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[PhoenixBlue]

The suit was leaking oxygen, but perhaps the armor's shielding still held up long enough to (sort of) protect Shepard on the way down?

[InvaderErl]

Nerivant wrote...

Noobius_Maximo wrote...

Nerivant wrote...

NitrAce wrote...

That's the beauty of the beginning it shows him dying and then shows him resurrected. Bioware left the rest entirely to your imagination with the exception that they gave a few hints as to what happened. Shepard died, was recovered by Cerberus, Project Lazarus brought him back to life. The rest you decide for yourself how it happened.

Well, we all know, that somewhere in there, he ascended to godhood.

So he met the Biotic God?

He assimilated the Biotic God.

The Biotic God is actually him at a different point of time/level of existence.

Modifié par InvaderErl, 26 mars 2010 - 04:13 .

[GuardianAngel470]

Beerfish wrote...

Perhaps that planet did not have the kind of atmosphere that earth has? I assume that not all planet atmospheres are created equal though I did think the same thing as the original poster 1st time through.

I think they also kind of did a bit of a tribute to 2001 a space odyessy in that scene as Shepard thrashes around grabbing for his air line much like Frank Pool did when HAL killed him.

They density of the atmosphere is irrelevant.  If you are saying the composition of the atmosphere is more prone to ignition then you have a point, it may be.  But if not then terminal velocity is terminal velocity, variable depending on the density of the atmosphere if the speed changes then so does the ignition point.

[Gavinthelocust]

Shepard is Jesus, that is all the explanation needed.

[NitrAce]

wolf99000 wrote...

they did not leave it to your imagination as lemonwizard said you pick up the helmet on the planet you were wearing it as you died so if that made it down your body did

I'm not saying he never made it to the planet surface. I'm just saying it's up to you to just fill in the missing parts and make up why he didn't burn up as you asked. So yes pretty much up to the player to interpret it as they want to.

[Onyx Jaguar]

No Shepard is the smoke monster, and those going with them are trying to escape the Milky Way. The Reapers are there to keep the Smoke Shepard firmly in the milky way to keep them from escaping the Milky Way and spreading their Shepardness in the whole of the universe.

[Xaijin]

Beerfish wrote...

Perhaps that planet did not have the kind of atmosphere that earth has? I assume that not all planet atmospheres are created equal though I did think the same thing as the original poster 1st time through.

I think they also kind of did a bit of a tribute to 2001 a space odyessy in that scene as Shepard thrashes around grabbing for his air line much like Frank Pool did when HAL killed him.

The atmosphere is SUPPOSED to be thinner, but it doesn't seem much that way when you go there. His body still should have been completely trashed on impact.

[Xaijin]

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

Beerfish wrote...

Perhaps that planet did not have the kind of atmosphere that earth has? I assume that not all planet atmospheres are created equal though I did think the same thing as the original poster 1st time through.

I think they also kind of did a bit of a tribute to 2001 a space odyessy in that scene as Shepard thrashes around grabbing for his air line much like Frank Pool did when HAL killed him.

They density of the atmosphere is irrelevant.  If you are saying the composition of the atmosphere is more prone to ignition then you have a point, it may be.  But if not then terminal velocity is terminal velocity, variable depending on the density of the atmosphere if the speed changes then so does the ignition point.

Depends more on gravity, which you can see from the scan.

[Ecael]

Reptilian Rob wrote...

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

He wasn't going fast enough to burn up. The space shuttle is going like 24000 miles per second upon reentry, that's why it has that halo of flames. Shepard was only going as fast as terminal velocity for that planet, which isn't fast enough to burn up. Last I checked, skydivers don't burn up.

Skydivers also don't jump out of space shuttles orbiting a planet.......

The Excelsior Project will continue. (Link)

[InvaderErl]

Xaijin wrote...

Beerfish wrote...

Perhaps that planet did not have the kind of atmosphere that earth has? I assume that not all planet atmospheres are created equal though I did think the same thing as the original poster 1st time through.

I think they also kind of did a bit of a tribute to 2001 a space odyessy in that scene as Shepard thrashes around grabbing for his air line much like Frank Pool did when HAL killed him.

The atmosphere is SUPPOSED to be thinner, but it doesn't seem much that way when you go there. His body still should have been completely trashed on impact.

Unless he didn't land!

OMG!

[Xaijin]

Ecael wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

He wasn't going fast enough to burn up. The space shuttle is going like 24000 miles per second upon reentry, that's why it has that halo of flames. Shepard was only going as fast as terminal velocity for that planet, which isn't fast enough to burn up. Last I checked, skydivers don't burn up.

