I don't think Bryce would handicap his daughter that way.


You're still not thinking about htis from a Ferelden perspective.  Not learning how to fight is not the handicap, LEARNING how to fight is the handicap because doing so would be at the expense of learning other skills women needed to survive: like how to cook, clean and be demure.  Simply put, fighting is not how women in Ferelden rise to power.  They do that by becoming Chantry leaders or by playing the field of politics (Anora).  On the other hand, Loghain rose to power because he was a war hero; that would be unlikely for a woman, because 99% of Ferelden's army is men. 


Ummmm, I think you're playing a different game.  Ser Cauthrien did pretty well.  There were many women in the army at Ostegar.  And a noble woman wouldn't need to know how to cook, clean, or be demure, actually.

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ejoslin wrote...

traversc wrote...

LadyDamodred wrote...

 I would disagree with the male being better trained than the female in that origin.  I don't think Bryce would handicap his daughter that way.


You're still not thinking about htis from a Ferelden perspective.  Not learning how to fight is not the handicap, LEARNING how to fight is the handicap because doing so would be at the expense of learning other skills women needed to survive: like how to cook, clean and be demure.  Simply put, fighting is not how women in Ferelden rise to power.  They do that by becoming Chantry leaders or by playing the field of politics (Anora).  On the other hand, Loghain rose to power because he was a war hero; that would be unlikely for a woman, because 99% of Ferelden's army is men. 


Ummmm, I think you're playing a different game.  Ser Cauthrien did pretty well.  There were many women in the army at Ostegar.  And a noble woman wouldn't need to know how to cook, clean, or be demure, actually.


Not to mention the Orlesian lady knight, who fought for the right of women to wield the sword. Or the woman who founded the silent sisters order.

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Could you explain why I have an orange belt in kickboxing, then? Has my club just been confused all this time?

As for realism, do you honestly think that the male PC is more believable? All it takes to kill a person is an arrow or the strike of a sword in the right place. How is a person who can slaughter huge gaggles of enemy swordsmen and archers ever realistic?


Agreed.


And you have to remember that this is a game. In this fictional universe, there are elves and dwarves and magic. Since there are no statistical differences between female and male characters, only between the races, it is safe to assume that there are no gender differences in this game universe, as opposed to whichever there are in the real world.


Disagree. The fact that men and women have the same attributes/talents etc. is a gameplay mechanic, not an indication of gender homogeny in Dragon Age. Otherwise, all the powergamers would be playing male only for warriors (+STR) and female only for mages (+WILL), or some other ridiculous faux-pas cliche.

From a lore-perspective, Ferelden is DEEPLY entrenched in gender roles, and it is logical that a MHN would be better trained in combat than a FHN. It also makes sense that a FHN would be more cautious and more reserved on the whole. Of course, it's a single player game, so you can role-play whatever you want. But I do think the OP has a point.


I know that. All I'm saying is that it isn't always plausible to use real-life logic onto fictional worlds. It feels kind of discussing the Boss from Metal Gear Solid 3 all over again.

And deeply entrenched? How? From my understanding, Ferelden is very progressive, and the only reason people think it's strange that a woman would be a warrior of occupation is due to how unusual it is, not because women are somehow considered less capable. Which is a situation I am rather familiar with, myself. When I wanted to become an electrician, people constantly pointed my gender out to me. "Girls can use tools, too!" Honestly.

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You're still not thinking about htis from a Ferelden perspective.  Not learning how to fight is not the handicap, LEARNING how to fight is the handicap because doing so would be at the expense of learning skills women need to survive: like how to cook, clean and be demure :huh:.  Simply put, fighting is not how women in Ferelden rise to power.  They do that by becoming Chantry leaders or by playing the field of politics (Anora).  On the other hand, Loghain rose to power because he was a war hero; sure, it's conceivable for a woman to do this in Ferelden, but it's unlikely, because 99% of Ferelden's army is men. 

It's unlikely, but it happens.  And the female warden is one of those for whom it happens.  So while your point is right for 99% of women in Ferelden, it's irrelevant for the PC.  She is one of those few for whom a warrior life IS her way to fame.  Like the Rebel Queen or Aveline of Orlais (edit:  or Rowan Guerrin), this isn't completely unheard of.

