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[Morgalne]

A few weeks ago I came across this link and thought I would share it with you guys.  Enjoy!

Kaiden -
(Mass Effect)


(Mass Effect 2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkwentrT_R0&feature=related

Ashley -
(Mass Effect)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Mwiqq-Y5r4


It's interesting to me, but what do you guys think?

[FredThePhoenix]

Doesn't bother me at all. Doesn't interest me but the more options would be the better.

It's by looking at these boards that I now know that 'romances' are extremely popular in Mass Effect. This game is almost sims-like sometimes.

Modifié par FredThePhoenix, 26 mars 2010 - 02:28 .

[Time Well Spent]

Thank god, a sane thread. M/M F/F romances would probably be a little late to implement in the series now, what with most characters sexuality established, Bioware said something about it being a guided main character arc, so Shepard is straight, no matter what.

[Morgalne]

Time Well Spent wrote...

Bioware said something about it being a guided main character arc, so Shepard is straight, no matter what.

Where did you hear/read that?  Do you have the link or something?

[CmdrFenix83]

Time Well Spent wrote...

Thank god, a sane thread. M/M F/F romances would probably be a little late to implement in the series now, what with most characters sexuality established, Bioware said something about it being a guided main character arc, so Shepard is straight, no matter what.

I saw the article myself.  It was posted on these forums somewhere.

[Time Well Spent]

Don't remember the exact article myself now, but with a Kaidan M/M romance supposedly vetoed from ME1, it seems highly likely that Mass Effect won't implement same sex romances at this stage in the series.

Modifié par Time Well Spent, 26 mars 2010 - 02:46 .

[Nightwriter]

FredThePhoenix wrote...

Doesn't bother me at all. Doesn't interest me but the more options would be the better.

It's by looking at these boards that I now know that 'romances' are extremely popular in Mass Effect. This game is almost sims-like sometimes.

Yeah, a lot of people have drawn that comparison, either out of irritation - "This is not a sim!" - or the way you did.

But I've never seen it that way. People like Bioware romances because these are actual, individual characters with personalities and strengths and weaknesses that you're getting to know, whose romances build and progress over the course of an epic story. These characters are compelling and real.

Sims are okay, but they don't have that level of depth. In fact, I've rarely seen that level of depth anywhere outisde Bioware games.

[jlb524]

Time Well Spent wrote...

Thank god, a sane thread. M/M F/F romances would probably be a little late to implement in the series now, what with most characters sexuality established, Bioware said something about it being a guided main character arc, so Shepard is straight, no matter what.

FemShep ain't straight yo!!  At least none of mine are....

You can rp a gay male Shepard but you'll just be lonely without one of these mods.

[Morgalne]

[quote]jlb524 wrote...

[quote]Time Well Spent wrote...

You can rp a gay male Shepard but you'll just be lonely
[/quote]

lol >.<  I don't know about you, but I always thought Kaiden was kinda on the gay side.  Too bad Bioware has decided male Sheps gay, him and Kaiden would have been cute.

[enormousmoonboots]

Nightwriter wrote...

Yeah, a lot of people have drawn that comparison, either out of irritation - "This is not a sim!" - or the way you did.

But I've never seen it that way. People like Bioware romances because these are actual, individual characters with personalities and strengths and weaknesses that you're getting to know, whose romances build and progress over the course of an epic story. These characters are compelling and real.

Sims are okay, but they don't have that level of depth. In fact, I've rarely seen that level of depth anywhere outisde Bioware games.

Have you ever actually played a dating sim? I'm not gonna defend them as the pinnacle of gaming or anything, but the one thing they do well--in fact, their entire aim, really--is to portray compelling characters. If you want compelling characters, try giving Persona 3 or 4 a go; they're games with an RPG-style battle system combined with a daily dating-sim sort of aspect. Heck, in Persona 4 you can even be friends with a character of the opposite sex instead of being forced to date them, unlike Mass Effect.

[JaylaClark]

They've never flat out said that Shepard is 'straight' using those words, though... and Kelly gives me pause on that even without attempting to analyze Casey Hudson's malaproping the word 'asexual' when he meant monogendered.  (On Liara, naturally.)  I think that if sexuality is canon, femShep is canon-bisexual.  (OR a major tease with Kelly.)