Skydivers also don't jump out of space shuttles orbiting a planet.......

The Excelsior Project will continue. (Link)

Except he didn't enter from space, and was wearing the appropriate equipment. As we can see from Legion, Shepard's suit had ... issues.

Modifié par Xaijin, 26 mars 2010 - 04:19 .

[Xaijin]

InvaderErl wrote...

Xaijin wrote...

Beerfish wrote...

Perhaps that planet did not have the kind of atmosphere that earth has? I assume that not all planet atmospheres are created equal though I did think the same thing as the original poster 1st time through.

I think they also kind of did a bit of a tribute to 2001 a space odyessy in that scene as Shepard thrashes around grabbing for his air line much like Frank Pool did when HAL killed him.

The atmosphere is SUPPOSED to be thinner, but it doesn't seem much that way when you go there. His body still should have been completely trashed on impact.

Unless he didn't land!

OMG!

That ****** can FLIES! A WITCH! A NEWT!

[Nightwriter]

I think it has something to do with tangelos.

[Xaijin]

That's what nerds do.



Verisimilitude: It makes your game awesome.

[Daurf815]

It's because the island won't let you die, you have work to do

[implodinggoat]

I assume your body ended up in orbit since the the atmospheric friction would surely burn through your armor, while the impact with the surface would shatter your body to pieces or at the very least inflict enough cranial damage that the Lazarus project would be unable to reconstruct Shepard's brain.

The game would indicate otherwise though since the opening cinematic makes it seem as if Shepard's body is drifting towards the planet and would hence be pulled down to the surface by the planet's gravity. Furthermore the Normandy crash site mission makes it seem as if Shepard's body fell from the sky since you can find his N7 helmet on the surface.

I choose to believe that Shepard's body entered orbit simply because I know enough about the laws of physics to understand how little there would be left of Shepard's body after planetary reentry. Reconstructing Shepard's body would be easy enough by means of cloning and cybernetics; but regardless of how advanced the Lazarus project may be if Shepard entered the planet's atmosphere once he hit the ground his brain would almost certainly be liquefied and it would thus be impossible to reconstruct his memory and personality.

Modifié par implodinggoat, 26 mars 2010 - 04:31 .

[CmdrFenix83]

wolf99000 wrote...

My question is if you watch the intro where you die you are heading into the atmosphere of the planet so how did you not burn up I would assume if you fell and went through an atmosphere you there would be nothing left of you

take all the heat shielding on the shuttle

Probably in a manner similar to the shields on Haestrom protecting you.  I mean, look at the state of his body when the cutscene starts for rebuilding him.  It's just a charred hunk of flesh.

[Xaijin]

implodinggoat wrote...

I assume your body ended up in orbit since the the atmospheric friction would surely burn through your armor, while the impact with the surface would shatter your body to pieces or at the very least inflict enough cranial damage that the Lazarus project would be unable to reconstruct Shepard's brain.

The game would indicate otherwise though since the opening cinematic makes it seem as if Shepard's body is drifting towards the planet and would hence be pulled down to the surface by the planet's gravity. Furthermore the Normandy crash site mission makes it seem as if Shepard's body fell from the sky since you can find his N7 helmet on the surface.

I choose to believe that Shepard's body entered orbit simply because I know enough about the laws of physics to understand how little there would be left of Shepard's body after planetary reentry. Reconstructing Shepard's body would be easy enough by means of cloning and cybernetics; but regardless of how advanced the Lazarus project may be if Shepard entered the planet's atmosphere his brain would almost certainly be liquefied and it would thus be impossible to reconstruct his memory and personality.

Bingo.

[GuardianAngel470]

Xaijin wrote...

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

Beerfish wrote...

Perhaps that planet did not have the kind of atmosphere that earth has? I assume that not all planet atmospheres are created equal though I did think the same thing as the original poster 1st time through.

I think they also kind of did a bit of a tribute to 2001 a space odyessy in that scene as Shepard thrashes around grabbing for his air line much like Frank Pool did when HAL killed him.

They density of the atmosphere is irrelevant.  If you are saying the composition of the atmosphere is more prone to ignition then you have a point, it may be.  But if not then terminal velocity is terminal velocity, variable depending on the density of the atmosphere if the speed changes then so does the ignition point.

Depends more on gravity, which you can see from the scan.

It's a give and take relationship.  Gravity wants to keep accelerating an object but the density of the air determines how fast an object can move.  I guess I left the gravity part unsaid when I shouldn't have.