Besides which no Cousland daughter is going to have to learn to cook or clean (they have servants for that sort of thing), and being demure isn't high on the family priority list, either.  That sort of thing is more an issue for, say, a city elf, whose father warns you not to tell your prospective husband about your martial training.  (Although after meeting Nelaros, you realize that's not going to be an issue with him, either.)

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I think you forget Ferelden has a long line of noble fighting women:

Elethea Cousland - Battled Calenhad
Eleanor Cousland - Battled Orlais
Queen Moira - Do I need to explain?
Queen Rowan - Fought with Maric and Loghain against Orlais
Bann Alfstanna - Clearly a rogue, she's at the Landsmeet in armor and her voice carries weight.
Baan Camenae - Alfstanna's ancestor who also opposed Calenhad.

I'm sure there are many more that the lore never goes into.  Ferelden is a meritocracy in regards to fighting.  If you can fight, you're accepted, regardless of gender.

Also, the HNF is be trained to run a teyrnir. She will be either the second highest noble after the monarch (if you believe Dairren) or possibly marry another high-ranking noble.  Whatever she becomes, learning to cook and clean is not goign to be important.

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I'd be surprised if Anora didn't know at least a little fighting, given who her father is. Granted, she's not a fighter by profession but as she was destined to be Queen from the time she was very young and betrothed to Cailan, being able to defend herself would be a good idea.

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And a noble woman wouldn't need to know how to cook, clean, or be demure, actually.




That's nice. Try not to take things so freaking personally, as I was only joking about cleaning and cooking. But being demure is dead on the money for women's expected role in Ferelden. (typified by Anora). Don't get mad at me. If you want to be mad, be mad at Bioware for choosing to incorporate mysognoistic medieval gender roles. Although I think it is a very nice that they showed awareness of this fact by giving power of the chantry to the female gender.



Elethea Cousland - Battled Calenhad

Eleanor Cousland - Battled Orlais

Queen Moira - Do I need to explain?

Queen Rowan - Fought with Maric and Loghain against Orlais

Bann Alfstanna - Clearly a rogue, she's at the Landsmeet in armor and her voice carries weight.

Baan Camenae - Alfstanna's ancestor who also opposed Calenhad.



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And the female warden is one of those for whom it happens. So while your point is right for 99% of women in Ferelden, it's irrelevant for the PC. She is one of those few for whom a warrior life IS her way to fame. Like the Rebel Queen or Aveline of Orlais (edit: or Rowan Guerrin), this isn't completely unheard of.




Exactly. There are of course exceptions, and as I stated, you can roleplay whatever you want. I'm just saying that the OP does have valid criticisms with regards to certain interactions. It seems out of place that Alistair, being through and through Ferelden, would immediately acqueisce power to the female warden, who is not only of the gender less associated with physical prowess, but who is, lore-wise, a heckuva lot less experienced. More realistically, being a typified knight, he should have gone in to chivalry mode: taking charge, opening doors for you, running in front to block arrows from hitting you, etc.



Note that the fact that he didn't for EITHER gender is what lead a lot of people to assume he was a bisexual love interest as well.

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First, sorry that I didn't read the whole thread (not time for that atm), so I might be saying something someone has already stated. But as a female myself, I think you do seem to have very strong opinions about my gender, how we are and how we should be. Haven't you ever heard of the power of a strong mind over the body? When you get influential enough, the gender does not matter. That is why I always have my persuade in DA full, and that is how I play my female characters. They are strong willed, strong persons, who would very much dislike if someone would start to tell them what to do (as I am in real life, come to think of it, I dislike men who think they can bully me around hehe). I think my characters would ditch Alistair if he'd start to be too commanding. ;)

It is also a question about trust and confidence. Of course it also depends on how you roleplay your female characters. I roleplay mine as confident women, who are not afraid of the darkspawn, nor are they afraid of Sten. I mean, HNF almost single handedly killed dozens of soldiers in her origins, CEF did the same, and also was bold enough to stood up against a human noble. Why would they be afraid of Sten, or anything else for that matter? Or why couldn't they overcome that fear, since it is obvious they are meant to be strong willed?