I personally think that Kaidan and Ash were considered for possible same-gender LI's for at least a large part of the development, the evidence being the voice tracks.  (Even though when I'm on the major Same Sex Romances thread in the non-spoiler section, someone always claims that that's only because Jen and Mark always did each other's lines... which doesn't quite explain Kim and Raphael having unique content on the disc.)  Having said that... they probably wanted to simplify the romance system to not have to grade between the three to decide who shows at the conflict, or else do a three-way conflict.  And it made things simpler, no doubt... but I don't know, I'd like the option to Paragonize Ashley and would do one runthrough with her as a LI just for that.  (Okay, and she's not someone I'd kick out of bed for passing wind, either .  I just like Liara more, personally.  And I'm not saying that because she's standing behind me with a coffee cup... really ...)

[Andrew_Waltfeld]

Well techinally the aim of mass effect is to give an basic story, some paths and you make up the story and how it plays out. Mass effect is more of an interactive movie than an game in my opinon, but it still very fun to play.

[Time Well Spent]

Well, Liara, sort of counts, and I've not seen a femshep/Kelly romance, having not played a femshep, is that possible?

[Gavinthelocust]

Shepard went through the military training surrounded by sweaty muscle bound men, me thinks there could be a chance.

[CmdrFenix83]

JaylaClark wrote...

They've never flat out said that Shepard is 'straight' using those words, though... and Kelly gives me pause on that even without attempting to analyze Casey Hudson's malaproping the word 'asexual' when he meant monogendered.  (On Liara, naturally.)  I think that if sexuality is canon, femShep is canon-bisexual.  (OR a major tease with Kelly.)

I personally think that Kaidan and Ash were considered for possible same-gender LI's for at least a large part of the development, the evidence being the voice tracks.  (Even though when I'm on the major Same Sex Romances thread in the non-spoiler section, someone always claims that that's only because Jen and Mark always did each other's lines... which doesn't quite explain Kim and Raphael having unique content on the disc.)  Having said that... they probably wanted to simplify the romance system to not have to grade between the three to decide who shows at the conflict, or else do a three-way conflict.  And it made things simpler, no doubt... but I don't know, I'd like the option to Paragonize Ashley and would do one runthrough with her as a LI just for that.  (Okay, and she's not someone I'd kick out of bed for passing wind, either .  I just like Liara more, personally.  And I'm not saying that because she's standing behind me with a coffee cup... really ...)

FemShep has more freedom, because FemShep is non-canon herself. 

[Morgalne]

Time Well Spent wrote...

Well, Liara, sort of counts, and I've not seen a femshep/Kelly romance, having not played a femshep, is that possible?

It's not exactly a romance; you don't get the achievement (on 360) for romancing her.  You do take her out to dinner, she feeds your fish, and then after you do the suicide mission she can come up to your room and dance for you pretending your wall is a pole or something... *coughs*  It is possible that she might actually become a real love interest in ME3 though.

[CmdrFenix83]

Gavinthelocust wrote...

Shepard went through the military training surrounded by sweaty muscle bound men, me thinks there could be a chance.

Or he could ignore it, like any straight guy would.  You cannot be 'turned' gay/bi without the interest being there int he first place.  If you aren't turned on by a guy, you aren't turned on by a guy, regardless of your gender.

[lee.siha]

@@@@Morgalne



You let me in a trauma with those videos.

My kaiden is gay hahahahahaha

[FredThePhoenix]

CmdrFenix83 wrote...

FemShep has more freedom, because FemShep is non-canon herself. 

Here comes the rise of the FemShep fanboys and fangirls. *Puts on Anti-Flame Suit*

[CmdrFenix83]

FredThePhoenix wrote...

CmdrFenix83 wrote...

FemShep has more freedom, because FemShep is non-canon herself. 

Here comes the rise of the FemShep fanboys and fangirls. *Puts on Anti-Flame Suit*

Hehe.  I was well aware of the consequences when I made the statement.  Doesn't make it any less true, however.

[Time Well Spent]

I remember when someone said Fem Reven wasn't canon...

[enormousmoonboots]

Stop conflating canon and default. Neither Shepard is canon. Mass Effect has no canon.



/i regret nothing

[CmdrFenix83]

Time Well Spent wrote...

I remember when someone said Fem Reven wasn't canon...

Hehe, except this one is proven that Revan was male.  Considering the descendant of him and Bastila is running around in TOR's timeline. XD

[CmdrFenix83]

enormousmoonboots wrote...

Stop conflating canon and default. Neither Shepard is canon. Mass Effect has no canon.

/i regret nothing

BioWare made Shepard male.  I play both genders.  I don't really know why you care that *your* Shepard isn't canon.  Of *course* your Shepard isn't canon.  Neither is any of the 9 I have currently.

[Morgalne]

lee.siha wrote...

@@@@Morgalne

You let me in a trauma with those videos.
My kaiden is gay hahahahahaha

Do you think he would be a good shopping buddy?