I admit, there is no such strong man as a love interest as some might prefer. In a way I'd have liked to see someone who would've given some kind of challenge for the female PC, like arguments and such (without the approval dropping too much). Alistair is funny, innocent, cute and awkward (a lot like my real life husband actually), and my HNF fell for him just for that, but she does know she is the stronger of them two, that she has to make the decisions. She was raised as a noble, and I roleplay her as being a slightly older than Alistair is, so it comes naturally from her to give the orders. Besides I always think she trained on her own, and with Fergus, depending on if I play a warrior or a rogue. It is obvious that Fergus values his little sister a lot, even in ways that other family members don't find that suitable.

With a CEF it should be even more obvious, her life has been struggle all her life. If you want to play her for example that she'd leave Sten in his cage, why don't you? You don't need Sten to finish the game. And for me Zev would suit well with a CEF, of course depending on how she is roleplayed again. Even Alistair, because the conflict would be delicious to roleplay, I mean, CEF falling for a human, that's really interesting in my opinion.

One romance option is of course also Leliana, which I prefered with my elf mage female and with my CEF as well.

And yes, female PC can become best friends with Morrigan, I really liked the way she changed when that happens.

I actually haven't finished the game once with my male characters. Well, I've only finished it once till now anyway, with my HNF warrior. I don't know why I seem to have difficulties playing DA with a male character, because I haven't had that in other games (BG2 I only finished with a male character for example). I think I find the game the opposite, I like it more with a female character, maybe because I feel it a bit more challenging, like in real life, a woman must fight more to get approval from people (like from Sten for example, who thinks women should not be warriors). Maybe playing a male in DA feels too stereotypical for me? I don't know, maybe I really should try it some of these days. ;)

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Ubasti wrote...
I actually haven't finished the game once with my male characters. Well, I've only finished it once till now anyway, with my HNF warrior. I don't know why I seem to have difficulties playing DA with a male character, because I haven't had that in other games (BG2 I only finished with a male character for example). I think I find the game the opposite, I like it more with a female character, maybe because I feel it a bit more challenging, like in real life, a woman must fight more to get approval from people (like from Sten for example, who thinks women should not be warriors). Maybe playing a male in DA feels too stereotypical for me? I don't know, maybe I really should try it some of these days. ;)




That's the exact same thing I see playing this game.  When I first started I played a male because that's what I've always played in other games.  But since I've been playing female in DA I can't go back to playing a male.  For me it's more challenging, maybe because of Sten's remarks, or even that guy in Redcliff who says something about female Grey Wardens.  Point is it's a challenge playing a female, DA kind of reminds me of a proving ground for women, playing a male well it's not really a challenge lol.  I find it more exciting playing a female.

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I guess, to me anyway, a lack of self confidence isn't an attractive quality.  And from a male pov anyway it's definitely not something you're groomed to display to women irl.

If he proposed it would at least show he's confident enough to go after the one he "loves."  Forcing it on him kind of cheapens it to me.


We all have lack of self-confidence. To show it honestly is more attractive to me, than to hide it with trying to act like nothing's wrong. I guess that's why we women like Alistair, because he's honest with his feelings and emotions. He shows them, unlike men in real life, who think they have to be strong and 'manly', and thus can't show what they're really feeling inside. I always shun away in real life from men who seem to hide their insecurity by acting 'manly', and even though it would probably be more correct to write a game character that way, I still prefer Alistair as he is.

Btw I was the one who asked my hubby to marry me in real life, so indeed, why it always has to be the man who does it? ;)

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And a noble woman wouldn't need to know how to cook, clean, or be demure, actually.

That's nice. Try not to take things so freaking personally, as I was only joking about cleaning and cooking.

You continue to miss the point, and now you're getting shirty.  Charming.  The response was to the point, not "taking it personally."

Don't get mad at me. If you want to be mad, be mad at Bioware for choosing to incorporate mysognoistic medieval gender roles. Although I think it is a very nice that they showed awareness of this fact by giving power of the chantry to the female gender.

What we are arguing is from game lore.  I don't know how to say this any more plainly.  It is you who are making stuff up.  In-game we see examples of women in military leadership, and yet you insist the Warden is somehow an extreme anomaly.

Exactly. There are of course exceptions, and as I stated, you can roleplay whatever you want.

It's not really a matter of roleplay.  It's a matter of record in the origins that the female PC is known for her martial prowess.

who is, lore-wise, a heckuva lot less experienced.

Unproven.  In fact, disproven.  You're just making stuff up again.

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Exactly. There are of course exceptions, and as I stated, you can roleplay whatever you want. I'm just saying that the OP does have valid criticisms with regards to certain interactions. It seems out of place that Alistair, being through and through Ferelden, would immediately acqueisce power to the female warden, who is not only of the gender less associated with physical prowess, but who is, lore-wise, a heckuva lot less experienced. More realistically, being a typified knight, he should have gone in to chivalry mode: taking charge, opening doors for you, running in front to block arrows from hitting you, etc.

Note that the fact that he didn't for EITHER gender is what lead a lot of people to assume he was a bisexual love interest as well.


No, because you are a Grey Warden.  Duncan would not have recruited you if you weren't capable.  If Alistair did those things, it would be insulting, and he would know that.  Like I said, Ferelden is very much a meritocracy when it comes to fighting.  It's not like he met you at a ball all fancied up.  In that case, then he should do those things.  He meets you wearing armor, weapons strapped your back and you've coming looking for him because you're about to go into the Korcari Wilds and slaughter darkspawn so you can go through a deadly ritual.

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It seems out of place that Alistair, being through and through Ferelden, would immediately acqueisce power to the female warden, who is not only of the gender less associated with physical prowess, but who is, lore-wise, a heckuva lot less experienced. More realistically, being a typified knight, he should have gone in to chivalry mode: taking charge, opening doors for you, running in front to block arrows from hitting you, etc.  

Note that the fact that he didn't for EITHER gender is what lead a lot of people to assume he was a bisexual love interest as well.


Lore-wise, all female Wardens are experienced in combat and in leading a team. Alistair isn't a knight (he is not Ser Alistair), he's an apprentice Templar and its reasonable to assume that, because he had not completed his training, his combat skills would be on par with the Warden.

From a young age, Alistair has lived a sheltered life where he was expected to follow orders. He is not a leader and doesn't want to be, because this scares him - he has never been trained to be a leader. Also, the Chantry is led by women so, for him, being led by a woman would seem normal. 

Until Alistair becomes hardened, he has no confidence in his skills or his ability to lead. He is used to being the clown nobody takes seriously and is also used to having his life directed by others. So, being a follower is where he is comfortable, regardless of the gender of the leader.

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traversc wrote...

And a noble woman wouldn't need to know how to cook, clean, or be demure, actually.


That's nice. Try not to take things so freaking personally, as I was only joking about cleaning and cooking. But being demure is dead on the money for women's expected role in Ferelden. (typified by Anora). Don't get mad at me. If you want to be mad, be mad at Bioware for choosing to incorporate mysognoistic medieval gender roles. Although I think it is a very nice that they showed awareness of this fact by giving power of the chantry to the female gender.


Hah, don't worry, I didn't take it personally and I certainly wasn't mad.  I am curious as to why you cut out so much of my post, however! 

In DAO, there are a lot of strong women, and women DO serve in the armies.  Since you snipped the rest of my post, I'll point it out again.  Many of the women DO know how to fight, and do quite well.  Ser Cauthrien, Loghain's second in command was a woman.  There were many women in the army at Ostegar.  In Fort Drakkon, there is the woman officer who's guarding the door.  Even when you are confronted by Ser Cauthrien in the Arl of Denerim's estate, there are other women among her forces there.

There are more men than women in the military, but you do see plenty of women as well.

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Am I missing something in the game? I didn't get any hints that women are discriminated against in the military in Fereldan. Maybe because I played MHN, and the FDC? I have to play a human female to see the gender roles?

Or is that poster just making it all up in his own head?

All I know is that Orlais and Orzhammar *used to* discriminate against women in the military, but not anymore, after the impact made by certain influential female warriors. Fereldan has always had strong female heroes and leaders, and both sexes represented at all ranks of the military.

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Mlai00 wrote...

Am I missing something in the game? I didn't get any hints that women are discriminated against in the military in Fereldan. Maybe because I played MHN, and the FDC? I have to play a human female to see the gender roles?
Or is that poster just making it all up in his own head?

I don't think they're discriminated against, but I know while playing a FNH warrior, *several* NPCs comment on how odd/uncommon it is to see a woman in her role.  Even Howe mentions it in the very first cutscene.

While I wouldn't say women are discouraged from taking up arms, it still seems far from the norm in Fereldan.

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Mlai00 wrote...

Am I missing something in the game? I didn't get any hints that women are discriminated against in the military in Fereldan. Maybe because I played MHN, and the FDC? I have to play a human female to see the gender roles?
Or is that poster just making it all up in his own head?

I don't think they're discriminated against, but I know while playing a FNH warrior, *several* NPCs comment on how odd/uncommon it is to see a woman in her role.  Even Howe mentions it in the very first cutscene.

While I wouldn't say women are discouraged from taking up arms, it still seems far from the norm in Fereldan.


I suppose this is something that can go either way.  Because when I play, I see a lot of women at Ostagar, I see plenty in Loghain's army, I see Ser Cauthrien, I see women in her force.  The Dalish army seems to be as many women as men.

There are a LOT of women who fight.  

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I enjoy playing a female in this game. Or for this matter being female myself, this is my choice by default anyway (big surprise, ehh?) Even my main Shepard is female. That's so great in Bioware games, the female campaign feels equal to me -- can't say that for (m)any other game companies/devs.



However in Dragon Age, even from a neutral POV I don't see any single point WHY a female Warden should be less capable than a male one. That's pigeonholing of our modern society. But Ferelden is built as a society where both women and men can fight and is a pretty normal picture. As mentioned by Zevran or Leliana, a fighting woman (warrior) wouldn't be accepted in Antiva or Orlais.



As for my F!Dalish, she has been trained in dual wielding since she was able to walk as a child by her parents, who where trained/skillled rogues (as mentioned in her origin), so I don't see a problem with her being able to fight. Alone for the hunt she needed very good skills and the capability to kill, so she had learned all her life to sink her blades into flesh. Paired with her proud, unyielding attitude, no one would expect her to break down at the sight of a few darkspawn and hides herself whimpering behind Alistair. Quite the opposite, she tells him to STFU a way more often he likes it, and does the job herself.



After what the darkspawn have done to her and Tamlen she is out for bloody revenge on those creatures and won't let herself stopped by her fellow Warden, only because he is the man in the group (who doesn't want to lead anyway) So you expect her to be afraid of Sten? xD She killed an ogre before meeting him. Just saying. Anyway it's not all about strengths -- it's about skill and how perfectly being said in this threat before, before Sten has heaved his 2H sword , she would have gone princess stabbity or slice in that matter on him ;)



Also if he means to throw a tantrum at her about women and not fighting, she would most likely look at him, deadpanned and saying: Sten, there. Entrance of the camp. Use it the other direction. I don't care.



However, since my FDalish is BFF with Sten (they like to rant about humans together xD) I don't see that happen.



Bottom line is it's always up to you how you shape your character in your mind, but it's not unrealistic to play a woman in this game -- quite the opposite.

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Sabriana

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Unless you are Bryce/Fergus/Eleanor Cousland Or Dairren Landra. Or Duncan. Then the FemPC is certainly encouraged to learn fighting and governing.

Fergus "I wish you could come with me...." and "I wouldn't be surprised if he wanted to recruit you." to his sister.

Eleanor: "I was quite the battle-maiden...."

Bryce: "My fierce girl can make up her own mind..."

Dairren: "You are quite superb with your blade....."

Duncan: "Truthfully, you would make an excellent canditate for the Grey Wardens. Some of the finest Grey Wardens were women."

My Cousland DW FemWarrior can hold her own against anyone. She jumped an Ogre for crying out loud, besides, she was the only one left standing and available to finish that beast off.